What to do in such case? HUBPAGES copied

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   nilumposted 15 years ago

   Hellow Readers
   Thanks for your time in advance.
   Some days ago my brother decided to publish only islamic hubs and he got a local book which has approx 9 chapters and 10,000 topics inside, He typed whole night and published 9 hubs at the same time and then after publishing he realized that hub pages says that 5 of the 9 is copied; then he searched on internet and found that that book is available in internet but a very very minor part..
   chapters are completely available in website format and about 100 topics are available but other are not, he has workded hard to type very much of the book; he also doesnt want to delete the hubs because of his work and he's also worried that hubpages is saying its copied :-(
   
   What should he do in such case ?
   Help me out plz/

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Hubpages is saying it is copied because it is copied. Not really seeing how you can call copying a bunch of religious ramblings as "work," though.
      
      Hubpages will always penalize hubs that have been stolen from elsewhere, but unless you are selling something with links I do not think they will force you to delete them.

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         nilumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         But Mark
         The book is published by local author and the person who has typed and gave it on web is also copied from that book, the book is not copy right of any one; actually he's worried that he need to re type or  change the words and it would take a lot of time

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Oh dear - well if your brother doesn't want to spend any time doing any work he is going to have to accept that some one else stole the work first and beat him to it.
            
            And if it is a published book - why is there no copyright?
            
            Either way - if it is already published on the internet - hubpages will penalize you for reproducing the same work again

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               nilumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Its not copy righted because its islamic Book and the Author aimed to spread the knowledge of Islam everywhere.. Well; mark, as per my perception you have great knowledge about Hubpages, What would happen if he doesn't listen to me and publish the remaining he typed
               2ndly i want to know how can i have amazon account and also ebay?
               how does they pay?
               and one more thing i would like to ask you
               I have seen many persons on hubpages who has profile with buttons like featured hubs, favorite hubs. after how many hubs i can have it?

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Great - another religionist intent on spreading the good news by reproducing the same stuff over and over and over until some one cracks.
                  
                  Like I said in my first answer - you will be penalized but I do not think hubpages will force you to delete them unless you are trying to make money from them.
                  
                  If you are, as I think you are - based in Pakistan - I very much doubt you will be able to open an Ebay account. Probably not Amazon or Adsense either.

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                     rizraziposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Mark
                     You must not laugh at anyone's feeling about spreading it's religion..

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                        Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        Why not? I work for the One True God - FSM. 
                        
                        Ramen.

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                           rizraziposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           True God is inside yourself
                           you may refer to my hub; find God within you

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                              Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              LOL - I am not interested in your religion. In fact, I find it mildly offensive that your only purpose here is to spread your bronze age beliefs amongst good God-fearing Pastafarians.

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                                 rizraziposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                 Look Mark
                                 I respect you because my religion says,
                                 2ndly
                                 I don't say your religion is wrong and i also say that no one has right to say that my religion is wrong ..
                                 I just told you what i believe.. and nothing more..
                                 Sometimes we think from mind; sometimes we think from heart, and we always don't know what is right or wrong.
                                 So; Allah knows better & Allah has told to all the religions in their books as they were sent to earth.
                                 Jews & Christan are also religions of God but the last was Islam.. Look Mark; My dear, i don't have so much knowledge to convince you that i am saying right.
                                 You may listen the talks of Dr. Zakir Naik to increase your knowledge not about only islam but also about other religions

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                                    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                    I respect you also. But - My religion came after yours and is therefore The One True Religion.
                                    
                                    You must bow to the Will of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, who has seen fit to Show Himself to me. Put aside these silly notions, learn to accept the Truth. Drink wine (Barbera D'Asti) eat Pasta and be enlightened.

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                                       wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                       I LOVE FSM website.  How true, how true.  I try to avoid these posts, but I am so pleased you know about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. 

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                                       rizraziposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                       I don't want to discuss on these topics that i accept your religion or you accept my religion because i know what is right or wrong; My Allah told this to me in Qur'an the Last book with Last religion sent by Creator ..
                                       History of Islam & Quran tells us that Prophet Muhammad and other Prophets (May Allah be pleased with them) was the selected persons by Allah and they are the messengers
                                       
                                       Thanks!!!

