Why List the Hub and Hubber Scores?

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   lbrummerposted 9 years ago

   Does anyone know why the Hub and Hubber scores are listed for us to see on the My Account page?
   
   We’re told that Hub and Hubber scores really don’t mean anything as far as traffic or value of the hub is concerned, so why are the numbers even available for us to see?  It seems to me that an awful lot of us are paranoid about those numbers, and feel like the fluctuations are caused by something we did or didn’t do. Wouldn’t it be advantageous to all of us, HP headquarters on down, to hide those numbers?
   
   The lineup of our hubs still won’t make any sense, at least to most of us, so we’re not losing anything by not seeing the scores.  The scores don’t tell us if a hub should be edited, or the reason the numbers rise or fall on a given day. 
   
   I just wish HQ would put us all out of our misery and hide the scores.  After all, we do worry about the scores, even if we’re told to ignore the numbers. 
   
   If there is nothing we can do to influence the numbers, why do we see them?  Too much valuable time is wasted worrying about something we can do nothing about.  What do you think?

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      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      If you have a hub score of 95 and a hub score of 65, edit the one that is 65. The hubscores do tell us that much.

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         lbrummerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         The lowest scores are already on the bottom, so we know to probably edit the bottom ones first. We know that without a number being attached.

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            colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Okey dokey!

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      Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Longstanding members including myself, who have periodically or prolifically used this platform to publish creative works understand the fact that there is virtually “ZERO” consistent correlation between “High Hub Score” and “Good Quality”, and likewise, there is virtually “ZERO” consistent correlation between “Low Hub Score” and “Poor Quality” - The same is true of “Hubber Score” - A “High Hubber Score” is not necessarily indicative of a “Stellar” authoritative writer, and likewise, a “Lower Hubber Score” is not necessarily indicative of an “Inferior” writer - The numbers are essentially meaningless as a gauge of “Quality“ or anything else ~ A.P. ~

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      csmiravite-blogsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The hub score confuses me, at times. It goes up and down without me doing anything. There was a time when one hub was given a 100 and that surprised me--- since there were minor errors in it. One of my best performing hubs is at the bottom rung. My thinking is that, probably, the HP  team wants me to update it.

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   Millionaire Tipsposted 9 years ago

   Hubscores are used by the site. They are used to determine which hubs to feature on the topics page and related hubs. They are also used to determine whether links are follow or no-follow, and whether hubs are featured or not.  I want to know what HubPages thinks of my hubs. If I didn't have the scores, I wouldn't know.
   
   And although they do fluctuate, the scores do tend to show some ranking of my hubs from best to worst.  Most of the ones with the lower scores are worse than the ones with the higher scores. This gives me an indication of what pleases HubPages, and what they think pleases Google.  If I agree with them, I can change my hubs to conform to their standards. If I don't, I let them stay with the lower scores, as long as they meet the thresholds..

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      lbrummerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, colorfulone and Millionaire Tips, for your replies.

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   rebekahELLEposted 9 years ago

   Taking traffic out of the rating factor doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  Obviously all hubbers want traffic.  Looking at the way the hub scores fluctuate so much, although taking out the traffic factor, leaves me wondering exactly how they're rated.  Why the constant fluctuation if it's based on QAP? 
   I have a hub at the top right now with less than 100 views for the past 7 days!  I have another one rated in the high 70's that topped over 1000 views in a 24 hour period which also gave me a couple of quality sites linking to the page.  That hub also increased traffic to a few other related hubs that are linked within the content.  But now because traffic doesn't play a huge factor in scores, nothing has changed with my scores.  So I choose to ignore them because they don't make sense to me.

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   CatherineGiordanoposted 9 years ago

   MillionnaireTips when a hub score goes from the high 90's down to the 60's within a short period of time without any edits or changes in traffic, the scores are clearly not a measure of quality or traffic. Consequently, there is clearly nothing I can do to change the score.  Also, I see no difference in quality between my higher-rated hubs and my lower-rated hubs. I don't hit the publish button unless I feel I have done what HP calls a "stellar hub." The scores and the changes in the scores are frustrating and demoralizing.

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   MariaMontgomeryposted 9 years ago

   It is also confusing to me. One of my highest-traffic articles, and 2 of my best in terms of sales, are ranked very low. I have had no sales since moving to HP from Squidoo. Also, on my profile page, the articles that I wrote specifically for HP are consistently at the top (no matter their rank), followed by my lower-ranking ones. My most popular ones are farther down the page -- this seems completely counter-intuitive to me. I would prefer that visitors to my profile page see my highest-ranking hubs at the top of the page, because most people will not scroll all the way to the bottom, expecting to find the best saved for last. Having a descending (by rank) list might entice them to stay longer, or view more of my hubs...

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Hubs in the profile page appear in the order you published them. The most recent hub is always at the top.  You can put the hubs you consider to be your best in the rotating frame of six hubs at the top of the page.  You need to click "edit profile" and then choose the hubs you want to appear there.  I usually try to represent different genres in mine because the "related hubs" feature will show the reader the hubs that are on a similar topic. .

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         psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         In the account view they appear in descending order of hubscore as a default. I take that as a hint....

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         MariaMontgomeryposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Knowing that they are listed in the order published answers my question. Thanks for that information.
         
         I am aware of the rotating frame at the top, and began using it several months ago. Still, I would prefer that my highest ranked / highest trafficked articles be listed first, with date of publication shown near or after the summary. But that's just me. Thanks again.

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   calculus-geometryposted 9 years ago

   Hubscores are frustrating in part because they are more granular than they really need to be.  Given that we don't even know how they are computed, does it really matter if one hub is 79 and another 81?  Why bother scoring them from 1 to 100 (though I suspect the true range is more like 40 to 100) if nobody knows what makes a single point to begin with.
   
   A coarser scale from 1 to 5 would be more useful since hubscores would not jump around so much between levels, and HP could define what each level means in terms of their definition of quality.

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   Huntgoddessposted 9 years ago

   Wow, I've learned a lot here.
   
   You guys obviously all know more than I do. I have also wondered about the scores. Sometimes it seems obvious.
   
   LIke, a seasonal Hub will have more hits during that season, and the score will go up. Other than that, it's all a mystery to me, though.

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   PurvisBobbi44posted 9 years ago

   Since my 100 and 90s hubs dropped to 80s and below after they tweaked the system or did whatever---I have not been encouraged by my roller-coaster ride on HubPages to write anything else.
   
   After the hubs I worked on to improve them only went up a few numbers---I deleted a lot of my poems and put them on my poem blog, because it seemed if you did not write in a niche and chose to do hubs in different categories then you are penalized by low scores.
   
   My hubs are on the first page of Google, but evidently stink on HubPages. ):
   
   So I will wait and see what happens a little longer because I really enjoy the people on this site because the ones I know are great writers.
   
   Bobbi Purvis

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