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Updated on July 26, 2013
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Justin W. Price, AKA PDXKaraokeGuy, is a freelance writer, blogger, and award-nominated author based out of Juneau, Alaska.

Let me let you in on a little secret:

I want to read your hub. I follow over 1,000 hubbers and never have fewer than 1500 e mails from Hubpages informing me of comments I need to respond to, or new articles I need to read. Additionally, as a student, freelance writer and editor, my time is limited. On Hubpages, I'm going to read things that interest me. That's it. I need to be selective.

As of this writing, I’m a Level 8 commentator. I love to share good hubs with my followers (and with over 500 followers, this means more reads for you). I follow anyone who leaves a good, thoughtful comment on my hubs. So, let me let you in on another little secret: You want me to read your hub.

So, how can you ensure I do? Well, keep reading.

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Technology, health, fitness and science Hubs bore me

Unless your hub is about how I can increase hub views or income, I likely won’t read your hub if it’s on these topics. Of course, google adsense and search engines love these topics so you’ll have plenty of readers on these subjects… you just won’t have me. They're not bad topics for hubs, they just don't interest me. I prefer to learn about science from television or by application.

Use words properly

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve stopped reading a hub because of the misuse of words. The ones I see most often are these: Breath for breathe, your for you’re, bath for bathe, looser for loser, etc. If you don’t have enough pride in your work to use words properly, I don’t have any interest in reading your work. I’ll forgive these once or twice, but, more than that, it’s a trend and you'll need to consult a dictionary before you publish another hub, and I likely won’t be interested in reading it.

For instance, "I was out of breathe" is incorrect. "I was out of breath" is correct.

"Your a dork" is not correct. "You're a dork is."

Use proper grammar

I’m more lenient with this on poems and stories, as long as it’s evident to me that you are conscious of breaking the rules. I’m not referring to obvious typos. These things happen and I trust that you will catch and fix these after a few edits. Mistakes happen, but mistakes and habits are two different things. I’m talking about those who say “who” instead of “whom”, “is” instead of “are”, use commas instead of periods, etc. Do a little research or consult the Little Brown Book for grammar tips. I keep a spiral Little Brown Book on my desk at all times and I consult it often.

Please note, I’m not talking about style, I’m talking about butchering basic grammar. I know I'm guilty of this at times, so I'm speaking to the choir!


here's a great hub on Grammar... with a quiz!

Use white space

There is nothing worse than a big, blocky hub with long, forbidding paragraphs. I don't like how it looks and may decide to skip reading your hub without reading one word. I don’t mind reading long hubs, but if you’re going to write long paragraphs, you’re going to lose my interest. Odds are, you could cut your paragraph into two paragraphs, create shorter sentences and utilize more white space. This is especially important on long hubs. I. Like. Short. Con.Cise. Sen.Ten.Ces.

White space can also make longer hubs not seem as long. It's a perception thing. I don't want to drown in an ocean of words.

For a great example of how to use white space effectively, check out this hub by Martie Coester

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Not returning comments

Hub Pages is a community and it's as much about relationships as it is about writing and earning a paycheck. If I take the time to leave a thoughtful comment on your hub, you should return it. If you don’t, I’m going to be annoyed and, more than that, I likely won’t go back to your page or reading any more of your hubs. Responding to a comment sends me a notification and reminds me that you have a Hubpage and maybe I should check it out. Responding to those who leave comments on your pages is not only polite, it's also a way to increase readership. Plus, it’s rude as hell not to respond.

I try to always respond to every comment on my hubs within 24 hours.

Really long poems or stories

Poems longer than 250 words are too wordy for my taste, and likely won’t be read unless you’re the world’s best poet. Less is more. Stories longer than 750 words should be broken up into several hubs. if you are serializing a hub, please let your readers’ know up front how many sections there are. It’s easier for me to remain interested in your story and retain info if each edition of your story is short, and if I know how much further I have to read. I never start a book without checking the number of pages. Ditto your hubs. Plus, if you spread it out over several days, you will have people anticipating the release and will gain reads and more views.

That being said, sometimes a story or essay won't be served well by being short or cut up. That's where the use of white space, multimedia (such as videos, photographs and maps) can come in handy. Also, dividing a long story into sections with easily identifiable headings will help. This article I wrote about Kurt Cobain, for example, is rather long, but, it has been divided into several short sections using videos and section headings. It's much less scary to look at then an unbroken wall of solid text.

Write poems and stories

These are my favorite thing to read on Hubpages and the first thing I look for when perusing your profile. Again, this is just a personal preference.


Thanks for reading. Happy Hubbing!


