Article Spinning HubPage Challenge

Important Announcement:

The most powerful article spinning software is about to be revealed, more powerful than anything currently available, it will be incorporated into the most popular operating system and is absolutely guaranteed to beat Google’s duplicate content filter. No other piece of software has been in development longer, there’s no steep learning curve, you don’t even have to login and give up your email address to download it, and best of all it is completely free. What’s it called? THE BRAIN!

End of announcement.

Article Spinning, A Complete Misnomer

Spinning is a public relations tactic employed to gloss over the gaffs by politicians and celebrities. Poor public image can cost elections or crush lucrative endorsement deals, spin doctors exist, then, to present the nefarious activities of the rich and famous in a better light. Article spinning, on the other hand, is a complete reversal of this tactic that can best be described as deliberate attempt to self sabotage the ‘author’, the company or the products being promoted by posting low grade crap all over the web.

Article Spinning Hubpage Challenge

In previous hubs I have voiced my opinion about Article spinning, those hubs have attracted comments that both agree and disagree with my point of view. One commenter, Terry Glass, is an advocate of article spinning and writes very eloquently on the subject. As a result of our ongoing discussions a new HubPage challenge has been formed. Terry is attempting to get as many Google first page rankings as possible for the term ‘Article Spinning’ using his article marketing and spinning expertise. I, on the other hand, am trying to achieve the same by using article marketing techniques but without spinning any articles. The winner will be judged as whoever has the highest number of first page rankings on May 31st 2010.

At time of writing it has been little more than a week since the challenge was set so there is very little to comment on. As time progresses and our individual techniques come into play a clearer picture will emerge. It is my intention to update this hub every Sunday, so if the outcome of this challenge interests you stick around.

Sunday 7 March

It has been a very busy for me and unfortunately I have had no time to participate in the challenge this week. I see Terry has edged ahead in this time and that he is working with many pages with a view to putting them on page one. Well it is still early days and I am not overly worried at this time. Hopefully next week I will have something more positive to report.

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MyWebs 6 years ago from Sheridan, WY

Good luck, I truly hope you win because I despise article spinning. The output is typically pure gibberish garbage.

You had me going for a minute there until I got to BRAIN lol

You know SEO very well based on what I have read in a couple of your hubs. So you should pwn whoever this other person is.

Besides he is handicapped working without a BRAIN :)

I see you already got 1 point for a #9.


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

Thanks MyWebs, The results are pretty much dependant on the on geograpic location of the searcher, i see completely different results. So I guess we will have to designate which data center we base the final results on. I am sure for the sake of fairness Terry will not have a problem with this.

I guess that rules out Australian and UK based data centers, A US server would make sense as it gives neither of us an advantage.

Where are you located?


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MyWebs 6 years ago from Sheridan, WY

I'm located in Las Vegas, NV.


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

I would imagine that there are lots of nice deep pocketed clients in your neck of the woods!


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fdoleac 6 years ago from Hollis, New Hampshire

I like and believe in your process. I hope it proves out.


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

Thanks for the support fdoleac.


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MJ's HubNotes 6 years ago

I'm on the fence with this one. I look forward to your updates.


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

Hi MJ, I am sure it will get interesting over the coming weeks!


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agvulpes 6 years ago from Australia

G'day Peter I am keeping an eye on your challenge with keen interest :-)


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MyWebs 6 years ago from Sheridan, WY

So how goes the challenge so far?


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

It’s difficult to say anything meaningful at this stage. I can see Terry is very busy in comparison to me but I’m not concerned about this at present.

I would imagine that up to week eight or there about of the challenge there is likely to be a fair bit of jostling of positions after that things should settle down. By then each of us will be reaching our own individual critical mass, as far as linking is concerned, and each link thereafter will have less and less effect in SERPs. That said, I remain confident that the result will fall my way.

My opinion of Article Spinning has not changed, if you want to rewrite or bring up to date just one article then the time and effort spent wrestling with an article for spinning is difficult to justify. The effort is necessary if your plan is to creating thousands of variations and take up multiple positions in SERPs.

Anyone reading more than one spun version will not learn anything more than someone who read only one. Article spinning rarely produces good writing or considers the needs of the target reader although it offers a simple means to create a myriad of low quality pages purposed specifically to game search engine algorithms.

In short, Article Spinning is only useful if you plan on spamming.


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TerryGl 6 years ago

Hi Peter, I see your not letting too many secrets out. I think there is more to spinning an article by changing more then a few words here and there. I spin whole titles, sentences, paragraphs to make each article unique. If you print out article 1, 500 and 1000 of my spin content on A4 paper and hold it up to a light, they are totally different.

The reading aspect of it is just like each article was handwritten. This has been my point all along. Done properly and in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing, will produce quality spun articles.

I'm sort of jostling at the moment of taking MyWebs off my Christmas list, but I take his comment in good spirit.

Your one way links campaign has a lot of variation in the serps, seems only to last for short periods. I've tried everything in the book I can assure you and have now decided to step outside the square.

Thanks for picking such a hard keyword phrase with huge soc for us to battle with. Anyway, good luck.


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

Hi Terry, I think I have written about ten articles so far on spinning and my total time spent thus far is about 4 hours. I have no intention of having any of the pages you are talking about feature in the final rankings, and yes they will fade. Got to say though, your results are showing the same trend.

