Are there other universes?

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   qwarkposted 14 years ago

   Considering that "our" universe is surrounded by limitless space, have you considered the possibility that Our "big bang" might be just 1 of countless others beyond our awareness?

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      IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I hope so qwark, for the good of the human race, I surely hope so.  Another great subject matter by the way!

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      yes, i have, and i think that could be a possibility. energy and matter can 'materialize' out of nowhere, which is what caused the Big Bang, so why wouldn't it happen again, in another place?

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         qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Cosette:
         I agree.
         Have you thought of that possibility before?

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            cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            you can't help but think about things like this when you're stargazing. i have a telescope and binoculars

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      nikki1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      perhaps .. we may not be the species, possibly out there..

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         qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Nikki:
         Life can exist in so many forms. Evolution will be at work on any planet that can nurture life. the possiblity exists taht other life could resemble us...but most likely that would be improbable..:-)

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   goldenpathposted 14 years ago

   I completely agree.  I understand your feelings on matters of faith but I will submit this information of opinion from me.  Creation and, yes, even the chain of gods and deity never end.  The journey of this Earth is but one of a countless repeated scenarios necessary for progression.  Sure, the big bang is but one of a countless number of creational starts.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Goldenpath:
      Thanks.
      Are you speaking from a religious point of view?...possibly as a "creationist?"

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         goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Not really.  Just a point of view.  I see it as going along with your statement.  I view no limits to space or even the possibilities of creation that take place in it.  Likewise, I believe in intelligent design and the endless chain of that authority, power and knowledge.

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            qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Topic:
            Thanks:
            I'm a very curious guy.....lol and I dont mean i'm strange...:-)
            I love input to consider.:-)

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            qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Goldenpath:
            Can you explain why you believe in intelligent design.
            If you try, pls try to use logic (proofs by reasoning) to explain rather than just opinion or guess...ok?
            Thanks

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               goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I doubt it would satisfy as logic is a point of view. 
               
               One little switch in one little muscle making gene is what enables the human brain to continue expanding and learning.  That same muscle gene is also what creates a massive muscle on the cranium of a primate thus fusing the cranium together by the time it is three or four years of age preventing development.  Given the potential in the difference in each of the brains it MUST be more than just  "happenstance" that dictates the formation of the human body to fill the measure of it's spirit.  It cannot be dependent on a simple gene that enables man to produce great works of art.  It cannot be dependent on a simple gene that enables man to invoke justice on behalf of the innocent.  How meaningless and minute our existence would be if it really was only dependent on our genes to define who we are.
               
               On the contrary.  I believe it is the Intelligent Design behind the genes and switches that invokes all things in motion and operates all creation on a level that we cannot possibly fathom to understand.

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                  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Goldenpath:
                  Logic is a point of view?
                  Logic is a science that deals with the rules and tests of sound thinking and proofs by reasoning.
                  You provided me with an opinion not based on logic.
                  I can, then, only consider that your reason is simply conjecture with no foundation in fact or reality, right?
                  If you say you "believe" in "intelligent design," that means to me that you accept that concept to be true. True? Factual?....and you can offer no logical foundation for that "belief?"
                  That is confusing.

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                     goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Again, that would only be confusing to those who wish not to hear the foundation itself.  I have my facts, my proofs and my grounded concepts.  However, as explained a thousand times before these truths I have learned through the trial and error of my faith.  This is something you don't like to hear and I understand that.  It is the test of faith and the doctrines of that faith that I have come to understand the groundword and foundation of those doctrines.  No, I cannot prove faith or the fruits of that faith to you or anyone else.  That is something that only the self can learn. 
                     
                     Through the effort of working my beliefs and faith into something actionable I have been given further knowledge of the possibility of man and it's purpose, but only so far as I am ready to receive as of yet.
                     
                     Not all things can, should or even ought to be explained through "logic" and mathematics.  Most things in life that matter most are learned within and in a language unique to each of our spirits.  It is the language of experience and time.

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                        qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Goldenpath:
                        Respectfully, What you offer is trite.
                        I cannot consider you to be a credible "hubber" ref the subject if you cannot or are unable to explain it.
                        But ty for trying..:-)

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   No.
   It's not like I would hear anyone of them. So why would I care ?