Odds are there is a typo or poor use of grammar in this hub. These are bad habits for me. No need to point it out in the comment section. I will catch it on my tenth proofread.


Thanks for Reading.

A FREELANCE WRITER, HONORS STUDENT AND GOVER PRIZE FINALIST, JUSTIN W. PRICE (AKA, PDXKARAOKEGUY)IS A POET, SHORT STORY, BIOGRAPHY AND HUMOR WRITER. HIS POETRY COLLECTION, DIGGING TO CHINA, WAS RELEASED FEBRUARY 2ND, 2013 BY SWEATSHOPPE PUBLICATIONS AND IS AVAILABLE ON AMAZON.COM, BARNES AND NOBLE AND THROUGH YOUR LOCAL BOOKSELLER.

HIS WORK WILL ALSO BE FEATURED IN BEST NEW Writing (2014 EDITION), AND HAS APPEARED PREVIOUSLY IN THE RUSTY NAIL, EFICTION, THE CRISIS CHRONICLES, THE HELLROARING REVIEW, BURNINGWORD, THE WHISTLING FIRE, SEE SPOT RUN ANDTHE BELLWETHER REVIEW.

HE WORKS AS A FREELANCE WRITER, EDITOR, AND GHOST WRITER, AND IS WORKING TOWARDS HIS PH.D. HE LIVES IN A SUBURB OF PORTLAND, OREGON WITH HIS WIFE, ANDREA, THEIR LABRADOODLE, BELLA, SCHNOODLE, SAUVEE AND BLACK MOOR GOLDFISH, HOWARD WOLOWITZ.

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      RTalloni 2 years ago from the short journey

      Touched a nerve here, me thinks.

      Many in the community agree that being charitable regarding each other's mistakes is the best attitude to maintain, but it is important for all to keep the writes' rights and wrongs in mind. :)

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      Amelia Griggs 2 years ago

      Impressive amount of comments and interesting hub! I don't think I have seen a hub with this many comments..good job and keeping everyone engaged. I'll review your hub links for more ideas. I'm in the midst of the 30 hub challenge so this is timely, thanks for all your tips and ideas. :-)

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      Justin W Price 3 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks runningman and welcome to Hubpages!

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      therunningman 3 years ago from Rhode Island

      I'm new to Hubpages and found this extremely helpful, clearly I have a lot to work on. Thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough review.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks Gypsy. I just picked up a gig as a managing editor for efiction magazine so I have even less time. The less time I have, the less hubs I can read, which makes these points all the more crucial :-)

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks, Jager. That is the key, certainly :-)

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 5 years ago from Riga, Latvia

      Almost couldn't find the end of the line to comment. Voted up and interesting. I always make sure I check with the grammar checker before I post. I also get a lot of e-mail of course not as much as you but right now I can still look at most hubs and I try to read as many as I can and yes there are some on topics which don't interest me at all but right now not many and leave thoughtful comments as well. So your points are well noted and thanks for sharing. Love the picture of that baby. lol

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      jagerfoods 5 years ago from South Carolina, USA

      You've hit the jack pot! It always amazes me how we over look the obvious. The skill of writing about useful content but the art itself. How else can we really engage other readers? It seems I really have to force myself to read more and write less.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Ana, I agree with your points. It's one everyone should take to heart... and it's a great reminder to me to proofread, proofread, proofread :-)

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      mymindseye, i like to share my old hubs every once in awhile for new followers and for those that missed them the first time around. Thanks for taking the time to read this. I hope your back feels better and thanks so much for stopping by!

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      Ana Teixeira 5 years ago from Oporto, Porto, Portugal

      I have to tell you I really enjoyed this hub. You make some very important points. I can't stand long and boring texts and I hate hubs that are just a big chunk of text. English isn't my first language and I usually check a few words to see if I made any mistakes and it annoys me when english native speakers don't bother to do the same. Great Hub... voting up!

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      My Minds Eye53 5 years ago from Tennessee

      I missed this the first time around, glad I caught it this time. The only long poems I write are story telling ones, they take a lot of work, but are worth it if they turn out right. I mostly enjoy short funny poems.

      I have a bad back and can't sit long enough to read really long articles or stories. I read my books in bed, not on line.

      Voted up

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      LOL, Nils. Alright :-) Thanks for reading it, though

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      BOOK REVIEWS 5 years ago from The Low Countries

      Please don't tell my mom I read your hubs.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Karn... I appreciate that. been swamped. Looking for work, writing, doing some public readings, but not publishing as much... But, I am going to be the featured interview in the next newsletter so, look for that :-)

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks for your input, Jennifer. I certainly give latitude to those for whom English is not their first language, as long as I notice effort and improvement. Hubpages is an english language site and, even though it has an international audience, you need to correctly speak the language. So, yes, latitude is given, but I won't use the latitude as an excuse for folks not to improve their language skills.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks Victoria. If someone has a lot of typos and words being misused, it shows a lack of care and if they don't care about the quality of their work, why should I read it?

