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A Suggestion for the HubPages Staff: Celebrate your Poets

Updated on January 29, 2015

An Opening Salvo

I’m the fly on the wall at HubPages that won’t go away. You know the fly I’m talking about, the buzzing little nuisance that shatters your tranquility and always manages to settle upon your dinner just before you take that first bite. Yep, that’s me!

So I’m feeling the need to do a little buzzing again, and hopefully that buzzing will be so annoying that the HP staff and management will just give up on the fly-swatter and give in to my suggestions.

Before we begin, let me state as clearly as possible that I am not a poet. In other words, I don’t have a horse in this race. My horse is residing, quite comfortably, in the creative writing barn, snacking on oats and whinnying to a tune of my own composition. I mention that so no one feels I am being self-serving in writing this. An article of this sort does not benefit me in any way, shape or form, but I do think it is necessary.

I have felt for some time now that HubPages is missing the boat. There are so many quality writers who simply get zero recognition from this site, and I think it’s a shame. Listen, I get it, HP is all about “show me the money,” and poetry doesn’t sell online. You’ll get no argument from me on that point. Poetry and creative writing are dead at the starting line when it comes to online revenue. That’s just the way the world is, and although I don’t like it, I do understand it.

So daily we see the flood of new articles telling us how to do this and how to do that, because that’s what the search engines want. We see recipes by the thousands, and travel articles, craft articles and parenting articles….and the money rolls in at HP and almost everyone is happy.

Except for the poets and creative writers who languish in the dumpster of obscurity.

But HubPages, you can do something about that, and it won’t cost you a darned thing.

Here’s my idea….you don’t have to thank me for it….I’m just glad I could help.

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This is me dreaming up more great ideas | Source

Get it? Improving this site?

Hotd, Best Questions and Other Nonsense

You already know how I feel about the HOTD, or Hub of the Day, for those of you unfamiliar with that acronym. Each and every day we wake up, log on to HubPages, and find an article, chosen by staff, that is considered outstanding in every way. Well, not every way…sometimes the quality is a bit shaky…and sometimes the grammar leaves a bit to be desired…but heck, nobody is perfect, right? The HP staff is happy with their selection so who am I to argue?

Also, weekly, we receive our newsletters, and in every newsletter we are told the outstanding questions of the week. I have no idea what this has to do with writing but what the hell, I’m all for a little obscurity, so go with it if it makes some people happy.

Then we have tips from the HP staff on how to write better SEO-friendly articles, and we have interviews with new editors, and a bunch of other stuff (excuse my poor choice of words) that I can live quite easily without but I really don’t have strong feelings for or against.

Did I miss anything?

Well yes, yes I did.

I missed anything with substance!

This is where HP is missing the proverbial boat. There are some seriously good writers on this site, but they are basically ignored week in and week out. Wouldn’t you think that HP staff and management would want to showcase those writers in an attempt to present itself as a serious writing site? It just makes good sense (or cents) and for the life of me I don’t understand why it isn’t done.

So here’s my suggestion.

Recycle what isn't working and try a new idea
Recycle what isn't working and try a new idea | Source

Pay Attention Now

Every week on the newsletter, HP, you should have a Poet’s Corner. In that weekly article you can highlight one of the fine poets on this site. Please note this will not cost you a penny, but it will give the poets some recognition and we all will share in the good vibes. Poets on HubPages aren’t asking for much, and they are expecting less. How about giving them some recognition just for the hell of it? You benefit from doing this, they benefit…my God, I’m getting all warm and fuzzy just thinking about it.

You could do the same thing for short story writers, but if I suggest that I’m going to sound self-serving, so we’ll table that idea for the time being.

What’s that, you say? Nobody on the staff has the time to write up an extra blurb? Well of course you do. Whoever is in charge of choosing “favorite questions” can just toss that away and insert this new feature. Or, if you like, I’ll be more than happy to write the weekly blurb and you won’t have to do a thing other than copy and paste.

I really think this is a great idea, and I’ll bet, if you read the comments on this article, you’ll see that quite a few of my peers feel the same way.

Look at All the Poets We Can Choose From

My goodness gracious, where do I begin? There really are some high-quality poets on this site. Just off the top of my head I would mention AudreyHowitt, Smilealot, Wayne Barrett, ChristyWrites, Jodah, Manatita44, and so many more. I’m sure you can name some yourself, right? You must have noticed them from time to time when you weren’t choosing your favorite questions of the week. How about sending them some love so they will feel appreciated?

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There are beautiful horizons ahead if you would only listen to me and act on my suggestions | Source

So That’s My Idea

What do you think of it? A weekly Poet’s Corner highlighting one poet. It won’t take you much time and it sure will make some poets feel good, and if time really is an issue then I’ll be glad to write it for you.