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                                       rizraziposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                       Mark
                                       Tell me about FSM
                                       Its basic details
                                       beliefs and others
                                       I want to know about it
                                       When it was invented etc?
                                       History
                                       And other information

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                                          Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                          Like any good religion, my god - FSM, has Spoken into Law all the things I already believed, and has come to sweep away the false political religions such as yours - which I respect, but is completely wrong.
                                          
                                          A few examples of the rules:
                                          
                                          1. Be kind to monkeys. They are our close cousins and but for the grace of FSM go we. Just another non-sentient branch of the evolutionary tree.
                                          
                                          2. Women are equal but different to men. They may - and I know this will be a shock to you - travel further than 48 kms from their home without the supervision and permission of a spouse.
                                          
                                          Fortunately, FSM chooses to touch us with His Noodly Appendages in a non-sexual way (unless that is your preference) if we are open minded enough. You can find more truth and facts about The One True Religion here:
                                          
                                          Flying Spaghetti Monster

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                                    beigeallenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                    Actually, though the US government does not have the right to endorse an official religion, anyone and everyone in the US has the right to tell you that they believe your religion is wrong, your tactics are wrong, and that you are wasting your time trying to convince anyone otherwise. The freedom of speech protects that right, while the freedom of religion does not protect you from anyone believing you are full of beans on any topic.
                                    
                                    You have just as much right to tell others the same things.
                                    
                                    However, with all these people exercising their rights, they keep going around in circles because only the pastafarians seem willing to slide left every once in a while.

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                  rizraziposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  I agree with you
                  Look, if your brother's aim is to spread Islamic knowledge then why are you or your brother  is worried of it that content is copied or not?
                  As Mark said that you will not be able to earn with Ebay, Amazon or Adsense - leave the earning motive from your mind and do what is your Aim ..
                  I mean post those hubs, even if hubpages delete hubs of your brothers; before deleting at least there must be one visitor of those hubs.
                  Right ?

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   scheinandrasposted 15 years ago

   Change them to his own words, so they won't be copies anymore

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      nilumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      But it would take much time, what if he publishes those hubs even hubpages says its duplicated?

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         rizraziposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         If you are worried about time then publish them as it is or if you want to publish then don't worry
         Look
         You have two ways.. Select any you want

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   Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

   To get back to the original question. The content was not original and unique, it was written by someone else, and obviously it has already been put on the web. Therefore, HubPages will flag it as a duplicate.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That is what I told him. Then he tried to convert me.

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         Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Come on...you know keep down you want it

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   diplessposted 15 years ago

   yet another HP forum thread turned into religious debate oh will it ever end However got to love the FSM

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   frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

   dipless - I don't mind religion. It's a part of life.
   
   But as an individual - and using my right to speak freely - I am getting a little bit cheesed off with all the religious topics. It's actually becoming boring.
   
   There's a big difference between 'faith' and 'zealot'. And it's the same between 'share' and 'force'.
   
   And in case anyone's thinking to get their knickers in a knot, please don't waste the effort. I'm not poking, I'm stating a fact.
   
   It would be far nicer if those that had faith shared their opinions and thoughts - as opposed to persistently posting fanatical diatribe.
   
   And one last thing. The word 'bigot'. It keeps being levelled at Mr Knowles. Unfairly in my opinion. He doesn't force his opinion. He expresses it. That's not bigotry.
   
   *wanders off to put her dictionary away*

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   diplessposted 15 years ago

   frogdropping - I totally agree with you, religion is a part of life and my B/F is very religious and we have debates about the merits of each belief system...just not every day! Oh and dictionary is really helping
   
   As you have already stated it is great and interesting to have a debate about peoples different belief systems, it just seems to me that the problem is people on here are unwilling at times to listen and respond constructively to peoples questions and arguments.
   
   Many a time I have seen a question such as "in the eyes of God is abortion ever acceptable" Then when people put in their opinions they are ridiculed for them rather than argue their case they decide on personal attacks... normally because they are unsure of how to debate back!
   
   I mean how many of the forum threads are on a topic such as "are we all gods children?" "Does god think abortion is a sin?" "Is masturbating a sin?" They all seem to have the same goal... for religious types to quote scripture and try and preach then the non-religious types to say no thats not true we should all be pro-choice and yet again it dives into personal attacks and preaching!
   
   If we all just debated our points rather than attack one another, or just left such topics to the occaional threads, because we all know they are going to result in arguments and deal with some meatier topics.
   
   We all KNOW there are different belief systems why do we need to argue the same point in 50 different forum threads!
   
   Sorry thought this was going to be a short post but it turned into a hub

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      frogdroppingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      One word dipless - bigotry.
      
      Which as I pointed out is something often thrown at the wrong guy. It's that as much as anything that ticks me off.

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   Whitney05posted 15 years ago

   Back to the original questions. It is copied work no matter how long your brother took to copy it, it's still copied. All books are published to release information to others, and they are all copyright books. This book that you/your brother/whoever copied to publish online was probably copyright as well. It will be penalized by HP as it's copied and copied elsewhere on the internet.

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