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Sweetguide... let me know how it goes!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Madmachio, it happens to the best of us. Hopefully this hub will help you stop :-)

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      Karen Silverman 5 years ago

      Lol..well then - i have but one question, sir - Where have you been? Missing ya..

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      Jennifer Essary 5 years ago from Idaho

      Bad grammar can be annoying but when I've read someone's profile and know that English is not their native language I continue to read if the subject is good. Everyone has to start somewhere. One of my biggest peeves is Hubs that remind me of the Charlie Brown school teacher. As I begin to read some Hubs I go into a daze because the Hub is too wordy. I like useful information: Hubs on improving Hubs, food, tips around the house, and interesting topics that make me stop to think.

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      Victoria Lynn 5 years ago from Arkansas, USA

      GREAT hub, PDX! You are right on. When people use the wrong words (your/you're), it drives me nuts. Or numerous typos? Are they writers or what? I really enjoyed reading this hub.Excellent! Voted up and everything else!

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      sweetguide 5 years ago from River side

      good method. I will try it

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      Nathan K 5 years ago from Kansas

      I've been guilty of all those things...DAMN!!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks Brandasaur! Glad I could be of service!

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      brandasaur 5 years ago from Planet X

      Super helpful :) I'll try to apply this to my future hubs!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thansk Dancilla! I'm lad you found this helpful and useful! That's what I'm lookin to do!

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      Priscilla 5 years ago from El Paso

      You make a good point. This hub was great to read. This will help me make my hubs more interesting. Thanks. Voted up!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Sharyn... Thanks for being my 200th comment on this hub. I hope you're feeling better.

      I'd be happy to send you a private message if I notice a grammar or spelling error on your hub. Mistakes happen and sometimes It's hard to catch our own. I welcome you to do the same!

      I agree... it's just hard for me to process and take seriously a poorly written hub. bad grammar and bad spelling really get in the way for me.

      Thanks for coming by, my friend. it's always nice to see you!

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      Sharon Smith 5 years ago from Northeast Ohio USA

      Justin ~ I agree with all the points you have made here. Just before reading your piece, I started one that had a typo in the first sentence. And then another mistake, still within the first paragraph. I really like this writer but had a difficult time continuing when I see misspellings that just shouldn't be. I have to move on because I cannot concentrate on the subject when my brain keeps stopping at mistakes.

      Just another thought, I always want someone to point out a mistake to me so that I can correct it. I am open to receiving a private message letting me know. I guess I wish others would feel the same way. I have sent private messages to others when I see glaring mistakes. Not everyone likes that you do that. So I am reluctant to do so any longer, yet I want people to tell me if they see something in my work. Anyway, great hub, lots to think about.

      Sharyn

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      makemoney146 5 years ago from India

      Awaysome article and i really enjoy the reading about"Technology, health, fitness and science Hubs bore me".Thanks for sharing

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      thanks so much for reading and commenting, Nare. I look forward to visitting your hub. thanks for the follow.

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      Nare Gevorgyan 5 years ago

      Hiii PDXKaraokeGuy! I'm the 198th commenter and I'm not sure if you'll get back to me :) However you have great writing style and nicely covered humor? I like it very much! Well, if you really want to read my hub, then I can say that your job is easy, as I have only one hub :) Have a nice day!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks so much, ironman. super heroes are always welcome here.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      timjetraveer... thank you and I'm pleased that you found this advice helpful. Welcome to HubPages!

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      Ironman1992 5 years ago

      You raise a lot of good points, PDXKaraokeGuy.

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      TIMETRAVELER2 5 years ago

      I found this hub to be extremely interesting. It gave me a different point of view, and I do agree with many of the things you say here.

      As a new writer on hub pages, I have been overwhelmed by all of the different pieces of advice others have given, so I too have to pick and choose. Your advice here was good, and I thank you for it.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      seekingpeace, I agree... and it irks me to no end when I've published a hub or blog and then discover an error n my part. I also can't read a poorly written anything, no matter how great the story is!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      tanks so much mcals. If people can learn from this and write beter hubs, great. everybody wins. if not, this is only the oonion of one man. I very much appreciate your visit and thansk for commenting!

