Judge or Not To Be Judged

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   mdawson17posted 14 years ago

   This thread is a three question thread; the only request I have is be totally honest express your views bold and truthfully! If you are one that may get your feeling hurt please do not participate!
   
   On hub pages (especially in the religious forum); I see many hubers get their feelings hurt because they feel they have been judged because of their belief's!
   
   Often times I the act of judgment is casted on individuals that are less than;
   
   I am curious what my fellow hubers think about the act of judgment?
   
   Do we as a human race have the right to judge one another based on their belief system?
   
   When I see one being judged I also see ones self esteem and dignity brought down;
   
   Do you think their should be rules applied when casting your opinions and a person?

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Anyone that has a belief and gets their feelings hurt shouldn't have that belief in the first place.

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         mdawson17posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I agree if you have a belief you should be willing to stand up boldly!

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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      rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      There are: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. The Golden Rule
      
      If you are a Christian you are to allow God to handle judgement of an individual.  If it is of a detrimental nature then you should guard yourself from the harm physically and spiritually as per the Bible.

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   My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

   The only pure judge is that of love.
   To judge from a place of love, humility and compassion is pure.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Love is sometimes corruptive to proper judgement. Emotions is not always good to have in judgement.

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      mdawson17posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well said

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      james hoyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      True love is to love and expect nothing in return. To beleave is just that"BELEAVE", and judge not that you may be judged. A person who truly beleaves, should not let any one hurt their feelings, because you are what you are. Be prould of your self, and do nothing that you will have to say you will be sorry for. If by change you do slip, just say i am sorry and move on.

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   Scott.Lifeposted 14 years ago

   I leave the judging to much more interested people, do your thing and let me do mine. In the meantime....

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      dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "What Scott Just said!" Bravo Sir
      
      Jon

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   My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

   Real love cannot be corrupted or can it be influenced by emotions as real love is not subject.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You are wrong as usual.

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   My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

   Then you have not known real love yet.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Wrong again. More absolute assumptions.

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   My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

   I speak from experience.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You speak in absolutes. Your experience is not all experience.

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   My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

   Love needs no defense.
   It is okay with your opinion.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe you would sound like a real prophet if you were correct more often.

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   My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

   That is what love does, it stands and cannot be moved.

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      mdawson17posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Shiyloh very well put

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   theageofcakeposted 14 years ago

   I think it is okay to judge another person based on their belief system, because that system tends to expose essential aspects of their being.
   
   For example, if someone justifies the subordination of women through their faith, I will think less of them.  Denying human rights is not acceptable, regardless of tradition.  Just because something is standard practice doesn't mean we shouldn't challenge it.
   
   Or let's say someone believes in Creationism, in spite of mounting physical evidence to the contrary.  If somebody accepts this theory as true, with their "faith" as sole evidence, this suggests a problematic deficiency in their thought processes. 
   
   If someone can so readily turn a blind eye to tangible evidence, that means they are turning their mind off to something they would rather not believe because it compromises their faith.  I personally don't see the value in baseless judgment.

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      atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I believe the mounting evidence supports my belief in a creator. That is my conclusion from the facts. To say there is a "problem" with my thought process because my conclusion differs from your own is irresponsible for you to say.
      
      
      
      
      
      And there you are being hypocritical. You yourself are turning a blind eye to the possibility God does exist. You are turning your mind off someone you would rather not believe in because it would compromise your lifestyle. In which you do not want to be held accountable nor responsible to Him.
      The "value" you put on God is baseless you say, yet you have no knowledge as to Who or What HE is to make that call in judgement yourself.
      
      You may not put much value in belief in God or in God Himself, but He still loves you.
      That is the extent of Gods love. No matter how much you argue His existence with anyone, how much you defy Him and or deny Him, He loves you. His love in infinite as He is infinite.
      
      How much "value" do you or would you put on love?

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         marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, preach for your government God. Thats the only reason people don't believe your divine book, so their not held accountable.
         
         Your follower mind has limited answers.

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            atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            And the response was not given to you, it was given to theageofcake.
            
            I find it rather funny you do not see the follower in yourself LOL

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               marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Ah let me guess, you will now say that I am a follower of unbelievers.
               
               Once again, you are wrong again. See how your thoughts work? Obviously not. Too bad that I do. I have read them already in your book of belief.

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                  atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  
                  Yes I see, all knowing and powerful one who sees how my thoughts work
                  LOL
                  satan knows the Bible as well, your reading it does not impress me, sorry. lol

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                     marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Ah, but you didn't say I was wrong on your thought process of calling me a follower.
                     
