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Government controlling my life via SSDI

  1. mitchman79k profile image61
    mitchman79kposted 4 years ago via iphone

    Apparently, As an SSDI recipient , I'm not allowed to start a business! But it's ok if existing business's don't hire me even when they give other people the job even after they got in fight's with co-workers! WTF!!!

    1. paradigmsearch profile image87
      paradigmsearchposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      It appears that someone gave you false information. From what I saw on this page, SS would love for you to start a business and become independent. smile

      http://www.iidc.indiana.edu/styles/iidc … _Sheet.pdf

      If SSDI is run differently in each state, and it very well could be, and your state is obstructing you in this regard, I'd find the appropriate fed website and tell them all about it.

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        Motown2Chitownposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I'm with you, PS.  Collecting SSDI does mean that you are unable to find substantial gainful employment - the kind that you are both 'capable' of and 'qualified' for.  When you are no longer capable of doing the type of work for which you are qualified because of a physical or mental disability, SSDI is approved.  You can continue to work while on disability but there is a limit to what you can earn.  If you can successfully run a business that enables you to support yourself, you are not qualified to receive SSDI any longer.  If you can get a part time job stuffing envelopes after a career in construction, but receive less for that job than you are receiving on disability, you CAN work that job and continue to receive the disability insurance for which you have paid into the system during your past gainful employment.

        1. mitchman79k profile image61
          mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Stuff envelopes? That's a total joke! I got my Engineering degree, I did not go back to college,after my surgery to stuff envelopes!

          1. wilderness profile image94
            wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You might check out this thread:
            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/106781

            1. mitchman79k profile image61
              mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              It's ironic how minimum wage is stated. Minimum wage does not exist for the mentally disabled .

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            Motown2Chitownposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            If you are able, then, to pursue gainful employment with that degree, you shouldn't necessarily be collecting SSDI.  I'm sure you weren't hoping to hear that, but SSDI is, after all, insurance.  It's not a reward for becoming physically or mentally disabled.

            1. mitchman79k profile image61
              mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              In a perfect world. I would agree.

      2. mitchman79k profile image61
        mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks, for sharing the link paradigmsearch

      3. mitchman79k profile image61
        mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks, for sharing the link paradigmsearch

      4. mitchman79k profile image61
        mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I just got a response from SSA 
        Concerning my PASS Application. PASS is an SSI Program and my SSDI is to much income to qualify for SSI.

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      DMartelonlineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Have you looked into "Ticket to Work"? It allows you in many cases to keep your insurance while you are starting your business.  The Ticket to Work (Ticket) program is voluntary. Social Security disability beneficiaries, ages 18 through 64, who want to work can receive free employment support services and test their ability to work. Special Social Security rules, called “work incentives,” make it easier to work while you are still receiving health care and cash benefits. The goal is to be financially independent.

      http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10060.html#a0=0

      also I am not sure if you're aware of this:

      "Effect of Income on Cash Benefits for SSDI:
      All or Nothing
      Receive full monthly benefit until going over earnings limit of $800 per month ($1,330/month for people who are blind) 2003 figures. After exceeding earning limit for 12 months, check is completely stopped.

      Effect of Income on Medical Benefits for SSI:
      Even if cash benefit ends, individual keeps Medicaid coverage until going over the threshold limit, an annual income limit that varies from state to state (from $12,000 to over $25,000)
      Note: The impact of employment on Medicaid benefits may be significantly reduced as a result of TWWIIA. Check with your local Medicaid or Social Security office for the most current information.

      Effect of Income on Medical Benefits for SSDI:
      When cash benefits end, Medicare coverage stays in effect for 7-1/2 years (this includes an expansion of 4-1/2 years under the new TWWIIA legislation, as of 10/1/2000)."

      http://www.onestops.info/article.php?article_id=102

  2. psycheskinner profile image80
    psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago

    I am confused.  The SSDI is for disabled people who are unable to engage in "substantial gainful activity".

    I would assume that included holding a job.

    1. mitchman79k profile image61
      mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I thought that too.