How can you lose? What possible objection could you have to this?

I look forward to hearing from you, and I look forward to hearing from my peers.

Don’t try to thank me, HP. I’m just trying to help you spread your wings and fly.

2015 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”

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      Simon 2 years ago from Ireland

      I think this is a great idea. I write poetry myself and I don't expect much as a poet. But it would be nice to get some recognition and a bit of help from HP for us struggling poets.

      It would be good to do it for short story writers too, again something I do, so sorry if I sound self serving.

      I approve of this idea and really if there is anything I can to help please let me know.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Francis. It seems so easy to do, if someone on the staff is actually willing.

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      Janine Huldie 2 years ago from New York, New York

      I love your idea and seriously they need to hire you. I actually thought of you last night when I finally got an generic e-mail to tell me I had an Editor's Choice for HUB I had written. No mention of which article nor the fact that I have more then one that has been granted this title or even that they have had this title for some time now. Crazy, but a bit of personalization goes a long way in my book as I know you would agree. thanks always Bill and hoping you are having a fine day so far.

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      Sam 2 years ago from Ireland

      The Poet's corner is an excellent idea billybuc.

      It would include poets much more into Hub pages.

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      breakfastpop 2 years ago

      I love you , billy..,...

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      samtebbutt, yes it would, and it is needed. We have too much talent here that goes unnoticed. Thank for your thoughts.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Pop, what a sweet message this morning....and I love you, my friend. Thank you!

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      Ann Carr 2 years ago from SW England

      Amen to that, bill. I can't see why any writing site worth its salt can ignore the poets and other creative writing. Do they want writers or not? I hope they get annoyed by your fly-on-the-wall and actually do something.

      On a similar note, I had an email this morning telling me that one of my hubs has been picked for some sort of special editorial treatment - can I find out which one? Don't be silly! Even following the link they gave me, I'm none the wiser. Just another automated email with no end product.

      Ah well.... Let's just get on with our quality writing, shall we? Do I care what they think? Not really, but I do care what my fellow hubbers think and feel and many of them are poets. Got it yet, HP? (No, still not listening!)

      Great one, bill!

      Have a great Thursday!

      Ann

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Good morning Ann. You make me smile and for that I thank you.

      I got the automated email too; filled me with warmth and good feelings.....NOT!!!!

      Oh well, I cherish my friends so I'm a rich man and really don't need HP to help me nurture those friendships.

      Have a splendid day, my friend.

      bill

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      Shauna L Bowling 2 years ago from Central Florida

      Bill, this is a great idea. We have so many talented poets on HP. If awards and/or recognition are going to be given by HP, the criteria should include all writers in all genres all the time.

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      Jennifer Arnett 2 years ago from California

      I totally see where HP is coming from. Google will never pick up poems, and it's hard to find advertisers who want to be next to them. However, I have seen a few advertisers like writing degrees and publishing houses that would appeal to the creative writing crowd.

      I have always wished that creative writing categories were more obvious. It needs to be a bigger category with more defined sub-categories. Like make it a central topic, then cut it into different types of creative writing, then narrow it further. For instance: Creative Writing--Short Stories--horror. Then someone who likes a certain genre or type can fins hundreds of stories like it. Maybe even these hubs could be un-numbered. Part of what has stopped me from writing poetry is the fear of it not being featured and the fear of dropping my hub score.

      I don't think HP will ever play ball, but I hope I'm wrong. I'm just happy that they allow us to publish creative writing in the first place. For poems, since they don't have normal sentence structure, HP could always not allow publishing, and flag it for poor content or bad grammar.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I obviously agree with you, Sha. This would take so little effort. I just want to see some talented writers get some positive strokes. Thanks for weighing in.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Jen, I understand about Google, but this isn't about profit and advertising. This is just about a pat on the back and some recognition. The poems are there anyway; why not single out some for a good word? HP already makes no money on poetry, but if they are going to allow it, then why not just mention a poet each week????

      Thanks for your thoughts. I don't think HP will play ball either, but I keep grabbing my glove and hoping they will.

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      Jamie Lee Hamann 2 years ago from Reno NV

      Amen....

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Indeed, Jamie! Thank you!

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      Eric Dierker 2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      My name is Eric Dierker and I approve of this message!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      And a powerful approval that is, Eric! Thank you, Sir!

