Quranic moral lesson

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   Eng.Mposted 13 years ago

   Quran says
   you may marry 2 , 3 or 4 wives    but
   *you mustn't see alot of other women
   *you may not do it if you can't treat them equally and it points that you wont be able to treat them the same
   
   God says:(Give unto orphans their wealth. Exchange not the good for the bad (in your management thereof) nor absorb their wealth into your own wealth. Lo! that would be a great sin. (2) And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice. (3) ) )
   and said in the same Sura : (Ye will not be able to deal equally between (your) wives, however much ye wish (to do so). But turn not altogether away (from one), leaving her as in suspense. If ye do good and keep from evil, lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.   : (129) )
   
   as a matter of discussion , what do you understand ?
   
   Reference
   Quran Muhammed Pickthal translation

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      sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      From the Bible I understand the saying, "you cannot serve two masters as you will betray the other." something like that.  Obviously not a precise quote off the top of my head. 
      
      As I recall, again off the top of my head from the Qua'ran, that Allah had established the right way to deal in a family like this, that portions of the mans wealth goes to each of the children and to his wife. 
      
      From what you wrote up above, I think it says, that the obvious like written in scripture, that if a man fails to give the enough attention to his wife, she will wander and to her she has committed a sin (adultry I suppose) as it was also written in scripture that adultry is committed when in your eyes or thoughts you have had thoughts of other men whether you have acted on the thoughts or not, it makes no difference. 
      
      I think also from what you wrote, that it is pretty natural for a man to seek many lovers but it is almost criminal to take many wives because a woman (from my perspective anyways) seeks just one man, so then if the one she wants, wants to have another than she is not being fullfilled and caused to sin. 
      
      And then back to the Bible, it says, for the ones who caused another to stray, then the sin shall be upon you. 
      
      As for the part about "absorbing wealth into your own wealth", that to marry for money is a crime to your heart as we know nowadays that people should marry for love regardless of their material status, and thus people who marry for love stay together as cleche' as it is today, "for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, till death do we part."- the traditional value of the marriage has been disasembled and doesn't mean much today.

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         BDazzlerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Pretty good from the top of your head Sandy!
         
         "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. - Matthew 6:24
         
         "But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. " - Matthew 18:6

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            sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            LOL, thanks BDaz, I was hoping you come with the scripture!  Though I like my version of Mathew 18:6 better. 

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               BDazzlerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               You can put it in your re-write

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         Eng.Mposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Islam has handed the responsibility of the family to the husband as a ship can't run with two leaders equal in authorities   but
         the man should be judgable , biased and take his wife's opinion seriously
         
         a man can't serve two masters is also mentioned in Quran ( I'll quote if you want)
         
         thanx Sandra for sharing and all the best luck

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            sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            awe!  The Bible also mentions this.  Says something like, "the women is the rock of the family".  Says that the husband is the head of the house hold as God is the head of man, but that his wife is the keeper of the home and thus you must listen to her because without her your family falls apart. 
            
            Good to hear from you and thanks for commenting back.  Yours is much simpler than mine. 

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               BDazzlerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               That's a fair synopsis of Proverbs 31.

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                  sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Should I add that too, to the re-write? lol

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                     BDazzlerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I need to hook you up with a buddy of mine - he's doing his own version too ... for example, he's going to translate the passage ...
                     
                     "Be still and know that I am God"
                     
                     to
                     
                     "Shut the F* up and just listen!"

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                        sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        ROTFLAO!!!! 

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               Eng.Mposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               glad Sandra
               catch ya later

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      Nickny79posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for sharing this from your Holy Book--there are many here who can profit by hearing something new, even if they may disagree.
      
      Perhaps you can tell us something about the Sufi's and the mystical traditional of Islam, which is a fascinating topic for many in the West.
      
      Many of your readers are ignorant of the fact that a good portion of Classical Greek Literature was preserved by Islamic scholars--one notably example is the remaining corpus of Aristotle's work.  This is something I mention in passing in my recent hub about Aristotle's Metaphysics.  Perhaps you have something to share on this topic as well.