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      DMartelonlineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      This is not accurate: SSDI can be obtained by someone who has a disability that is expected to last 12 months or more or may result in death that makes work DIFFICULT but not impossible. For example I am eligible for SSDI because I'm legally blind. I CAN work (and I do) I do not currently collect but I certainly could.

  3. Sapper profile image68
    Sapperposted 4 years ago

    They aren't controlling your life, they are giving you a choice. Start a business and earn money, or collect SSDI. That's like saying they are controlling someones life because you can't get a job and collect unemployment.

    1. Onusonus profile image86
      Onusonusposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Another product of our benevolent entitlement system.

      1. wilderness profile image94
        wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Based on limited (almost nonexistent) information it would seem so.  Hopefully there is more to the story that we know.

      2. Ralph Deeds profile image70
        Ralph Deedsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        You mean our safety net.

        1. mitchman79k profile image61
          mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          More like a trap if u ask me.

          1. psycheskinner profile image80
            psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Not if you ask anyone, including myself, who would have been hungry and homeless in a difficult time without it. Would you prefer that people just be left to that fate?

    2. mitchman79k profile image61
      mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Sapper, your wrong. I don't want the unemployment. I need the insurance.

      1. Sapper profile image68
        Sapperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Obviously lacking in reading comprehension also.

        1. mitchman79k profile image61
          mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          So, let's reason this out. I had Brainstem surgery, at 20. Went back to college, after relearning to talk, write and drink again. Please, tell me what have you done in your life?

          1. Sapper profile image68
            Sapperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Joined 2 branches of the military, went to war for this country in each, founded a charity and a business, and been to more countries than most American's have states. Any more stupid questions?

            1. mitchman79k profile image61
              mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Yes I do, how  can you compare any of that to having an unsuccessful tumor surgery, take away your balance and roughly 28 points off your IQ?

              1. mitchman79k profile image61
                mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Yes, want to offer me a job?

              2. Sapper profile image68
                Sapperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                I don't know if you are looking for pity, but since it seems that way, you're barking up the wrong tree. There is nothing that pisses me off more than people who not only leech off the system, but then turn around and complain about it. Unfollowing now, because this is about as nice as I'm going to be.

                1. mitchman79k profile image61
                  mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Hahaha, leaching of the system, very self righteous

                  1. mitchman79k profile image61
                    mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Good, he left.

          2. psycheskinner profile image80
            psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            If you are able to work or start a business your benefit status might have changed. I would suggest going to your local agency and discussing this.  Because "substantial gainful activity" disqualifies one from SSDI in pretty much every state.  You can earn a little in some states while transitioning.  But as soon as the earning is "substantial" you will lose SSDI in any and every state--for obvious reasons.

            1. mitchman79k profile image61
              mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks

  4. ienjoythis profile image81
    ienjoythisposted 4 years ago

    Sapper, please do some research. SSDI and SSI are very different. I do not know mitchman but like him, my father is on SSDI. His is because of a physical disability that prevents him from working. He is not a leecher.

    1. mitchman79k profile image61
      mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      He left.

    2. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Seems that the perception here is that the OP could work and can even own and run a business.  If so, he is not in the same class as your father - just wants to work (or have his own business) while drawing SSDI at the same time.

  5. mitchman79k profile image61
    mitchman79kposted 4 years ago

    The  OP does not want to be on SSDI at all. I rather be giving money to the government in the form of taxes. Why do you think, "I want to have My Cake and eat it too!"

    1. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If so, that's surely in your favor.  Whether it is or not, though, the original post [i]sounds[i] like you want both, and has resulted in some rather negative comments throughout the thread. 

      It that post was not meant that way, and any of my own posts have offended, I apologize even though I've tried to indicate that there was insufficient evidence to indicate that you did indeed want both.

      1. mitchman79k profile image61
        mitchman79kposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Sorry, if It sounded like I wanted both, but I don't. If it wasn't for insurance, I'd would have given my SSDI up long ago.

  6. psycheskinner profile image80
    psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago

    The rules in relation to blindness are pretty different than from other conditions. They tend to have much stricter limits in the other categories and for all 'substantial gainful activity' is a disqualified. What varies is the definition of 'substantial'. Benefits are a potentially complex issue-- it is a good idea to get expert advice.

 
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