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      DREAM ON 2 years ago

      To see the poets rise and take a stand

      Without a gun in their hand

      They may never be heard for their words

      Each stroke of a key

      Brings happiness and misery

      Writers write the best stories they know

      Poets share their thoughts and imagination

      Going from word to word

      Like a game of leap frog

      Where everyone plays

      The sun rises and people scatter

      Old woman chit chat

      The wind blows a man loses his hat

      A young boy runs to catch it

      A little girl cries

      A gentleman tips his hat

      Thank you

      Billy Buc

      For it is friends like you

      That make every day exciting and new

      I loved your hub

      I enjoy poets that come to share their passion

      For they see the world from a different view

      One not right or wrong

      Just different

      With a power that is hidden

      Like the water in a shower head

      Ready to cover you from top to bottom

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      Marlene Bertrand 2 years ago from Northern California, USA

      Hello billybuzz... I mean, billybuc! I agree with you. Wouldn't it be nice to see a POTD (Poem of the Day)? It would be like the daily quotes of the day. They're quite a joy to read and, by the way, I see a couple of my favorite poets on your "top of the head" list. Thanks for buzzing around.

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      Sparklea 2 years ago

      Keep buzzing Mr. Fly! You have to be one of the most generous thoughtful people on earth. Thank you for this great suggestion to the HP editors! I love that you speak your mind and heart right up front! Nothing fake about you! How could the editors say no to this sincere plea in favor of poets? God bless you for taking the time to do this! Sparklea. :)

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 2 years ago from The Caribbean

      The Poetry Corner is a great idea and I second the suggestion if we need to vote. Some really good poetry is showcased on HP and by recognizing them, HP might become the agent to get them some respect online. Thanks for taking the lead!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Dream On, that was the perfect comment for this hub. You brought a smile to my face. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Bzzzz...hello, Marlene, and thanks for the smile. :) It just makes good sense, and I don't know why HP won't do it...maybe they will and I can quit buzzing around them. :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Lea. It would be so easy to do....maybe HP is listening, huh? We can always hope. Thank you for your kind words. They mean a lot to me.

      blessings today and always

      bill

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      That would be my hope, Dora. It wouldn't cost HP a thing to do and it would give support to a great number of poets.

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      Karen Szklany Gault 2 years ago from New England

      Hi Bill,

      Thanks so much for writing this!

      I love writing poetry, but often the deepest poems can be the shortest....much less than the 1150 the HP editors consider for featured hubs. There are epic poems that are awesome and classic...but there are some worth sharing that are significantly shorter. But you are already aware of this because you wrote this hub. ~:0)

      Loved listening to the TED talk you included! Time to start taking more walks each day! ~:0)

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      Melissa Propp 2 years ago from Minnesota

      Wow, this is a great idea! I would be a thousand more times likely to check out the poem of the day/week than I would be to check out the questions...I can come up with my own questions (and I can ask the great and powerful google god for answers). This would cost HP staff nothing and be a great PR move on their part. Bring on the warm and fuzzy, HP!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Seafarer...I love TED talks. Bev and I watch those videos quite often...as for poetry, I may not be able to write it, but I sure can enjoy it.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Melissa, Happy Thursday! So nice to see you later in the week. Warm and fuzzy indeed, my friend, and it would be free, and that's the best kind of warm and fuzzy. :)

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      Karen Szklany Gault 2 years ago from New England

      Also love the idea of replacing the accolade around best questions with a Poetry Corner.

      If anyone has a question they'd love lots of interesting input for, then that question could be transformed into a hub, instead. :0)

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      Jean Bakula 2 years ago from New Jersey

      Hi billybuc,

      A friend recently told me about TedTalks, and it's so interesting, I'm hooked!

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      Sally Gulbrandsen 2 years ago from Norfolk

      Hi Billy

      An excellent idea. There are signs that HubPages staff are beginning to take notice of their writers. Perhaps they will respond to this one. If they don't read this, might I suggest that you add this suggestion to the 'New HubPages Feature Suggestions' which you can find under the forum drop down list. Perhaps they have to read these.

      Thanks for supporting writers so that they can fly.

      Sally

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Very true, Seafarer. I think HP should hire both of us to help them with some common sense issues.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I have been for years, Jean. I'm glad you found it. Great stuff there!

      Thank you for visiting.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Sally. I have seen some favorable signs of late. Maybe the day will come when I don't have to buzz around and be an annoyance. :)

      bill

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 2 years ago from Southern Illinois

      I love you Bill. ( I mean I love his spirit Bev. ) I don't call myself a poet, but I sure do like to rhyme. If I have three hubs to read, one a how to, one a short story, the other a poem, of course I choose the poem because I dearly love poetry. Way to go Bill!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ruby, I think Bev will understand, and I love your spirit as well. Thank you so much. I understand. I'm not a poet but I can certainly appreciate the beauty of poetry.

