I need more options for organizing my Hubs by groups and sites

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  1. Doc Snow profile image87
    Doc Snowposted 7 years ago

    With over 100 Hubs published, I need organization.

    First, the loss of the 'group' feature was a real problem in terms of keeping track of my Hubs, and I regret it.  It used to be my main organizational tool, as it essentially let me search my catalog in a thematic way.  Something of the sort would be an extremely helpful  future addition.  Can the HubPowers consider this?  Alternatively, some sort of actual 'search' feature would be helpful in attempting to access particular Hubs for updating, editing, or reference.

    Second, I'd like to have some input into the sorting of some Hubs onto niche sites.  So far, I'm not crazy about the results, in that some Hubs which belong together have been separated.  The most gratuitous example is my book reviews.  So far, two have been moved onto Letterpile, which seems appropriate:

    <snipped>Mark-Lynass-Six-Degrees-A-Summary-Review
    <snipped>Climate-Wars-A-Review

    However, that leaves many other 'summary reviews' which logically belong there.  I suspect that eventually, they will tend to gravitate there as all Hubs are reviewed/edited.  But how long will it take? In the case of the "Six Degrees" Hub, there are six auxiliary Hubs which are now 'marooned' on Hubpages, and I suspect it that it will be a long time before that changes, as none of them are high traffic (nor are intended/expected to be).  Hopefully the links all still work…

    Also, some Hubs would be very appropriate on some niche sites, and might do better there.  For instance, I have a appreciation of the Doors "Strange Days" album:

    <snipped>Strange-Days-Again-Remembrance-And-The-Doors-Sophomore-Album

    I suspect it would get a bit more love on Spinditty than languishing where it is on HP, so I'd love to help speed up the relocation process.

    Which leads me to a suggestion:  how about utilizing the power of crowdsourcing to accelerate the realignment of our articles?  It shouldn't be crazy hard:  just make available a form for author nominations for such things.  Yes, someone--algorithm or human or both--has to process that.  But it would speed up the realignment enormously if that could be implemented, and would also increase author involvement and engagement across our platforms.

    How 'bout it, HubPowers?

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image85
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      What you're not getting is that the team makes the decisions here, not the writers.  Sometimes they do listen, but in the end, it's their ball game.

      I, too, hated it when the groups left, but that was a decision the team felt to be necessary for business reasons, and it won't be coming back.

      If this helps, I save every article on my word processor.  I group them into categories there so I can find them easily.  I also keep a spreadsheet of grouped article titles.  This makes it very easy for me to find the info I need.

      As for the niche sites, the titles are set and it is up to the team to choose the hubs they wish to place and where they wish to place them.  So far, most of them have done well.  I'm sure if the team sees problems, they'll make updates.

      Remember that HP is a business.  They are the people who have made the investment in it, not us.  We are the people who are the cogs that make the wheel turn.  Grouping together to try to push the team into making decisions they don't think are wise would be a terrible mistake.

      1. Doc Snow profile image87
        Doc Snowposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Oh, I definitely get that HP make the calls.  Hence my appeal to 'em.

      2. Doc Snow profile image87
        Doc Snowposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I'm not trying to create a 'them against us' scenario here; not sure where you got that idea.

        Just making a suggestion--well, several suggestions.  Call me naive, but I think in most cases people are willing to consider ideas, and that even can include 'power structures.'

        1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image85
          TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          The HP team definitely takes suggestions into account, but in the end, they have to choose what is best to do to keep the site up and running.  Some of the things you suggested have already been decided upon, so what is the point of bringing them up again!  It's not "them vs. us", but it IS a matter of being realistic about the situation.  Making suggestions about issues that are already done and gone is a waste of time and will not resolve any related issues.

    2. NateB11 profile image89
      NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      In terms of organizing Hubs into groups, you might want to consider a Hub by paradigmsearch called "How to Make or Create an Online Bookmarks Web Page or Website - Organizing Your Links". I've never used his suggestion myself but it might be an option for organizing Hubs.

  2. Marisa Wright profile image83
    Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago

    The bottom line is that HubPages has created the niche sites in an attempt to please Google, so the main criteria they're using to choose Hubs is, obviously, the ones that please Google (i.e. the ones that are getting the most Google traffic).   Once they've selected those, they look at the site and pick some less-successful Hubs to round out categories that are a bit thin.

    They are not interested in our opinion of our own Hubs - after all, writers are notorious for being the worst judges of their own work. They're also not interested in asking Hubbers to nominate each others' work - because we all know there would be an element of friendship and favouritism at work (you nominate my Hub and I'll nominate yours).  That would only waste the staff's time.  So I think you just have to be patient and see how it pans out.

    If your Hubs are successful enough to get transferred to the niche hubs then you won't need Groups to organise them.

    1. Doc Snow profile image87
      Doc Snowposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, I'll still need the organizational help--particularly since, Fate willing, the Hub count will keep growing.  There just aren't enough niche sites, compared to Hubs.

  3. paperfacets profile image86
    paperfacetsposted 7 years ago

    My organization is clicking the Forever count in My Account. The Hubs that have the low visits are the ones I am improving, deleting or moving.

    I have one of three places I can move a good Hub to.

    On the profile Page just under the 'In the Spotlight' is SHOW All. Click the drag down. It has all the Hubs organized in the categories you have put them in.

    1. Doc Snow profile image87
      Doc Snowposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Good tip!

 
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