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      seekingpeace91 5 years ago

      Thanks for the great hub! I completely agree about grammar. I'm a bit of a freak, and can't stand seeing errors in my own hubs- I'd actually welcome someone's pointing them out to me!! It's difficult to read hubs that are really poorly written, no matter the captivating topic. Thanks for the info! Voted up and useful

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      mcals71 5 years ago

      So many comments! Looks like everything worth saying has already been said. I will only add that it was about time someone spoke up for good grammar, correct spelling and interesting topics. English isn't my first language, either, so I'm not saying that I can write better than the next guy or gal, but I make a huge effort to avoid at the very least the most common spelling mistakes. I just recently learned how to work with capsules and am planning of going back to my published hubs and break them down into a more easily readable format. It's going to be fun. Thanks for passing on some very useful pointers. Voted up and interesting.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks KittHill. I'm pleased that you found this useful!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks Winbo!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks papa... same with my notifications Its hard to keep up!

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      KittHill 5 years ago

      Interesting hub. I got a few pointers on how to improve my hubs. Thank you.

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      winbo 5 years ago

      awesome hub and I want to read your hub :)

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      PapaGeorgeo 5 years ago

      wow this hub is getting a lot of attention, a lot of my notifications are for this comment section, great job and on climbing to 94points fast!!!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Ditto, rebecca. It's very difficult!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks so much Radhikasree

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      rebekah, thanks for reading, and thanks Princessa for sharing. I await your comment on my Cobain hub. Which book did you read? I personally believe he was murdered by Love, directly or indirectly. Thanks so much for reading!

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      Rebecca Mealey 5 years ago from Northeastern Georgia, USA

      I feel the same rebekahELLE. It's like "SO many great Hubs and and so little time." Loads of talent here!

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      Radhika Sreekanth 5 years ago from Mumbai,India

      Great tips to get more readers to your hub. Not responding to comments you make is more annoying than all others for me. Up, interesting and useful.

      Thanks for SHARING:)

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      rebekahELLE 5 years ago from Tampa Bay

      I saw this shared on the feed by princessa, so I read it. I enjoyed reading it and share many of the same sentiments. Although I do like hubs about science if it's written by someone who really knows what he's talking about. I like just about any subject if it gets my attention from the title or the first paragraph. I don't have a lot of time online, so I try to read only what truly grabs my attention.

      There are times when I wish I could spend a day reading hubs, because there are so many amazingly interesting hubs here. I also love the global aspect with writers from all over the world.

      Nice hub, and I'm going to follow you. I'll have to read your Kurt Cobain hub. I read a book about his life/death which truly intrigued me. Do we really know what happened?

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Dorsi... I agree... that's why I have to be selective about what I read and when. The more followers you get and the more people you follow, the more demands on your time. In addition to other writing jobs and school.. there's only so much time left. May as well spend it reading a well written hub on something that interest you!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks poeticfool. Getting lots of traffic so far, and quite a few nasty e mails. I must be doing something right and hitting some nerves if people take the time to leave me a nasty e mail or comment and, of course, I thank them for their reads!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Kelly

      I'm glad you're busy! Life is good when busy! There's a difference between reading a hub where you know the author proofread and missed something, versus reading a hub where it was the author was just in a rush to get something publish and/or has no conventions of how language works. Since i published this, I've noticed grammar and spelling errors in my own hubs, along with typos. I fixed them. Some people never do, and they will lose me as a reader if it continues. Writing is very important to me and if someone doesn't want to take the time to write quality content, why should I read it?

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      I hope you feel better soon, Barber. It's hard to respond to comments (look at this one... we're approaching 200!). You do write a lot about health, and I've never read one of your hubs on health... but you've written plenty of other hubs that I've enjoyed. Thanks for stopping by!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Martie, I

      I certainly understand that hubpages is for writer's all over the world, but the site also states that hubs must be written in english. English sin't just words, but the contruction of words. While I certainly understand that it's hard to grasp the illogical nuances of the english language at times, I also expect that people writing for an english speaking audience understand how the language works. I find it distracting if they don't. But, again, that's just me.

      I've never found any glaring issues in your hubs, and I read your yours as often as you can. (Also, if you'll notice, I linked one of yours here.)

      I just added a link to the little brown book on amazon in the links, next to the gramamr portion of this hub. I thought I'd enetered it before, but have not.

      It's a great tool. I highly recommend that you have one!

      Thanks for commenting.

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      Dorsi Diaz 5 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

      I like your style and honesty. You say what's on your mind. One of the main reasons I don't read as many hubs as I'd like to is simply time. There are so many things I am interested in and so many great hubs - but only so much time in the day!

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      Martie Coetser 5 years ago from South Africa

      Hi PDX, I've left you a comment, but not sure if you deleted it or not, because it does not show on my profile as not approved. I think something is wrong with my system. I therefor repost my comment, as it is quite relevant and I would love to read your thoughts about it.