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      William Leverne Smith 2 years ago from Hollister, MO

      I don't write poetry either, but I endorse your proposal enthusiastically. Thanks for posting this great suggestions! ;-)

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      Jackie Lynnley 2 years ago from The Beautiful South

      I have spent over four years here wishing this very thing Bill; I hope they will hear you! You are a real sweetheart.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks for the endorsement, Bill. Maybe they will listen if enough people support it.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Jackie. I just believe in what is right, and this is right.

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      Marilyn L Davis 2 years ago from Georgia

      Good evening, Billy; couldn't agree more. I suffer from poet envy. I think of them as apple writers - so many types and ways to prepare them...oh, I could wax poetic (sorry) for some time. I consider myself an orange writer - non-fiction, although taking a stab at your challenge and getting responses, maybe I've added the blood orange. Enough.

      HP needs to value all of the writers on the site that produce quality work. Just coming back, I know I have little, if any influence, but I'll stand on the proverbial picket line with you on this one.

      Let's hear it for the POETS. ~Marilyn

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Marilyn, I'm so happy that my challenge has you bleeding a little orange. :) I like to say I'm a poet trapped in a prose body. I just can't seem to get the hang of poetry, but I can be quite poetic in a short story. Don't bother figuring that out. I've been trying for years. :)

      Thanks for the chuckle and the comment.

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      Bill De Giulio 2 years ago from Massachusetts

      Hi Bill. I think this is a great idea. Thank you for suggesting it and hopefully someone at HubPages is listening. I wish I could write poetry like some of the wonderful poets here on HubPages and they should be celebrated. Have a great weekend Bill.

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      Lena Kovadlo 2 years ago from Staten Island, NY

      That's a great idea! I am all for it being a poet myself. I've published some of my poetry/lyrics on here but not as much since this is more considered an article site. Would be nice to get recognized.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You and me both, Bill. I just can't seem to get the handle on poetry, but I sure love reading it.

      Thank you my friend and Happy Friday to you.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      It would be nice, Lena. You deserve recognition, and thank you for stating your opinion here.

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      Mary Hyatt 2 years ago from Florida

      I enjoy writing poetry and short stories, but I don't publish my stuff much here. I just keep my writings of that kind in my private collection. Every now and again, I will bring out something here, but they never get much traffic.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      No, Mary, and they won't get traffic on HP. My idea is just to give a pat on the back to poets and make them feel appreciated. Thanks for your thoughts.

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      Cat on a Soapbox 2 years ago

      Hi Bill. I think the "powers that be" here at Hubpages should put away their fly swatters and listen to the buzz! A Poet's Corner is a wonderful idea and I dare anyone to find fault with it. Thank you for the support!

      Cat :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cat, it's my pleasure. Thanks for throwing your support in favor of it.

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      Faith Reaper 2 years ago from southern USA

      There are so many amazing poets here who should be highlighted. I think those who write flash fiction and creative short stories should also be recognized. At least we are able to vote for Poet of the Year. Being HP has these topics under which to write, surely they are agreeable to somehow highlight writers in these genre. Maybe they can allow us to vote on a great poem we have read each week and the one who receives the most votes is featured ...or something along those lines. Peace and blessings

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      Lori Colbo 2 years ago from Pacific Northwest

      Here Here!!! For he's a jolly good fellow. What's interesting to me personally, is that although I have had a few of my hub articles plagierised, I have stumbled across a few of my poems, reprinted in other online publications (properly attributed and linked) and have been asked if someone could use one of my poems for some project someone is doing. That happened twice. I am not a seasoned, brilliant poet, but I love to write it and there are a few I've written with strong passion and it's been appreciated (by other hubbers and other online readers). And I have discovered some really amazing, brilliant poets on HP, and the one's you mentioned are among my favs. Poetry is a gift to the world and although the search engines, hubpages, and advertisers don't appreciate it because it doesn't line their pockets, we need poetry in this world desperately. What would the world be like without the word art of poetry? It's not for everyone, but it speaks to millions of people. Even bad poetry can be good because if anything, it can bring a little levity. Thanks for going to bat for our poets who work so hard and grace us with such beauty.

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      Chitrangada Sharan 2 years ago from New Delhi, India

      This is a brilliant idea and I hope the HP staff is listening. Its time the wonderful poets at HP are recognized and celebrated. There are some wonderful poets at HP.

      I enjoying writing poems off and on but usually post them at my blogger page.

      Thanks for this wonderful suggestion to HP! Voted up!

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      Frank Atanacio 2 years ago from Shelton

      thank you for fighting the good fight.. but careful my friend.. watch for the rolled up newspaper..:) cheers

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      Devika Primić 2 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      There are many good poets on HP and they deserve recognition. A thoughtful hub.

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      Venkatachari M 2 years ago from Hyderabad, India

      Billybuc, it's so great an idea! Hats off to you!!! I like you so much always thinking of others. It's a great virtue only very few possess. Thanks a lot on behalf of all my poet hubbers here.

