"Google will find you"

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   CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years ago

   I noted that 95% of my traffic is from other hubbers and only a few hits from oogle, yahoo, etc. in a post when I first started.  I was told that would change in time because "google would find me."  What does that mean? Google has found me.  It's just that its only sending a few people to my hub.  I think this might mean that my rank with google would improve over time so I would get more hits. Is that right? If so, how does length of time factor into SEO?

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I did some more reading in forums.  I think it has to do with how many posts one has on one's subdomain.  the more posts, the more you are likely to be seen.  I'm up to 15 posts now.

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         jansharesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         This is definitely the case, Catherine. The more hubs you have over time, the more traffic, the more your subdomain (and not just individual hubs) will be noticed by Google. You're also right about being patient, especially after only 2 months. I wish you success and happy hubbin'!

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      For an experiment I put "grammar" and "fewer" (which should get you to my hub on the topic into duckduckgo search engine. I got three pages of results  My hub was not included. Then I added my name to the search terms and up it popped. So my hubs are there, just buried deep.

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         Solarasposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Catherine - just a few comments after a quick glance at your titles. No one I think is searching for "the naughty grammarian."  With that in mind I would find out what they are searching for grammar wise and use that as the lead in for hub titles.
         
         For instance "Sentence Structure" gets 14K+ hits a month, you might want to lead in with that instead.  The more hubs you have that address a particular topic people are searching for, the better your Google credit becomes. People do want your info - you just have to lead them there!

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         Rywadsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         If you ever want to check the syntax is "site:(your subdomain)" no space between the site and subdomain.
         
         For me it's "site:rywads.hubpages.com"
         
         That's how you check to see what pages from any website are indexed on Google. No need to do any other searching.
         
         Indexed does not mean it's going to move to the top of any SERPS, though. You have to have backlinks and stuff like that before your pages begin to rank. It's not about time, so don't be fooled. Look into how to rank in Google if you want more concrete information. Time isn't going to do a whole lot other than get you a few extra views. If people like your stuff and link to it, now that's something.
         
         Google evaluates everything based on how many quality links go to it. Period. You can have a website that's 1 month old dominating the SERPS if it has quality backlinks. Time is indeed a factor, but you need more than just time. Your pages will sit in limbo until you get out there and advertise, get links, etc. etc. Hope this helps. I build websites.
         
         Now back in 2012, you could dominate the SERPS (search engine results pages) based on content. Google put an end to that. Backlinks are the only way to get ahead now. Some people on here might have older hubs and still survive based on that old content structure pre-2012. Believe me though, any new website will sit there with no Google traffic until it gets backlinks. That's how it works now. For those lucky enough to have hubs with backlinks that were created before 2012, they will tell you "just wait."
         
         Waiting isn't going to help if you're making a new site. .

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      pateludayposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Greater concentration should be on constantly upgrading, improving your hub.....Google Search algorithms are wavered at the present so knowledge of Seo will be of little benefit. Traffic also depends upon how much the topic is searched online. If lot of hubbers are arriving at your hubs you should feel high. Congrats I would say.

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Recently a well-known professional editor linked to one of my posts on grammar in her newsletter that she emails to people. (Alas not a website.) She praised the article and told people to check it out. She probably knew about it because we are facebook friends. Other than that I don't think anyone has ever linked to anything I have put on the web.
      
      I appreciate the advice.  I'm going to see what topics you are writing on.  Maybe it will give me an idea for the type of thing that is not saturated, yet still of interest to enough people. My hubs on health and quotes are doing best and that is as saturated as you can get.

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   Most of you hubs are in areas where there are already many other well-established websites.  This may be limiting your organic traffic?

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      HP says write about your passions. They also say find high-frequency search terms without a lot of responses.  The second mainly contradicts the first.  I'm writing about things I am interested in and trying to do it better than and different from others. For instance, I've done some grammar hubs, and I used a lot of other websites for research. I'm the only one (of those I saw) using humor.  I also think my stuff is more complete (in some cases) and easier to understand/better organized.
      
      I used B the Great's suggestion (below) and all of my hubs came up in the search, so google has found me.  Also, the stats for each of my hubs show at least one hit from google. I just need to be patient. My first hub was less than 2 months ago. Based on other replies, I think I need consistent posting over a period of time for google to give me credibility.\
      
      Thank you for you help. Sometimes I feel like I am putting together pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.  Every piece is valuable and eventually I will get the whole picture.

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   I checked your profile and one of your hubs and neither has been found by Google.  They were both ranked "N/A".