      Hi PDX, I am so glad I found this hub of yours pimped, because this is certainly a topic that needs some discussion.

      Because I have only half of a day available for writing and reading, I am always behind schedule. So I've made readers who have left comments on my hubs my first priority. I return their comments by reading and commenting on their hubs. I try my best not to skip any one of them. This can take me up to two weeks per hub. In the meantime many of them had 3-4 hubs published. I can read only one, due to my cramped schedule.

      And then it is high time for me to publish a new hub.

      I see many hubs I would like to read and sometimes a title does pull me in, but if the first paragraph does not encourage me to read the second, I will simply scan the rest of the hub, and maybe I will find something that may encourage me to leave an inspiring comment.

      Re grammar errors. English is not my mother tongue and in my region I seldom get the opportunity to speak English, so I believe I make a lot of grammar errors. I really try not to, and I hope my supporters will correct me promptly via email - or even in the comment section - whenever they notice an error. I sincerely appreciate constructive critique and corrections and suggestions for improvement. Now where can I find that little Brown Book?

      Back to comments. Sometimes a reader leaves a comment on my hubs which clearly reveals the fact that he/she did not read my hub, but left me a senseless comment with the hope I will repay him by increasing traffic to his hub and by blowing his ego with a comment. Whenever a reader leaves me a comment that makes me feel like a fish ready to grab bait on a line, I feel extremely uncomfortable - as if my intelligence are being under-estimated. I can't read such a reader's hubs objectively with an open mind. I kind of see his/her agenda, attitude, inflated ego, or whatever encourages him to leave senseless comments on my hubs.

      After almost 2 years in HubPages, and as an accomplished writer (and in particularly in my native tongue) and also coaching short-story writing, I share all your opinions about reading (and commenting on) hubs and any other writings on the Internet.

      Thumbs up for the proper covering of this issue.

      PS: I wish I had time to read all the comments in here. I am sure they are all very interesting. Maybe I find some time during the coming weekend to read them all.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks Thomas! I know I only have time to read one or two of your stories a month, because they are long. They are also really entertaining and i want to make sure I have time to read it and enjoy it! Thanks for coming back! Also, read cloudexplorer's hub. His take on my comments is very interesting. I link to it above.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Cloudexplorer, I may have misunderstood your previous comment, then, which is sort of ironic, don't you think? I'll head over your way and check things out!

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      Poetic Fool 5 years ago

      Thank you, thank you, thank you! All of this needed to be said so I hope you get tons of traffic as a result. You've hit on most of my pet peeves here. Poor spelling and grammar are turn offs but if I see one, run-on paragraph I'll click away every time. That has to be the worst for me. Thanks for writing what many of us may have been to shy to say. Great job!

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      Kelly Umphenour 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      I love this hub PDX! For so many reasons - first and foremost great content and grammar:) lol

      I have struggled lately to keep up with my hub reading...I have had sick kids, been out of town and my home business has been extremely busy. I know wah, wah:) lol It is my reality right now - time is the only thing I lack.

      It really bugs me to see the silly grammar mistakes, like their instead of they're or there! It won't stop me from continuing to read because I have caught crazy typos of my own but if I see a few then I do get disgusted:)

      Excellent hub and voted way up and awesome!

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      Stacy Harris 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

      I really wish that I could have clicked on a couple options in the poll... but I could not so I was forced to weed out what irritated me the most. Ironically, it is not responding back to the comments... It is ironic because I have about 24 comments right now that need to be responded to that I haven't gotten to because I have been on vacation. (And right now I am really sick so I am not really sure I can leave an intelligient response - I apologize right now for this comment I am leaving as my brain is feeling fried!)

      Anyway - This is a great hub... and you have said things here that I have felt for a long time. If you want to keep me as a reader - write something I am interested in. Although I have to admit - I am a big health freak and write a lot on that topic. However I do jump around a bit! :) Anyway, great hub! I am going to go out and share this becuase you depicted what I have felt for awhile! :)

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      Martie Coetser 5 years ago from South Africa

      Hi PDX, I am so glad I found this hub of yours pimped, because this is certainly a topic that needs some discussion.

      Because I have only half of a day available for writing and reading, I am always behind schedule. So I've made readers who have left comments on my hubs my first priority. I return their comments by reading and commenting on their hubs. I try my best not to skip any one of them. This can take me up to two weeks per hub. In the meantime many of them had 3-4 hubs published. I can read only one, due to my cramped schedule.

      And then it is high time for me to publish a new hub.

      I see many hubs I would like to read and sometimes a title does pull me in, but if the first paragraph does not encourage me to read the second, I will simply scan the rest of the hub, and maybe I will find something that may encourage me to leave an inspiring comment.