      Seeing the comments flow, I got one more idea for the hubpages staff. I want a like button here on the comments feed. I want to like some comments and appreciate them. So, canvass for it also.

      Thanks you once again.

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      John Hansen 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

      Hi Bill, better late than never. I was hoping by the time I got here you would have at least one comment from HP staff...AS IF..

      You know how I feel about this (thanks for the mention). A poet's corner is a great idea. I don't see the point of "questions" anyway. If we need to know anything pertaining to writing here we can find the answer in "forums". The questions are usually totally unrelated to writing on this site as far as I can see. Besides in regard to whether the staff have enough time to monitor something like a "Poet's Corner" in their newsletter, the latest one says they are doing away with the "Rising Star" awards, so whoever has been looking after that could be reassigned. I applaud you for writing this on behalf of the poets, but all creative fiction writers should be included. Thank you my friend.

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      John Hansen 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

      Bill, I have added a link to this hub on my own hub "To Be Or Not To Be A Poet". I feel it is important to share this. The more it is seen the more likely something may be done.

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      Catherine Giordano 2 years ago from Orlando Florida

      Great idea, billybuc, but HP might not want to encourage more poetry hubs since they don't earn.

      May I suggest that hubbers add text to the poetry hubs they do, writing on the subject of the poem. For instance, when I did a poem about Edith Piaf, I included Piaf's bio. And I got HOTD with a hub where I wrote about the craft of writing (prose and poetry) and included 4 poems on the subject of writing poetry.

      I too see no need for the questions. I'm too busy writing hubs to be bothered with that.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Great suggestions, Faith, and obviously I agree with you. There are a number of things HP could do to highlight those who write for the pure joy of writing. I hope someone is listening.

      Thank you my friend, and Happy Weekend to you.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Lori, I wish I would have said, in my hub, what you just said. That's exactly the reason why HP should do this....because poetry helps us as a society and it is needed. Thank you for a beautiful defense of poetry. Very nicely worded.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you ChitrangadaSharan. This would be so easy to do...I just hope someone at HP is listening.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you DDE. I agree with you completely.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Venkatachari M, and I agree with you. A like button would be nice so we can show our appreciation for some wonderful comments. Nice idea, my friend.

      Have a wonderful weekend and blessings to you always.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      John, you are so right about the Rising Star....it would take no more effort to highlight poets and spread some love around. I think poetry is vitally important for civilization, and it's time HP got on that bandwagon.

      Thank you for weighing in, buddy. Have a great weekend.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I appreciate that, John. Thanks for linking. Let's hope many see it.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Great suggestion, Catherine. I'm all for any suggestion that gets us to the central point of it all: poets deserve recognition. Thank you.

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      Catherine Giordano 2 years ago from Orlando Florida

      I'll just add: HP is a business. It's job is to make money. HP does not exist to serve writers--that is a by-product. If featuring poets makes money, directly or indirectly, they will do it. If not, they won't.

      It reminds me of the column on couponing in my Sunday newspaper. People write in to complain as if coupons were a form of charity to help people lower their food bills. Coupons are a marketing tool to increase sales; helping people is a by-product. If a coupon doesn't help sales, you won't see it.

      You can publish for your personal enjoyment and the enjoyment of your readers, and it is nice that HP gives us a place to do that, but HP will only encourage/reward/recognize hubs that earn money for HP in one way or another.

      I confess, a lot of my hubs are self-indulgent--I write what I feel like writing--but I don't expect HP to reward me for it. Sometimes I accidentally stumble upon something and produce a hub that is good for HP.

      That said it would be nice for HP to recognize poetry and flash fiction..

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Catherine, I'm fully aware of that. I would imagine most writers here are....and I'm also aware that HP's business model is a leaking boat that is slowly sinking. Perhaps they might make money and keep writers from leaving if they did something like this. Yes, it is simply a placebo for writers, but being appreciated has no value on it....more writers will stay if they feel their work is valued.

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      Catherine Giordano 2 years ago from Orlando Florida

      Yes, you are right. Good bosses always find ways to reward their employees in non-monetary ways.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Catherine. The little things can mean so much to those struggling for recognition. I just want HP to regain their position of prominence, and I want my friends to receive some recognition for their fine work. Have a great weekend.

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      manatita44 2 years ago from london

      Such a nice article! I mean it's totally awesome plus brilliant, but I like 'nice' for now, as I was laughing for a lot of it! Here goes Bill, again, hehe. Quite serious though, your Hub! The suggestion for a Poet's Corner is such a beautiful one! I really liked it, as well as for the short story idea, too. (I will post one soon after I leave here).

