Is conflict a necessary evil?

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   Jefsaidposted 13 years ago

   I am all for World peace and everyone living harmoniously with the World around us.  However, since the beginning of history there has always been conflict in one way or another which makes me feel that disharmony is a necessary evil.  Is this the case or is conflict caused by humans?

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      dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Human nature, survival of the strongest, and the looser remembers the loss and organizes to get even.
      
      I think it is embeded in the Human psyche. So probly so, it does seem a necessary evil. Orf at least we make it true.

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         Jefsaidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Do we not have the capacity to change for the better?

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            Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Sure, eliminate the distortion and misinformation. When that's gone, then there is only truth left.

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            dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I hope so Jef, i would like to see this come true; and we all change

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      AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes it is.   
      
      I used to do a meditative moving type of yoga where after 40 minutes to an hour everything was all smoothed out.  No pain, no emotion, no nothing, just simple being.  I found it to be an intolerably uncomfortable state.  I could stand it for only a few minutes and I'd have to go put on some music or take a walk or visit with someone.  Samadhi isn't all it's cracked up to be.
      
      On the other hand a really good drama that brings about an emotional catharsis is quite wonderful.

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         Jefsaidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         AnnCee I get the impression that you are a high energy person that would find staying still a constraint.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   Conflict is not necessarily evil.
   
   @Dutchman- please try to refrain from claiming that Human Nature and the Survival of the Fittest, as being intertwined. They are not.
   
   Human nature has nothing to do with the survival of the fittest, because consciousness and conscience allows people to not act like animals. Even with that said- many people continue to live like animals and have animal mentality, but that's only because there happens to be too much misinformation and distortion, so others can continually do what they please, while others have no clue what happened.

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      Jefsaidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well while religion has clear positives, I do think it is the major cause of conflict as large masses of people compete to defend or impose their indoctrinated ideologies.

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      dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Cag, they are most certinly intertwined.
      
      Survival of the fittest is a Human trait, and we have in the past and still do demonstrait this daily.
      
      everything is a competition, our speech, or push to get or aquire things, the protection of ourselves over others, we most certinly do. I really disagree here 
      
      we all need mirrors, we do not have to be agressive, we choose it as a part of us. We can not avoid it. Never have.
      
      people act in animal behavior because they can, they have minds and can decifer information and anyone living past 20 can certinly discern some things above basic emotions, but we revert back.
      
      example corrner some on with gossip, and watch folks gather like a pack to support you if that person shows the slightest weekness! Weither it is true or not and they know the truth.
      
      Our Kids face it every day, and we do to on the Job and in social settings. We have animal tendency, naturaly.  We gravatate toward it, we hunt gather and protect what we find.
      
      You can dress it up, but it is basic behavior inside the person.
      
      I have seen to much of it now to say otherwise. 

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         Jefsaidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Since I left school some ??? years ago, I have rarely got into any conflict.  To me it feels as though harmony is completely achievable.

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   cobbjoe1posted 13 years ago

   It is a necessity, as long as the devil goes around the earth like a roaring lion.
   He and his demon angels put bad thoughts in evil minds first. This leads to
   evil actions. We make choices: good or evil. We can choose God's good or the devil's evil. I encourage the world to choose good. Only God can bring true peace.

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      Jefsaidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I am completely non-religious and therefore not burdened with god and the devil.  I simply see life as the truth and if we respect it and each other then there is no need for conflict.

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      dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Cob, If I may add to this:
      
      evil does not make you kill, that is an excuse. Man makes the decision, without God guidance. Thats the original definition of Sin- to act without God, or a God-set mind.
      
      The devil is a made up sham for fear, man fails himself, by his own decisionmaking and part of that decision is basic human instinct.
      
      Thats where mankind fails . We have to accept ourselves as we truly act, then we can cure ourselves and the rest of this mess we all are creating.
      
      We need to do it fast before no one is left.

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   dutchman1951posted 13 years ago

   Cag, let me say this a little different so you can see me, my reasoning here;
   
   I have traveled extensively the last 20 years for the World Bank, and I honestly believe from what I have seen that The US because of its Business system and the way it is allowed to work (Right or wrong in folks eyes) has provided us a secure country and we have been able to relax and be more comfortable, and thus we can reason, we have time to.
   
   When you have a solid roof over your head and survival is not formost then you have time to reason, so yes, you are correct here. But..?
   
   The rest of the world is not like us. And many, or most places survival daily is a necessity. If you have ever been in that situation you would really see the animal instincts come out. and its is awakening to know that we in the US have those same Human traits. so I have to respectfully disagree. Those instincts are inherant in all of us.
   
   Look at a house pet...after so many years they forget how to survive outside. The instincts are there but never used. But if you ever turn them loose, they re-develop because they are in-bred. Humans are the same.
   
   Thats what I mean, if it even makes sense..

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      Jefsaidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      dutchman1951 you make a good point here.  With the US and the UK where I live aggressively protecting our pampered existence others are forced to suffer.  Surely the case is for a more even distribution of wealth and resources to ensure that everyone enjoys a decent existence.  Of course, to achieve this would mean a reduction to our own standards of living.

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