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What is The Relationship Between Followers and Hub Score?

Updated on January 22, 2011

I'd like to dedicate this hub to N.E. Wright who was asked the question that I'm responding to with this hub.

N.E. Wright was one of the first hubbers to welcome me to HubPages.  It didn't take too long to realize that she follows everyone.  I have two other accounts that she's also followed, and I began to recognize her picture on a lot of profile pages.

In spite of that.  I have to say it's nice to have someone tell you they like your writing and follow you after you post your first hub!

And I made a return visit and read a few of her hubs as well.  She writes a good hub, but not a lot of them.  All of her hubs have good hub scores.  I can't see any reason, quality wise, that her personal hub score isn't higher.

So how can you get so many followers (not to mention write such good hubs) and still have a low hub score?

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There's More Than One Way to Get Followers

A few years ago, when I was first discovering social media on sites like mySpace and Twitter there was this concept of having followers. When you first sign up for these sites they ask you to send an email to all your friends and family and ask them to follow you. Most of my friends and family were still asking why they should use email when they had a perfectly good mailbox right in front of their house.

As you can guess, I didn't get a lot of followers from this email blast.

But it seemed important to get followers. I want to have friends. I want to be popular. (I think that's some leftover PSTD from being in high school and NOT being the most popular girl there.)

So, when some stranger came by and left a nice comment like, "your blog is really cool." or "I agree with that last Tweet." and they followed me or friended me... well of course I friended them back. I even started searching for other people to follow and friend myself.

I wasn't that good at it. Maybe I'm more over high school than I thought. It got boring after a while and I realized that you can't really pay attention to the people you want to follow if you are getting everyone else's feed.

But I was there long enough to recognize the numbe one way to get LOTS of followers is to just follow them. Not everyone will follow you back. It's a numbers game.

It's also considered spam to people who don't play the game. And increasingly, it's considered spam by ranking programs. It's like when Google detects too many backlinks, or worse backlinks from bad neighborhoods.

The HubPages help says (about followers):

You should only follow people who you have a genuine interest in keeping up with.By following a Hubber you are saying that their activity on HubPages is noteworthy or interesting to you. Following excessively or indiscriminately may result in a low Hubber score.

I belive the reason N.E. Wright has a low personal hubscore is that she follows too many people.  And that is probably also how she got so many followers. 

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How to Get High Hub Scores Without Many Followers

The other way to get followers is to write good hubs. I don't have very many followers. It seems like I get about one new follower per hub I post. (As I mentioned before I have 3 accounts and this general rule of thumb holds true for all of them.)

So if you want more followers, write more hubs. Make sure the hubs are something that people will be interested in and enjoy reading. Then they will be more likely to want to be notified of your next hub.

Writing good hubs also has an impact on your hubscore. Writing a lot of hubs not as much.

As CDL Career Coach, I'm taking the HubChallenge this month. That means less time to write on either of my other two accounts. I have about 3 times as many hubs with this account as the other two, buy my hubscore is the same (within a point or two) on all three accounts. I keep the other two for writing on OTHER subjects. One of them is very technical and the other is very opinionated. None of that seems to matter. While I personally feel that the quality of my hubs differs between these pen names I've got set up, the hub scores on my hubs are fairly consistent overall. So with about the same average hubscore on hubs, I've gotten about the same personal hubscore on all three accounts.

It's The Geeks Trying to Get Even for being Unpopular!!

Community participation does not seem to be a very significant factor either. I let all my "alters" participate from time to time, but one barely reads or comments at all, and I don't think has answered any questions or commented on any forums yet. Still, this morning I woke up to discover that my most hermit-like personality was up in the 90's while the other two of us were still in the high 80's!! And she has the least number of hubs too...grrr... I'm jealous of myself!

The point is, the only way to get a really good hubber score is to write high quality hubs.

Write on topics that will interest others. Write longer hubs. 300 words is a minimum, Hubbers with really high scores seem to write longer hubs... 1000-1500 words or even more. I was just reading a hub by WordPlay that was 7000 words long (How to Make Money Writing for Hub Pages). Now, here is a hubber with a 100 personal score writing really great BOOKS full of useful information for other hubbers to learn from. I'm not jealous of WordPlay, she obviously earned what she got.

I am a little sorry for N.E. Wright though. Her hubs are entertaining to read and she seems like a really nice person. I imagine that she was a little like me in high school... just wanting to be popular and not really sure how to do it. I'm sure that her personal hubscore would go up if she would unfollow a few hubbers. I've seen her following hubbers who were obviously writing nothing but spam. That probably hurts her more than the number of people she follows.

So be careful who you hang out with. Try to follow people you admire. Don't just read them, but try to learn from what they do that's working in their hubs. Are they writing longer hubs? Are they writing more advice and how-to than religion and politics? Are they using photos and videos to illustrate their hubs. Try to do the same.