      In my view, Audrey and Nellieanna are totally awesome! Wayne's, 'The Slow Touch of my Finger' is total genius, and there are some other greats as well. While we are at it, Hubpages can have a romantic column for Gypsy, perhaps. She appears to be the Queen there. I believe that Jodah has been applauded, but as far as I know, he seems to be the only one.

      I note your take on the best question bit. I agree. Thanks again, Bro. Yet another voice for us Hubbers who remain perhaps talented, but virtually unknown. Just as well, perhaps, that I was not seeking this. Peace My Friend.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Manatita, expecting more money out of HP is asking a lot, but expecting them to support our efforts is not asking for very much at all. :) Thank you for always being here, and for the beautiful poetry you share with the world.

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      ocfireflies 2 years ago from North Carolina

      Bill,

      I know there must be lots of extra jewels in your creative crown. How lucky we all are to have you on HP. Thank you for all that you do to remind the world how important it is to be heard, acknowledged, noticed from time to time.

      Smiles,

      Kim

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Kim, I am a writer. We are connected that way, and you are my friend, so I'll go to bat for you any old day. Thank you, and have a great weekend.

      bill

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      Victor W. Kwok 2 years ago from Hawaii

      Poets definitely deserve our appreciation.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Yes they do, vkwok. They have my admiration for sure, since I don't have a poetic bone in my body. :)

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      Graham Lee 2 years ago from Lancashire. England.

      Three cheers Bill. I'm with you all the way on this one. Carry on leading the way. I fear you are preparing us for your early withdrawal, I hope I'm wrong.

      Graham.

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 2 years ago from United Kingdom

      What a great idea. I agree there are many talented poets here who deserve a shout out. That would go a long way towards improving HP's image. It makes total sense...so it probably won't happen. We'll probably have to spread the word ourselves by posting these poems on social media.

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      Faith Reaper 2 years ago from southern USA

      Hey guys, I meant to mention that the questions in the HP Weekly are not chosen by a person but rather the "bots" ...robots, randomly and they are not considered the "best" questions posed, just those randomly chosen from those you follow who happened to ask a question is all. Well, I believe this is the case LOL

      Peace and blessings for a wonderful weekend

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Graham! I'm going to scale back in April but I won't leave. Friendships are too important to me.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Zulma, I think you said it perfectly...it make sense so it probably won't happen. :) I feel like I'm teaching again and the kids aren't paying attention....in this case, the HP staff are the kids. :) Have a great weekend, and thank you.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Faith, I didn't know that...still, nobody cares about it, so why not fill the space with some good will for poets? That's interesting...it's not even a person doing it. LOL

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      Faith Reaper 2 years ago from southern USA

      LOL, yes, not even a person ... well, I believe that to be the case. It would be better to highlight a great poet!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Faith. Have a superb weekend.

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      Sara Sarwar Riaz 2 years ago from Michigan, USA

      I was beyond pleased to read your hub and your kind acknowledgment of all the talent in the poetic and creative writing arena on hub pages. I am a poet and artist by default… I grew up to become a doctor but have always continued to remain the former at heart. I have written and published in the past but had to relinquish my passion for writing owing to my obligations to the demanding career of medicine. I recently joined this platform in order to revisit that side of myself and let it flourish amongst the talents of other creative writers. I am, however, not as certain anymore… because the world of writing has seemed to have evolved to another level of expectations, where there is little room for recognition for idealistic and abstract writers like myself. As you had rightly mentioned, it so much revolves around search engine appropriate and financially yielding material. If it were for writing about hard core facts and answering scientific and medical research questions, I could litter my content with it since I am a triple speciality certified physician, but I am here for the exactly obverse reasons… This is my escape from that world.

      It is indeed a comfort to know that there are worthy people like yourself who do have an eye and appreciation for such form of writing.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Sara, thank you for your comment. I think your observation about the world of writing evolving is very accurate. There are far too many people today calling themselves writers who only know how to write a sentence using keywords. I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to writing, and it saddens me to think we are heading down that road. I applaud those who treat writing as the craft and art that it is....so thank you.

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      Madeleine Salin 2 years ago from Finland

      This is great idea, Bill. I don't understand HP at all. I had several spam comments a couple of weeks ago and I went to HP to delete them and realized I had earned some money - from spammers. I love your idea to give the poets some space and recognition instead of all the nonsense going on here.

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      Nithya Venkat 2 years ago from Dubai

      A fantastic idea!! Hats off to you for thinking about this!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you, Made. The day you understand HP, write an article about it so the rest of us can understand. :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Vellur! So far no word from HP.