      Re grammar errors. English is not my mother tongue and in my region I seldom get the opportunity to speak English, so I believe I make a lot of grammar errors. I really try not to, and I hope my supporters will correct me promptly via email - or even in the comment section - whenever they notice an error. I sincerely appreciate constructive critique and corrections and suggestions for improvement. Now where can I find that little Brown Book?

      Back to comments. Sometimes a reader leaves a comment on my hubs which clearly reveals the fact that he/she did not read my hub, but left me a senseless comment with the hope I will repay him by increasing traffic to his hub and by blowing his ego with a comment. Whenever a reader leaves me a comment that makes me feel like a fish ready to grab bait on a line, I feel extremely uncomfortable - as if my intelligence are being under-estimated. I can't read such a reader's hubs objectively with an open mind. I kind of see his/her agenda, attitude, inflated ego, or whatever encourage him to leave senseless comments on my hubs.

      After almost 2 years in HubPages, and as an accomplished writer (and in particularly in my native tongue) and also coaching short-story writing, I share all your opinions about reading (and commenting on) hubs and any other writings on the Internet.

      Thumbs up for the proper covering of this issue.

      PS: I wish I had time to read all the comments in here. I am sure they are all very interesting. Maybe I find some time during the coming weekend to read them all.

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      ThoughtSandwiches 5 years ago from Reno, Nevada

      Justin...

      You have seemed to of opened up a can of worms on the length thing.

      (laughing) ...yeah..I write long and I always appreciate when someone takes the time to dive into one of them although, I sometimes get worried when they don't reappear for bit. I sometimes think I am going to find skeletal remains within the capsules of some of my longer tales.

      I wouldn't worry or justify your reading habits to anyone as you don't really need to. Perhaps the length issue predominates because it is easier to explain away than my poor grammar skills. Yeah...That sounds good!

      So yeah, I already voted on this one but I will certainly share it like a ________ at a party!

      Thomas

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      Mike Pugh 5 years ago from New York City

      @ PDXKaraokeGuy, I had no problem with your views on reading of other peoples hubs, that wasn't my issue, my hub actually only focused on one particular part of your hub here, and it is about the "Not returning comments" or leaving of comments part.

      Pretty much we both have differing view points on the whole sharing thing. You can check out my hub from off my profile if you like, I'll refrain from posting the link actually, I try to keep that to a minimum link postings in comment area's, just a change of mind I guess.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Krystal... I'm so glad you enjoyed this! I appreciate you stopping by and reading and leaving a comment. Happy hubbing!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Kelley... i agree with you on poems. I understand some of the older bards like Shakespeare and Thomas hardy are very wordy... but, normally, if you need to be wordy to get your point across, it's because you are trying o=to be poetic... and that's lame, imho

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      KrystalD 5 years ago from Los Angeles

      I love this hub because it is honest and well written. I also found it just interesting to read. I agree about grammar and especially white space. The long paragraphs are frustrating to me as well. I think we all have the right to our preferences and it least you made it clear to our community what you are looking for. Ask and you shall receive!

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      kelleyward 5 years ago

      Thanks for this informative hub! I write long hubs at times based on a lot of research etc. I only like short poems because to me poems should be something that reaches out and grabs me and then quickly lets me go.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks for your input, nybride. I appreciate it!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      unnamedHarald, I will do my best to get over to your hubpage and check things out. Thanks so much for reading and I'm pleased that you found this hub useful and interesting!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Keri... thanks so much and I'm pleased that Shasta drove some traffic here! I actually enjoy science... i just don't like to read about it... I prefer to apply it or watch it on television.

      Thanks for reading and commenting!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      cloudexplorer! I'm so pleased that this inspired a hub of your own and I will gladly read it and post it here.

      I will respectfully decline your offfer to rethink my expectations. People are free to read and write what they want on hubpages, but I won't read it if it doens't ineterst me or is poorly written. As a student, professional proofreader and editor, I reader enough material that is poorly written and uninteresting every day. I don't want to do the same thing here on hubpages! Again, this is just my opinion. I love being involved in this community, but I also am not going to read soemthing that isn't well constructed or intersting... unless I'm getting paid or it.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Skittle... I agree! It's inexcusable... especially if you call yourself a writer. If you don't have the technology, hire an editor for goodness sakes. Most of them charge 1-3 cents per word and it's a tax write off. Musicians don't think it's okay to hit a wrong note, why would a writer think it's okay to not spell a word correctly (typos excluded... those can be fixed with a careful proofreading)

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks Thomas. Your stories are long, but you use lots of white space, humor and pictures. Plus, you're a god story teller. It;s interesting to me that people are focusing on the length of hubs section of this piece and not on the others. If it's interests me and it's well written, I'll read it. Why should I read something that doesn't interest me and/or is ill formatted? i don't understand why me having reading preferences makes people angry. Between freelancing, editing and school, I only have an hour or so to read hubs in a day... I'd prefer spending that reading hubs I enjoy.

