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Why Hubscores/Hubberscores should either be dismissed or explaine

  1. TessSchlesinger profile image96
    TessSchlesingerposted 5 weeks ago

    There is the oddest of correlations between my traffic and my hubberscore - that when my traffic goes down, my hubberscore goes up.

    Like all of us here, I don't understand the purpose of either the hubscore or the hubberscore. There is no correlation between earnings and scores.  There is no correlation between traffic and scores. Well, there might be a partial one, but it is certainly not consistent.

    Because Hubpages won't/doesn't explain to us what it means, I think they should either discard it. It's just frustrating to see it there and not to know what it means. It's all very well being 100 some days and not others, but why? Why can't I use the data that I would gain from that to my benefit (and therefore to hp 's benefit? Surely, if these scores were explained to us, then we could use that information to improve?

    If hp doesn't want us to know what the hubscore/hubberscore signifies, then I think they should remove it.

    1. ChristinS profile image95
      ChristinSposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      I completely agree and have also brought up the topic which fell on deaf ears.  Apparently our opinions on this don't matter.  I can't stand ambiguity and trying to figure out what people want and this scoring policy has always made me crazy.

    2. JynBranton profile image83
      JynBrantonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      I've always been very confused by what mine mean and like others are saying I don't think it's reflective  of the quality of the work featured. It seems just like it's a random number and I've noticed too it's lower after a span of good traffic

  2. Marisa Wright profile image98
    Marisa Wrightposted 5 weeks ago

    Unfortunately, I don't expect anyone will take your suggestion seriously, Tess.  People have been complaining about HubScores and HubberScores for years.

    In fact, I started a thread asking for them to be retired four years ago:

    https://hubpages.com/community/forum/10 … hub-scores

    The discussion on that thread is interesting.  Especially the responses from staffers like Simone Smith and Derek Gulbranson.  Derek's explanation of the scoring system is refreshingly honest: 

    https://hubpages.com/community/forum/10 … ost2294370

    Interestingly when the thread was reopened for discussion a year later, HubPages admin closed it to replies for no apparent reason.

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image96
      TessSchlesingerposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      Marisa, Thank you. Interesting.

      QUOTE: There are many different kinds of people in this world, and some people will never be interested in whatever metric we offer. That's ok. Some people will be more interested in the underlying data and we should provide whatever we can to help them make informed assessments and decisions. But some people respond much better to an overall metric and trust HubPages to figure out the details. HubPages needs to satisfy the full range of personality types.

      This response is off-topic. The question is not why the hubscores represent what they do, but what they represent.

      QUOTE: but still somewhat useful from a community reputation perspective.

      What I pick up here is that hp believes that community activity plays a strong role in traffic to various articles. So if people who wrote on hp solely in order to satisfy an inner or emotional need, they would also be represented in terms of hubberscore. I can understand that from a business point of view, all traffic is relevant - whether it comes from other hubbers or from the web. "... so HubPages needs to remain a place where all feel welcome " would confirm my opinion that that is what is meant.

      QUOTE: Any metric related to any specific definition of success needs to be clear about what the goal is. For example, renaming HubScore to Traffic Score or similar might alleviate a lot of the confusion since it's currently heavily weighted to traffic.

      Precisely. So why isn't it?

      QUOTE: the current HubScore is kind of overloaded, performing two functions that might be better separated; self-assessment vs. community reputation.

      What???  He has just said that it's weighted towards traffic (which I think is true), but how he says it is weighted towards self-assesment and community reputation.

      So how on earth does a metric measure what I think of my writing, and if I am in the unfortunate position of being an okay writer, but really hideous with public relations (which I am), then I am going to have a low score? I can't help wishing sometimes that I wasn't autistic.

      Basically, I'm sure a lot of us would like to know what these scores meant. I have no doubt that they would affect our behaviour in a positive light.

      I can only say that I believe that HP is reticent to reveal that information because it thinks it will impact negatively on the company in some way. I wonder why.

  3. Ziaullah Khan profile image73
    Ziaullah Khanposted 5 weeks ago

    Let me think for a while !!!

  4. theraggededge profile image99
    theraggededgeposted 5 weeks ago

    How can hubscore be reflective of traffic? I have a hub with a score of 100. It gets very little traffic and only 778 visits since I wrote it in 2012. It always has a consistently high score.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image98
      Marisa Wrightposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      If you look at the official definition of HubScore, it definitely includes traffic as one of the metrics.

      1. TessSchlesinger profile image96
        TessSchlesingerposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

        And yet, on several occasions, when my traffic has gone down, my hubber score has gone up.

        That only makes sense if the traffic of the entire site fell, and mine didn't fall as much. I other words, the traffic is measured comparatively to that of other hubbers!

  5. Jeremy Gill profile image96
    Jeremy Gillposted 5 weeks ago

    I can attest to Marisa's comment (higher traffic = higher score), though of course there are several other factors at play for HubScores.

    Still, it's consistent enough to note the pattern.

  6. stephenteacher profile image74
    stephenteacherposted 5 weeks ago

    My hub score took a drastic drop of 10 points a couple of weeks ago. Other people noted theirs did as well. Have no idea why it is consistently 10 points lower than it had been for years.

  7. UnnamedHarald profile image98
    UnnamedHaraldposted 5 weeks ago

    I would suggest that a hub score of 95 vs a score of 71 is meaningful. One is obviously doing something better or worse than the other. But trying to divine what causes a score of 92 to rise to 96 or drop to 89 is a waste of time and basically meaningless.