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      Smilealot 2 years ago

      Bill...firstly thank you for the mention.....This is a great idea to improve the writing experience for poets using the site. Although simply writing poetry for many poets is probably an end in itself, recognition and appreciation are incredible motivators and would be welcomed by any poet I'm sure. A poets corner would be a great way of getting the recognition and could encourage new and experienced poets to step up their poetic efforts. Thank you Bill for thinking about your poet friends, it is very much appreciated:-))

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Smilealot, it is my pleasure and you are welcome. I'm all for promoting good writing, no matter what genre that may be. This world needs good writers and we need to encourage them always. Thanks for the visit.

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      Christy Kirwan 2 years ago from San Francisco

      Nice suggestions, Bill. I do think we should do more for our creative writers on the site. We have some incredible talent. Hubs of the Day have to also be EC Hubs now, but I encourage you and other Hubbers to email me the best creative writing Hubs you come across. What I can do is try to work them into our social media channels to give them a bit more exposure. :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Christy. I appreciate your feedback and suggestion. Whatever they are paying you is not enough. :) Have a wonderful week at HP.

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      Mary Craig 2 years ago from New York

      Highlight poetry and creative writing....what a novel idea for a writing site. We need more staff like Christy, someone who understands the true creative process.

      You are certainly one of our gems and yes, your peers agree with you and back your suggestions. All I can add is Bravo!

      Voted all but funny.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Mary. I was very happy to see Christy respond. It takes so little to keep writers happy. One would think that lesson would have sunk in by now. :)

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      Pamela Oglesby 2 years ago from United States

      I am not a poet, but I fully agree with your. I think there are some excellent poets, and a poets corner would allow them to get the recognition they deserve. I don't see the point in the questions either, and you can literally find out anything you want to know by searching Google. I hope the staff will consider your suggestion, and obviously many others agree. Awesome article.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Pamela, and I appreciate you stopping by. It seems like such a simple fix.

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      Joy56 2 years ago

      Someone read my latest hub, and directed me to you to get help? Should I be happy or insulted.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...Joy, I don't know...I'm not sure what that means. :) But thanks for being here. I'll go read your latest and see if something jumps out at me.

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      Joy56 2 years ago

      You may see the comment and know the hubber. Forgot to say like your writing style

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      Joy56 2 years ago

      Oh it was Suzanne. I put lovely comments on her hub too.. About making a bra bag.... I ask you. P.s. I am a great poet... Thanks for the heads up ha ha ha ha ha .

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Joy and yes, I know the Hubber. I think she meant well.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      My pleasure, Joy, Oh Great Poet that you are. :)

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      Joy56 2 years ago

      Ha ha yes I think she did,,,,,,, all poets are great without exception.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Too funny, Joy! Thank you and have a wonderful weekend.

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      Genna East 2 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      Thank goodness for our fly on the wall that won’t go away! This is a topic near and dear to me, Bill. And I love your idea about the Poet’s Corner. There are a number of talented poets who don’t write much poetry on the Hub since this is given the heave-ho regarding points, diminished profile scores, and so on, in favor of “How To Make A Boiled Egg.” Okay, there are certain recipe articles and writers that I do follow and enjoy, but to constantly single all of these out over other writing of substance gets annoying. I only hope that the gods at HP finally perk up and smell the coffee. :-) Voted way up and shared.

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      Glimmer Twin Fan 2 years ago

      I'm not a poet and I know it....I also don't read a lot of poetry, can't help it, I never have, but I love your suggestion and it might encourage me to read more poetry.

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      John Hansen 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

      Maybe I should write a poem titled "How to Bake the World's Best Apple Pie" or something to that effect. Just to see how it rates. What do you think Bill?

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      Joy56 2 years ago

      Do it Jodah because it could be a winner........ The old traditional apple pie like your mother used to make

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Genna, I doubt seriously if this will change any minds at HP, but it needed to be said. I love poetry written by talented poets such as yourself, and I think you deserve a shout out occasionally. Thank you for bringing beauty into the world with your words.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Glimmer, I hardly read any poetry until I came to HP...now I read it to support my friends, and that's all this is...a show of support. :) Thank you for stopping by this Sunday morn.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...John, how could it hurt? It would be a grand experiment and I hope you do it.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Exactly Joy!

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      Gustave Kilthau 2 years ago from USA

      Brother Holland -

      Your suggestion that HubPages institute a "Poets' Corner' so as to more prominently display the works of those inclined to truncate thoughts and even whole paragraphs into mere lines - poems and what purports to be poetry - is well-received both here and around the HubPages world.

      That brings forth a real big problem for the HubPages staff.

      What will they do without the easy choices for their "Hub of the Day" thing? People will surely miss seeing a steady flow of chocolate cake recipes, instructions for making selfie photographs, conger eel jelly-making, pasta formulae, and the rest of the extraordinary things that treat all of Internet humanity upon downloading HubPages of an otherwise dreary day?