      Tahnsk for the share, Thomas!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thank you debby. I'm pleased tyhat you're pleased at my willingness ot express my opinion. It's amazing how many people get their panties in a bunch simply because I chose to share my opinion...

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      Lisa Kroulik 5 years ago from Minnesota

      Large blocks of text, either as one long paragraph not having any headers in the story, is my biggest pet peeve. I try not to make my paragraphs more than 125 words long. I also make liberal use of the ability to create headers and new sections when I am transitioning to a new train of thought.

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      David Hunt 5 years ago from Cedar Rapids, Iowa

      This was a refreshing article, PDXKaraokeGuy. It was straight-forward and you let the chips fall where they may. Your interests and peeves make for interesting reading because, as a writer, it's always nice to know what readers are interested in. If you have a moment, I'd be interested in your opinion of any of my hubs (well, at least those rated "best"). If you don't have time, that's cool, too. Voted up, useful and interesting.

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      Keri Summers 5 years ago from West of England

      Congrats on all your comments, I had to scroll a long way down to add mine! I liked your ironic choice of Amazon links for the science section. And other illustrations. Sometimes it's good to read a forthright opinion, and have a reminder of standards! I found you via Millionaire Tips' Favourites.

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      Mike Pugh 5 years ago from New York City

      This hub was truly controversial in many ways so I had to create an entire hub to comment on it, and I'll provide the link to it once I complete it entirely. I understand your position but think you should rethink things a bit about your expectations of others here on hubpages in regards to the reading of your hubs.

      I must say this hub was very well written, and thats what I look for in a hub, no matter the category or title it suggests to the reader.

      I look for overall hub quality, as a hubpages writer of my own written works. Thanks for sharing this hub with us all, and I'll be back soon.

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      daskittlez69 5 years ago from midwest

      That was an interesting hub. My biggest pet peeve is bad spelling. With all of the technology out there nowadays, people should at least be able to spell. Of course, I have a friend that has a doctorate that still doesn't know the difference between there and their.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      WD, I always appreciate your thoughtful responses. Remember, this is just one man's opinion. I read what interests me and generally, no matter the format, i like short concise sentences and paragraphs. However, anything well written, will hold my interest. my biggest issue is gramamr, not the length of hubs though I am initially turned off by really long hubs. If I read your hubs (and I do) then there's no need to come back and convince me that I'm "missing out". I read James a Watkins but i'm not sure if I follow Randy Godwin.

      I appreciate your coming by, but i'm also not sure why a lecture on my personal preferences was needed. I will likely not read an article on the american banking systm because, after following politics and social issues for so long, I am burned out and choose to be blissfully and willfully ignorant. It's way to stressful and depressing to reasd about the country I love going down the shitter. Don't take it personal. Don't lecture me about it. It's just one man's opinion

      Take care my frend.

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      ThoughtSandwiches 5 years ago from Reno, Nevada

      Justin...

      I want you to read my hubs too!! That said...yes my friend...750 words...that would be flash fiction for me...post-it-note shit really...

      I couldn't agree with you more on the comments...please...acknowledge whatever tasteless joke I left as a comment...and we can all just go on with our lives... So hard? I think not...

      A Great Read read which I am sharing like a good book on C block!

      Thomas

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      WD Curry 111 5 years ago from Space Coast

      I have been pondering this hub. You are an influential figure in Hubsville. You should rethink your position and attitude. Excuse me, but I majored in journalism, and have a few years of experience in print.

      The doctor says you are developing a frenetic compulsion . . . “Hubber Frenzy Syndrome”. I am afraid that you are setting an arbitrary standard of mediocrity as others follow suite. 750 words is a letter to the editor in a local newspaper. 1,200 words is a minimal essay or magazine article. 2,400-3,600 words is average. It shouldn’t take more than 10 or fifteen minutes to read a 1,500 word hub. Play the song while you are reading. Why not watch the video? What if someone puts a bunch of songs in a hub about rock music? Should I blow it off?

      There is nothing to gain from whisking through at breakneck speed, except, maybe your Hub Score (designed source of compulsion). HubPages can stand to improve our reputation for quality on searches among non-Hubbers. They pay the bills and deserve good content. Actually, they demand it, or goodbye.