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    • CDL Career Coach profile imageAUTHOR

      CDL Career Coach 

      7 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

      Thanks for your input Danny. I agree, sometimes. I read longer posts if they are really good and grab my interest. It helps though if you break them up with plenty of headers/subtitles for the skimmers. That way they can quickly see if they want to invest the time to read your long article or blog in more detail. I have some longer pieces that have 40-50% bounce rates and 20-30 minutes average time on the page. It depends a lot on your subject matter and who your visitors are.

    • dannycarrey profile image


      7 years ago

      i agree with most of your suggestions but there's one where i can't agree with you - don't right hubs for over 1000 words because no one will read it. My personal experience (beside writing here on hubpages- got only one hub i have 3 blogs :) is that today people doesn't read much and especially when thay see an article for over 1000 words. Make a test write a very long hub and check bounce rate in google analytics - you should see in the next weeks this factor will be near 100% (basiclly seeing so much text people even interested in that topic will leave). these days people wants short, very concrete information about topic they are searching. To sum up if you will write a 1000 words article - it wil be faster for your viewers to leave and find this topic on other sites.

    • CDL Career Coach profile imageAUTHOR

      CDL Career Coach 

      7 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

      I resent the email. It's from a yahoo adress and has CDL Career Coach in the subject line. I think you'll see what I'm talking about when you read it.

      I think you should write a hub about that fight! I can tell your life has been full of adventures and must give you plenty of raw material to work with when you are writing.

    • N.E. Wright profile image

      N.E. Wright 

      7 years ago from Bronx, NY

      Hey, I grew up in the Housing Projects. LOL. Not much of a choice there. LOL. I grew up fighting girls and boys. I did not like it. I just had no choice. I was the eldest. LOL. Had to protect my younger siblings.

      Once I fought a 300 lbs. 13 year old. She was about 5'8". I was 10 years old and weight 80 lbs. soak and wet and was about 4'5".

      Oh, yeah, I won. LOL. I still do not know how I did it, but I did. LOL.

      Thanks, I did not see an email yet though.

      Please re-send it to I will get it for sure.

      I really appreciate your help. It is very kind of you.

      Take Care,


    • CDL Career Coach profile imageAUTHOR

      CDL Career Coach 

      7 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

      Thank you Mayaanjali, I'm glad you found it helpful.

      N.E... thanks for your response. You seem too nice in your hubs to have been running with that popular crowd!! Anyway, I sent you an email, or tried to with some more specifics. You may be following a couple hubbers you've forgotten about.

    • Mayaanjali profile image


      7 years ago

      Very nicely presented and the info was useful

    • N.E. Wright profile image

      N.E. Wright 

      7 years ago from Bronx, NY

      Well, CDL Career Coach, I thank you for this information.

      I must admit some of what you say makes a lot of sense. Still, what happened to my accolades? LOL. Whenever they give me just one accolade back -- for a couple of hours. LOL. -- my score goes up. So, again, I just want my other -- about five -- accolades back. LOL.

      Usually within your own age group you are not the most popular kid if you are the oldest child. I was the oldest, and I hung with popular people. My younger siblings were really popular within their age groups.

      I did hang with some of the most popular kids until I got into high school. The head of popular kids can be disgusting to some in their group.

      When the most popular girl dissed me slightly in front of people I stayed away from them. She tried to get me to hang back with them, but I would not.

      LOL. I did not long to be around popular people in high school, because I grew up with them and in all of the popular groups I have been in -- and there has been way too many. LOL. -- they all sucked. LOL.

      I do not want to un-follow anyone, because I actually print a hub from most of the Hubbers I follow so I can read their Hubs when I get the chance. That is if I cannot read them on the computer, because of lack of time. I have two folders, and I had gone through a lot. LOL.

      The spam thing I had experienced the other day. Some Hubber just left his website in the comments area of one of my Hubs. LOL. I was like "Huh?"

      I really appreciate this Hub. Actually I find it an honor. Thank you so much for your kind words, and your great insight on what could be my problem.

      If anything it will help others. I have a feeling nothing can help me, because I am not going to stop following people it seems wrong.

      I am very happy to be following, and reading your work. I hope I am following all three of you. LOL.

      Take Care,


    • CDL Career Coach profile imageAUTHOR

      CDL Career Coach 

      7 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

      Thanks for commenting B.Matter. I hope you checked out the links on hubscore too. There are a lot of really good hubs out there about this topic... that's how I figured most of this stuff out in the first place.

    • B. Matter profile image

      B. Matter 

      7 years ago from The Midwest

      Thank you for the information. I've wondered how this is calculated and what impacts your score.

    • CDL Career Coach profile imageAUTHOR

      CDL Career Coach 

      7 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

      Thanks for commenting sarclair.

      Thanks for stopping by Simeon. Don't forget you score better when you play the game by the rules...

      Seems like there have been a lot of questions in the last day about following and followers.

    • simeonvisser profile image


      7 years ago

      Yep, you can always review the list of people you are following and remove those that you are not genuinly interested in. Sometimes you gain followers, sometimes you lose some. Although your personal score is just a number, it is good to play the game as it is meant to be played, not by excessively following.

    • sarclair profile image


      7 years ago

      Thank you for the information, this is useful.


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