      HubPages is not a "writing site." It is an advertising revenue generation site.

      This poet thing is not new, nor restricted to HubPages. Most ordinary folk tend to believe that poetry is fairly useless stuff unless it is either dreary or unintelligible. Were the HubPages staff to institute a "Poets' Corner" thing, it would soon be filled with dreary and unintelligible stuff. This is what happened on the Public Broadcasting System. The dross like they recite there from the pens of their chosen "Poets of the Year" (etc.) would be front and center on HubPages' new "Poets' Corner."

      Thinking back a few years, BillyBuc, I wrote little poem for HubPages that garnered lots of attention and commentary, indeed, much praise. I had put the thing together as a work of sarcasm and mockery of non-poem poems. I was shocked when HubPages readers took the ridiculous thing seriously.

      Poets need corners into which they can be stuffed. I am a poem junkie, pure and (very) simple - a poem junkie. However, instead of just a corner, I elect the middle of the floor rather than the corner. If folks don't like what I write, they can always walk around it. Those who enjoy the stuff can sit right in the middle of it and pick it up and run with it - or set a match to it.

      It may be that all who write poetry feel the same way. "Those are my thoughts. Take them or leave them. I like 'em and that's what counts."

      Short stories? Now there's another thing. Give that a whole room by itself.

      Gus :-)))

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Gus, I'm in the middle of a project outdoors, but I wanted you to know I've been laughing about your comment all day long. This one is a classic...it belongs in the HP Hall of Fame....and I mean that kindly. :) Totally enjoyed it.

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      Peggy Woods 2 years ago from Houston, Texas

      Gus's comment was indeed funny. Some drivel types of poetry do deserve a match...just my opinion of course. Keep your 'fly on the wall' thing operating Bill. You generate good thoughts and ideas! We do have some really good poets who write here and it would be nice to give them a nod now and again. :)

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Peggy! I'll just keep buzzing around and hope I don't get hit with a fly swatter. :)

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      John Hansen 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

      He Bill...I did it! Well not Apple Pie, but Scrambled Egg :) Wish me luck.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I saw it and loved it, John! Way too funny! Bring on the HOTD!

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      John Hansen 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

      Thanks Bill.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You bet, John!

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      pennyofheaven 2 years ago from New Zealand

      Fabulous idea!

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Penny! I appreciate the support.

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      Celebrates 2 years ago

      You express much wisdom here. Although I can understand, from a business standpoint that, preference for whatever appears to pay the most, seems logical, however, that strategy will inevitably fail, because it takes incentive away from those that are talented, creative and genuinely interactive and focuses on the "cookie cutter" or "puppy mill" factor, to the eventual detriment of all.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Celebrates, as a former businessman, I can certainly understand the business model they use here at HP, but their business model is failing. The only proof they need of that is the decreasing number of writers here. Something needs to change and this is a simple fix that will keep poets happy.

      Thank you for the visit and your thoughts.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Gus, you are cracking me up. The stats you mentioned are real. This is a sinking ship....it may well be that the business model just doesn't work any longer, and now that the novelty has worn off, these content mills are a thing of the past along with hula hoops.

      As for your poem....what could it hurt. When the ship is sinking, what's one more drop of water? :)

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      Gustave Kilthau 2 years ago from USA

      To our good friend, the billybuc -

      Thanks for being out front and scratching the pimple. Looking at the stats for HubPages on the Alexa website, things are not so hot. Back around September, HubPages' worldwide ranking (attendance) was about 400 and today it is right close to 900 - and that is even with the addition of what was left of "Squidoo" to its roster of write-a-holics.

      There may be some sort of content-writing-website epidemic disease rampant, for the infamous Big Bubble website dropped from around 1250 down to close to 9000 during the same period.

      "Yankee Doodle came to town,

      riding on a poem.

      Hubbed a page - Bubble burst -

      Then they sent Doodle home.

      'Sorry Yank, we did not mean

      that poeming's just plain rotten.

      It's only that we think yours stink.

      In fact, they're best forgotten.'

      'So if you want to write a poem,

      please make it long and dreary.

      Repeat it only to yourself,

      for most poems make US weary.'"

      What do you think, Brother Holland? Would a great poem like that one bring our Alexa deal up at least one whole point?

      Regards,

      Gus :-)))

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      Deb Hirt 2 years ago from Stillwater, OK

      Agreed. Every genre should be highlighted, via QUALITY standards. Poetry is a good starting point, and we could go from there.

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      Bill Holland 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Obviously I agree, Deb. It seems to me to be so easy to do. Nothing else they are doing is working so why not?

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