      There are plenty of people writing about pancakes and selling maple syrup. Make room for writers of substance. Some of my stuff will keep you busy all day if you utilize every relevant link. From writing so much about the natural environment and social issues of Central Florida, I am used to school kids using some of my stuff for reports. Here, I accommodate the interested with the option of deeper study. I think this multi-media, interactive magazine format (Mimf) is a gas.

      I have read hubs by experienced and successful Hubbers who claim “at least 800 words” is the benchmark. By your profession, you can’t tolerate the likes of James A Watkins or Randy Godwin (two of the best writers). I have hubs that are only 400 or 500 words. They cover the subject, so that’s all they need. I have a hub that is 2,400. Don’t read it. Stay in the dark about what’s going on in the American banking system. No thanks. I am not going to cut it up. It gets a lot of visits from outside. My hottest hub is 1,800 words. It’s a trip. People have been plugging it for me. I’m not much for social networking, so I appreciate that. I am a production guy, and my real friends keep me busy as it is. I also get some good runs from outside on my short stories. They are three times longer than what you will read. Your loss, bro. They rock!

      I came here to write. I also love to read. I have taken speed reading courses, and can tear it up with good comprehension. Maybe it wouldn’t hurt you to take one if it is painful to read more than 750 words at a swat.

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      Debby Bruck 5 years ago

      Dear Justin - Thank you for your pleasant reply to my comment. I know that you have wonderful taste, explicit opinions and very clear opinions. While there may be others who have an eye for beauty and need for all elements to fit in the proper order, plus a bit of indecisiveness when generalizing or holding an opinion on a piece of art that has not yet been seen to determine an answer. And, in addition not so decisive in having an opinion. Many blessings, Debby

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thank you for stopping by,. It's always good to go back and reevaluate your hubs. but it also takes time and practice to get your enigmatic hub score raised :-)

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      HolyMosses20 5 years ago from Hammond, Louisiana

      Good job, made me go back and look at mine, I see now I should have put some sub-titles and groomed, it was my first. No wonder my score wasn't so hot...I'll get it.

      Thanks for sharing~

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Shinkicker, I appreciate the visit. Thanks so much for stopping by and I look forward to reading your hubs!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Thanks, Amber. Me too... grammar seems to be winning ina landslide.

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      IMogen, thanks so much. Subject matetr is a matter of taste, but it's funny how some people get enraged that you don't like their topics. I'm a poet and a fiction writer, first and foremost. I understand a lot of people don't like to read that stuff. i don't get my panties in a snit, though. I just find my target demographic and continue writing. Thanks so much for reading and commenting!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      sinea, I'll have to check out that hub (I may have already) because I don't know how to have links open in a new window on hub pages. I do on my blog. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      Dancing Water, thanks so much for your perspective. I think one thing that I dind't do well was talk about my own struggles with grammar and spelling. Certainly, there are times when it behooves a writer to break the rules, but, it can be distracting if it's not the right time. Thanks so much for stopping by and commenting!'

      and returning comment sis very important. I've unfollowed people before because they never acknowledged my comment... even generically

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      Shinkicker 5 years ago from Scotland

      Excellent Hub. I'm currently going through my earlier Hubs to check for lack of white space. It was my biggest mistake I think.

      Cheers for the read and the advice PDX

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      Amber Dahnke 5 years ago from New Glarus, WI

      Bad grammar and incorrect usage really kills me, too! Entertaining read, looking forward to reading more of your hubs!

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      Imogen French 5 years ago from Southwest England

      I agreed with most of your points here. Subject matter is of course down to personal taste, but I am also turned off by bad spelling and grammar - I will often not bother reading a hub if it is littered with mistakes. If a person can't be bothered to write properly I can't be bothered to read it! Good points about use of white space too, something I hadn't thought much about. Great hub, thanks.

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      Sinea Pies 5 years ago from Northeastern United States

      Amen, amen and amen! Actually, your poll did not allow me to share what really frustrates me. What frustrates me is a well-written, well laid out hub with great links...great links that do NOT open in a new window. Therefore, the reader just may get lost in cyber-land and not know how to get back to the wonderful hub. That bugs me.

      In fact, I wrote a hub on how to keep readers on your page to help hubbers to set up links to open in a new window for that very reason. Your hub is voted UP and USEFUL. Now, take care of those links! LOL!

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      Justin W Price 5 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

      annart.. thank you. I always get so mad at myself after proofreading and proofreading and then publishing and finding a glaring typo, misspelling or gramamr error. I'm sure I'll be scrutinized even more after this. But, at least I go back and fix it... and I'm happy to have them pointed out (privately of course). Also, if someone calls themselves a writer, words and language are their tools. they should know how to use them properly or risk coming off looking like a dolt!