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      thank you psychskinner What does N/A mean.  What should I do/ How do I check?

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         psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         N/A means google has not found the url
         
         http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php

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   B The Greatposted 10 years ago

   I checked Google and found 2 whole pages for you in the search engines.  I feel the same way CatherineG my stats are about the same %.  To check what is indexed in Google type this in the the search box......site:http://catherinegiordano.hubpages.com/ .  This will give you all of the pages for Hubpages are indexed under your username.  For other sites you simply type....site: and then the http:// web adress.

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      thanks B the Great.  I used the link you suggested.  Google has found all of my hubs (and all of my blog posts too.)  I guess I just have to be patient. I'm getting the impression that after 6 months of regular posting, I may rise high enough in the ranking for people to see my link. 
      
      One trick I discovered is to use "duck duck go" as a search engine. Google customizes searches based on your past internet behavior so my own posts always come up pretty high. Duck Duck Go is unbiased so I can see just how high or low my post is.

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   Maina Ndunguposted 10 years ago

   Catherine,
   My advise to you is to get tips from the hubpages' learning center "How to craft a good title". You should be getting the majority of your visitors from search. If an article is not receiving substantial traffic from Google 6 months after first publishing, then it's not search friendly.

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      It's a little less than two months since my first post. Thanks for the tip Maina.  I guess I just have to be patient.

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         susi10posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Do you have knowledge of SEO?

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            CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I have some SEO knowledge. More everyday.  I thing is I don't know how much I don't know.  I try to red a few hubs each week on the topic.  Some it just goes over my head. Leaves my brain feeling like a tank convoy just ran over it.

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               TIMETRAVELER2posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Catherine:
               
               It takes time to understand what is going on with all of this, but I strongly advise you to try to stay away from topics that are highly saturated.
               
               Even if you use a different angle in your writing, such as humor, your work is very likely to get lost in the millions of other articles about a highly saturated topic, no matter how good you are or how much you know.
               
               Write on some different topics and see how they do.  Those that do well?  They are the ones that can eventually earn you money.
               
               Good luck.

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                  Rywadsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm not trying to slam my opinion everywhere in here, but you are only partially right in my opinion. No matter how saturated a topic is, there is often room for updating. Now, I've taken a look at her Hubs - and you're right. Her topics are very saturated and there's no way to update many of them in comparison to other well-established sources.
                  
                  Basically, if you can take someone else's webpage and rewrite it and come up with what you have - you're failing as a writer. Even if you made your page up all on your own, the internet is huge and you have to think this way. Is what you are saying original or not?
                  
                  Still, people have to notice and care about your updating. Being noticed is the key.
                  
                  Stuff about Grammar is basically everywhere on the internet. Your chances of getting traffic to such a web page are slim, because people can find the same information thousands of other places. No links, no traffic.
                  
                  It's all about being fresh so that you can get more and more links, and in that you are totally correct. If you're going to slam on about a topic that is everywhere on the internet, you need a fresh angle.
                  
                  If people link to it, it starts to get Google traffic. So you are essentially correct.

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                     TIMETRAVELER2posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Rywads:
                     
                     What you said here greatly depends on the topic.
                     
                     In the case of grammar, well, frankly there isn't much updating you can do with that one.
                     
                     If there was, I would be writing about it myself.
                     
                     I used to be an English teacher!!

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                        Rywadsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Have you done anything in particular to get your page views, aside from waiting for Google to index your stuff properly?

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                        CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Funny thing about my grammar posts. I'm not an English teacher. They started because I had a grammar question I looked up.  I figured if I didn't know the answer maybe others didn't either Then I had the idea for humor and throwing in a vocabulary lesson and writing in a conversational style.
                        (A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down.)

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               CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               thank you rywads and timetraveler2. You both give good advice.  Alas, there is nothing new under the sun, at least nothing I can think of. I'm not an expert on anything.
               
               I put every Hub into a facebook, google+ and twitter post. I do it about three times the first week.  And maybe once every couple of weeks after that.  I have five blogs so I do a post about the hub on the blogs as appropriate. (I'm creating my own backlinks.)

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   tlcsposted 10 years ago

   It really confuses me! It's lucky Im writing articles for the fun of it, I havent got a clue how your meant to make any money!

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   SEOSMOPPCposted 10 years ago

   You will have to promote your hubs on different social media platforms.
   you probably also need to diversify content formats and resources and use your hubpages links in those resource.
   So, in my view, using other reputed resources and linking it with hubpages will help you achieve higher ranks in Google. This would give you organic traffic from Google.

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