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      +1

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         

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   qwarkposted 14 years ago

   I'm gonna watch MMA fights....BBL

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   Rochelle Frankposted 14 years ago

   Possibly, but even our own universe is beyond human comprehension, so as Tantrum says....
   
   Our universe may be just part of a molecule that comprises the material of a leg on a piece of furniture in  the living room of someone in a big world of a larger planet in a larger solar system in a larger universe.
   
   The reverse may also be true-- so if you visit me-- treat my furniture with respect.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Rochelle:
      Thanks.
      I asked that kind of question earlier to inspire "hubbing" about the theory of everything...didnt get much to consider...check my question: Where is our universe.

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         Rochelle Frankposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I thought about this so long ago that I have stopped thinking about it much. It is outside of my sphere of influence., as are almost all things.

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            qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Rochelle:
            Don't feel like the lone ranger. It is "outside" everyones "sphere-of-influence."  :-)

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      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      the best answer!

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   habeeposted 14 years ago

   I read that many scientists now believe there are different dimensions. I've always wondered about that, too.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Habee:
      True, and the laws of physics proves that to be true on paper. Research the "super String Theory."

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   Are there other Universes?
   
   Yes, nothing happens just once.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Cagsil:
      I have to agree.
      The distance across just our milky way galaxy is about 100 k light years...thats 100k times 60 trillion earth miles and there are billions of galaxies in just our universe! Beyond that, I visualise the probability of countless other big bangs taking place at this very moment.

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   How far would it be for you to see that the Human race located in other Universes?

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   Probably asking these same questions?

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      cagsil:
      In whatever form they may exist..:-)

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well, I was talking about Humanoid, like Homosapiens, conscious like we are, you know, the exact same kind of people, but not the exact people.
         
         I hope not to confuse.

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    quicksandposted 14 years ago

    I remember a theory that space is actually not limitless. When the expansion caused by the big bang reaches the borders which mark the limitations, then and only then does the big collapse commence.
    
    This theory was backed by a lot of credible evidence. I do not remember much of it. At that time I did not care at all. Now I do!

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       qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hi
       Quick
       Yes, it has been studied and at one time is was called "the bubble universe theory." it would have been compared to shaking a bottle of pop that had no
       
       activity in it but once invigorated...bubbles are produced....this could be happening in space beyond our awareness

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    saltposted 14 years ago

    i hope so!!

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    jfreemonposted 14 years ago

    This is a tough one. "Boundless" energy in itself is a misnomer because infinity is defined only as a value without a limit. It's also taken as the metaphorical cap to everything in the universe.
    
    That doesn't stop it from being true, it just makes things extremely tricky. There is some limit to energy and some limit to matter in the universe, because then one could not be conserved when it is changed into the other.
    
    How does this relate to multiple universes? Not very well aside from the fact that there are a limited number of multiple universes. Some exist as matter and some as energy and from that, take what you will.

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       qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Jfreemon:
       pls expand on this: "...there are a limited number of multiple universes. Some exist as matter and some as energy and from that,..."
       Ty.

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          jfreemonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I'm sorry, I got a little wrapped up in thought back there.
          
          What I meant is that there are a limited number of universes. There are those which exist as energy, or in this case, potential energy, which exist only as a possibility based upon the past or present. There are also materialized universes which physically exist.
          
          For example, the one we live in is material. If you can conceive another universe, that is potential.
          
          Of course, this example relies purely on your own perspective and therefore anything you image would be considered potential at this point.
          
          (Even the proven existence of parallel universes could be considered mere potential in this thought.. But let's just assume that violates Occam's Razor.)

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             qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             JFreemon:
             Been a long time since I have heard 'occam' razor" used in a chat...lol
             "it is vain to do with more what can be done with less." I can remember this from my college days.
             of course with nothing known about that which happens beyond our universe..."occam's Razor" is appropos.
             It's still an interesting subject and the essence of being human is being curious.
             I love to think of things outside the "box." 
             thanks...:-)

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    qwarkposted 14 years ago

    Ok...time to watch the fights...bbl

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