Over the next week or so you should start to see the pages I am running with emerge from behind the host crowding filter, where they are purposely being held, and start to climb. It’s all about timing.


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TerryGl 6 years ago

WHAT!!! - What do you mean ten articles. I remind you of what your challenge was based on:-

To prove something to you I will write 3 articles on the futility of article spinning, I wont spin them in any way and over the next week or so I will distribute them through blogs and article submission sites. Each article will be posted 100 times and link to this page. The goal is to get into the top 3 google results for 'Article Spinning'

There is nothing in there about ten articles. You cannot move the goal posts after you challenge someone. You must work within the rules and ten articles is not three as you first stated.


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

That correct that was the initial plan, I was going to publish three articles and you were going to use article spinning to see who came out better. May I remind you that since that agreement you have openly admitted to doing much more:

Submitting RSS feeds to aggregators

Creating Back links From Social media sites

forum profile links

A variety of other linking strategies

Multiple secret weapons, I guess if they are secret you can’t be talking about article spinning as that’s hardly a secret.

If you want to call the challenge off then do so, but for goodness sake don’t use lame ass excuses or attempt to implicate my reaction to your activities as unfair.

As they say, if you live by the sword...


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TerryGl 6 years ago

I really do not recall anywhere in the challenge that there was a caveat on what I could or could not do. However, it was you who proclaimed you could do it with 3 articles. So basically you are saying well I can't do it with 3 articles I now need 10.

I'm using 1, not two, not three but one article.

It does not matter what I do, it matters what you do and ten articles is not three. It was you who screamed challenge and then announced to the internet that the "winner" will be announced in the forum on May 31.

When you announce the "winner" will you also be announcing you used 10 and not 3 articles?


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

Terry, the challenge was initially based on spun content versus unspun content. That means precisely that, nothing more. How is it possible to decide which tactic is more successful if you are creating back links from social media sites and posting forum profile links etc. etc. etc.

The hypocrisy of calling wolf because I upped the anti in order to level the playing field is completely beyond belief. I guess my mistake was not calling you out when you first published your extracurricular activities.

I have decided to withdraw from the challenge because as it stands it has turned into an SEO challenge which would ultimately fail to reach any conclusion about article spinning, perhaps that was your goal. Anyway I have started pulling down my posts.

I have to say Terry, your interpretation of what was a simple challenge has me confused, your reaction to my upping the anti in order to compete on a fair playing field is at best naive and completely beggars belief. Unless you are completely stupid you knew exactly what you were doing and it wasn’t in the spirit of the initial challenge.

There was no caveat on what you could or could not do just an expectation of fair play. This attempt at 'spin' is certainly not working on me.


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MyWebs 6 years ago from Sheridan, WY

Terry I meant nothing personal, it was just a reference to Peter's hub and the lack of work involved with using spinning software / techniques.

I'm rather disappointed to see this end like this.

Maybe a second attempt could be made with the rules laid out much, more clearly so nothing major is left to interpretation?


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Etsel Skelton 6 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

Spinning is black hat crap! IMO It's filling the net up with mass produced junk, waste, and clutter.

As an SEO Consultant for over ten years, I'm very happy to see that Google is improving their anti-spam techniques (and it is spam) to combat this.

I've been white hat since the beginning, I was tempted, but never crossed to the dark side. All of my sites are doing well, having stood the test of time, and many competing fly-by-night black hat "SEO experts."


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Peter Hoggan 6 years ago from Scotland Author

Thanks for commenting Estel, yep it's spam I have no idea how article spinning could be seen as anything else.


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Silver Rose 6 years ago from UK

Well your hub is on the first page of Google for "article spinning", so you've won!

P.S. Am glad you made your stand. I hate spinners, they are one step up from plagiarisers. I've stopped submitting to Ezine - people used to take my articles, spin them a bit (so the sense was lost) and to add insult to injury no-followed my links.

I tend to write idiomatically, and the spinning machines don't understand irony. Change just one word for a synonym and you change the meaning into the opposite. A human reader would pick it up straight away, but the spinners don't.

On my bricks and mortar type blogs, I've also turned off my feed so that I can't get scraped and spun. My readers are all one-offs from the search engines and they don't care about feeds and subscribing, just that when they land on my page they get something really good (and unique).


Jenny 5 years ago

Unfornately, there are not a lot of good writers. I have four top ranking sites, in which I use article spinning methods to create back links, and original content to post on my blogs. Part of my article spinning method includes forum backlinks, blog commenting, social bookmarketing, etc. That's what comes with my SEO work. For example, I spin the description of my site to several forums, social bookmarking site, and blog sites comment.

Saves me loads of hours, and money. If you have time to waisting creating original content for backlinks, your completely foolish. Go ahead and waist your time. Spun content can be better than orginal content if produced write. As a tip, here's how to create super spun ready articles:

Super Unique: The level of uniqueness for these articles are super high.

1. Firstly, you write original 450-550 word, well researched articles on HOT IM or niche topics.

2. Then you create 2-4 totally unique variations for each sentence.

3. Next, you also spin it on word level, substituting certain synonymns just to make sure it is as unique as we can get it.

4. Finally, you spin it a few times and proofread it to make sure that it reads well and that the uniqueness level is high enough.

These 4 steps allow YOU to create millions of unique variations from 1 single super Spinnable Article!

Don't be foolish. Save your time, and energy. Your living in 2011. Use machines to get ahead, and increase productivity.

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