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         Sufidreamerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Good call, Nick - Islamic history is a passion of mine (hence the name).
         
         I second the motion!

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         Eng.Mposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You got that
         
         I 'll present my understanding in a thread
         
         thanx
         
         
         
         I don't know , sorry

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      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This is just too confusing for me;)
      GIRLS
      
      Why in the world did you make girls?
      
      Some so beautiful my head I have to twirl.
      
      Does she know in me she creates a sensation?
      
      I have started thinking of the word creation.
      
      So many around so gorgeous,
      
      My mind seems frivolous.
      
      How the hell am I supposed to just stay with one?
      
      I want all the pretty ones as they come,
      
      Then these things I want none.
      
      I know they are all but your form,
      
      The rose comes with the thorn.
      
      Show me the path I pray to you.

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         goldentoadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         There's a strip club I can take you.

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            mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Why is that the only place you meet woman ? Dont have then in India

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               goldentoadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               No, I'm kidding man, I'm retired from the strips clubs, and I wouldn't take you to one either, you're a good guy and I wouldn't want to ruin you.

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                  mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Was in the Merchant Navy for 8 years ,have travelled all over -been to some joints

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                     goldentoadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Ever been to Tijuana Mexico?

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                        mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        No but Chile,Brazil and Venezuela in South America

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                           goldentoadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Oh man, you're an international playa!! Bet you have some good stories to tell!

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                              mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              The navy is an adventurous life.

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                                 goldentoadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 Except when after a couple of weeks at sea, the sailor next to you starts lookin' at you in a different way, if you know what I mean.

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                                    mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    hahhah  the longest voyage i did wad 14 days from South Africa to South America .Very often its 2 to 3 days sail days. Its not like that

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                                       goldentoadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       That's good then. I would skip out on those long voyages too.

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                                          mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          No choice.

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            sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            OMG!  ROTFLMAO!!!
            
            It's a great poem Mo, you are very much a man. 

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               mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               thank you very much.

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                  goldentoadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  You're too smooth, my man! I need to get me some poetry that works, all I know is dirty rap songs

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                     mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I was just being honest and It was appreciated by an honest person

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                        goldentoadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        I will definitely agree with you on that.

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                           mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           

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   Make Moneyposted 13 years ago

   Two men from a break away Mormon sect in British Columbia, Canada have been charged with polygamy.  One has been reported to have fathered about 80 children by 26 wives, some as young as 15 when he allegedly married them.
   http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columb … kmore.html

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      sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ewww, not even gonna go there!  Some people shouldn't even father one let alone 80....80! OMG!!!!  Gross, with 80 children and 26 wives, I am sure has no time to read scripture.  *shuttering*.

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         Eng.Mposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         he had no time for nothing

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            Make Moneyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah like a rabbit.

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               Eng.Mposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               it's nice to be a rabbit sometime but not all of it

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                  Eng.Mposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Eng.M wrote:

                  
                  it's nice to be a rabbit sometime but not all the time

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      Eng.Mposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      isn't torrible ?

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   knolyourselfposted 13 years ago

   Ya ever read the Mark Twain account of Mormons in his first book
   'Roughing It'? Little bit funny.

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   rinasings2uposted 13 years ago

   respect all religions ... i think is the basis of every religion

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   Mezoposted 13 years ago

   i have nothing much to say after this...thnx for the topic and to sandra for the comments...people tend to look at muslim women as oppressed ....but if some muslim women are obressed it's the fault of men, the fault of the society...not the fault of religion and not by any means you have the autority to humiliate a human in the name of any religion..
   
   having the man as a leader because he's the one capable of "hard" work...the one who is obligated to do whatever he can to feed and raise his children and keep his wife safe and satisfied (wether she works or not, he's responsible for her!)
   
   Women are the ones who raise men...without women there's no family...
   sounds strange ?
   
   c ya

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      Eng.Mposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Can't say more
      
      thanx MeZo

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