                     Thats right, do what you are trained, blame it on satan. Great faith. Faith is ignorance, ignorance is bliss.
                     
                     
                     It doesn't take a genius to understand your faith dependent mind.

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                     sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I agree with you on alot but sometimes I think you push the envelope alittle too hard. I'm offering an observation not a judgement, it almost sounds as if you think you're better than the person you might save. Please don't take offense. God Bless You.

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         theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         What exactly are the "facts" you speak of?
         
         I should be more specific about my Creationism comment.  There are several different theories to support this notion of God as creator, some, perhaps, more feasible than others.  Feasible mind you, not factual.
         
         Old earth creationism, for example, does not refute geologic evidence the same way Young Earth creationism does.  I am a strong believer in formulating ideas using observable evidence - but some creationist "thinkers" simply ignore the plausible theories that researchers, who have provided evidence, have postulated over the years.  That, to me, suggests a frustrating and baseless stubbornness on the creationist's part.
         
         
         
         
         
         You're right, in the event that God may exist - which, lucky for you, is not disprovable - I do have no knowledge of who or what he is.  But neither do you.  So we're on even ground.  Although I might have the upper hand because I don't spend my life in his servitude and he still "loves me."  I can live my life freely and if some compassionate God is watching he can at least take comfort in my pursuit of knowledge and human progress.  Even if I feel I don't need him, if he's there, he knows that I did all along, because without him I wouldn't have existed, right?  Not to mention, if God were all knowing, he must have foreseen a time in which humankind no longer needed him. 
         
         Also, I don't believe "turning a blind eye to the possibility of God" is what I am doing.  God could very well exist, I acknowledge this, but whose to say religious texts take us any closer to what he is?  I don't want to make assumptions, but the God you are devoted to is the Biblical God, correct?  There is no irrefutable evidence that the Bible is anything but a collection of highly imaginative stories.  I can value the Bible as a great work of fiction, not an historical text, nor the direct word of god.

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    sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

    "Give Rome what is Romes," You must obey mans laws as well as Gods. Thats not a gudgement it's an understanding of the law. We are human and should try to be fair but we won't allways thats what makes us human.

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    My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

    To judge should be to correct.
    To consider yourself while you are judging is wise and will cause you to speak kindly.

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    Paradise7posted 14 years ago

    No, I don't think we have any right to judge other people or their beliefs.  I leave that judgement factor to people whose job it it--those trained in law who are sitting on a bench, and paid for it.
    
    When someone states their opinions, it seems wise to me to have some respect for those opinions (religious, political, whatever opinions) in your responses, even if you have a different or opposite opinion.  I've always found that a more moderate and respectful manner in stating my (sometimes opposing) views often leads to an interesting discussion rather than hurt feelings and harsh words in debate.
    
    Part of this hub pages is reaching out to others, communicating with others, in all parts of the world.  Bashing someone for their beliefs or opinions closes rather than opens the door to communication, and provokes a heated or sometimes even insulting response.

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    hinckles komaposted 14 years ago

    The best judge of life is not to judge yourself, therefore not to judge others.  Learning why, how, bad, good, love, hate, for our self's by examples opens up other doors in our life. Respect and open mind. all ways ready to learn more and more about life. It feels better than following a group of religious expectations with limits on my life.  Listening to others even the religious makes me a feel better because i live to learn not to belong and attach.  Love all koma.

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    My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

    The one who is spiritual judges rightly all things and yet they are judged by nobody.

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    Sybil Marieposted 14 years ago

    Actually I think Jesus had a pretty good answer to this judgement thing ( Though as a rule I don't really like using quotes). When the woman was being stoned he said to the crowd " He who is without sin(missed the mark) let him cast the first stone. Since I definitely do not fit that criteria I need to stear of judging someone else. Besides it seem like when I am pointing fingers at someone else's belief I am really trying to pull that persons belief down so I can feel better about myself.
    Someone once gave me a little stone with this written on it and I carried it around in my pocket.If I found myself getting judgemental or critical of someone else I would feel that little stone and have to look at my motives.

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       Paradise7posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Ah, even better said.  Not that the people going back and forth are going to hear it.

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    Sybil Marieposted 14 years ago

    

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    Daniel Carterposted 14 years ago

    Assessing is too often confused as judging.
    
    Assessing means evaluate or estimate ability or quality of; looking at the clues and facts to be informed and educated enough to avoid pitfalls and mistakes.
    
    Judgment, in terms of religious connotation is about sentencing for sin, or rewarding for righteousness.
    
    Since none of us are very well qualified to assume the role of God, it may be better to stick with facts and make assessments.
    
    My thoughts, anyway.

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       theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I agree, but also can't pass on a potential argument.

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