How do you recycle non-HP writing?

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    pgrundyposted 9 years ago

    I had the idea to slightly rewrite articles I do for another site and link both to each other (the other site to HP and HP to vice versa) but I apparently didn't rewrite them enough because one is now flagged as duplicate. I deleted it even though the flag said I could leave it up but it might hurt my hub score.

    I'd like to find a way to use an article I've worked hard on more than once without penalty.

    Does anyone have a formula for this that works?

    Thanks in advance for any advice. smile

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        You don't only have to rewrite. You have to add content. And change the place of the  paragraphs. Change pics and stuff. And it works. I've done it smile

    2. darkside profile image80
      darksideposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Go through the article, rejigging each line if you can. Adding more thoughts as you go along too. Is there any other information that you know that hasn't been mentioned?

      Then put it aside for a day or longer. Then come back and rejig again.

      Repeat that a few times and who knows, you may end up with a completely different article.

      But it only needs 2 or 3 minutes (depending on the length) to go through it for a quick edit. But the important thing is when you're not looking at it and allowing yourself a fresh look each time.

      But I wouldn't link rejigged articles to each other, the chances are people are only going to see the same content, but rehashed. If I were republished rejigged articles I'd only be publishing them on different sites with links to another article that's of the same theme, but completely unique.

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      sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Actually yes I do!  Misha taught me it.  It goes something like this... give me a second to write up a good sample spin. big_smile

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 9 years ago

    Honestly I wouldn't do it on the web. Despite what others have said, I do think you incur search engine wrath when you do it. If not now going into the future.

    I've blown away some money maker webpages, when I duplicated them onto another site. Revenues dropped within a month to zero, and didn't come back in two years. I finally just gave up on the sites.

    But others here have disagreed with me, so maybe it's worked out for them.

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    pgrundyposted 9 years ago

    Thanks for that. That's what I wanted to hear--a personal story from someone else who had tried it. I've only done a couple so I guess I'll just take them down. smile

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    pgrundyposted 9 years ago

    darkside, that makes sense. So far only one got flagged--I did what you suggested on all of them. If the others get flagged I'll take them off and rework them then link them to different content, not the same reworked article.

    I was think also of recycling some of it to print publications. I know it's slower and harder to do but nothing prevents that really, and it wouldn't mess the ad revenue online.

  5. sunforged profile image75
    sunforgedposted 9 years ago

    I dont know what percentage or algorithm hubs uses for its duplicate tag but im sure its close to most search engines filters

    heres a write up of a good experiment

    http://spunwrite-blog.com/2007/07/05/av … eed-to-be/

    and heres dupecop to help you see what your own percentages are

    http://www.dupecop.com/compare-spun-articles.php


    Since you like personal experience - I have articles (not spun,jigged or changed) that have positions 1,3, and 7 for certain keywords - complete duplicates, diff titles, but have varied lengths (excerpts)

    Im thinking the expereince above was probably just not an evergreen topic, it had its moment at the top, lost footing to newer articles, articles more fully indexed/optimized etc. It happens, one duplicated result would not cause that

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    pgrundyposted 9 years ago

    Wow. Now I'm completely confused, or rather, I'm right back where I started which is something like, "Writing for the net is a gargantuan crap shoot!" LOL!

    Seriously, Three people, three totally different answers and experiences. But that in itself is information.

    The first link about the percentages was fascinating--especially the part about two completely different articles coming up with duplicate content of 20% or so. Geez.

    It's all nuts. I write for other people, and sometimes they provide me with links for 'research' and they'll be Ezine articles that make NO SENSE, I mean, they're like sub-4th grad writing with NO CONTENT--and they're like, "here you can use this for ideas for content." What content?

    Thanks. I feel way better now. I do. big_smile

  7. sunforged profile image75
    sunforgedposted 9 years ago

    Im pretty much with darkside, if your going to put even 15 minutes into it and you already have the knowledge in your head. You can create fresh content and not worry about percentages in the same amount of time it would take to just tweak

    (if you are the original writer, and are a writer)

    The spinning and percentages stuff is really for people who rewrite others content and PLR's

    But as far as Serps go - do you have a plr article? put an excerpt into google, youll see positon 1-10 are all the same article at 10 diff sites

    People seem to think they will be automatically sandboxed because someone misread duplicate content rules and keeps repeating it.


    So, I recycle, I write complex/academic papers for constant content and demand studios following all style guides. Then while its fresh in my head I use that to write a more informal hubpage - I usually regurgitate some utter crap and sell it to Associated content, and then even take paragraphs and teasers, incorporate a diff title and a little introduction and add it to my relavant sites

    which might take 2-4 hours - but usually results in 20-30 guaranteed payment - then profit potential from Ac and Hubs..plus whatever value it adds to my sites

    Going back and rewriting an old article would be just as tough as writing from scratch for me

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    sandra rinckposted 9 years ago

    Using Jetspinner http://www.jetspinner.com/index.php

    What you would do is take the two articles you have already written and substitute words and phrases such as "love" and in your article you would do something that looks like this:

    I {love|adore|cherish} life.  Though I haven't done one in a long time, what the jetspinner does is scramble all the added words into the articles to avoid duplication.

    There is a bit more to it then this but entirely worth doing if you have a few hours or so to devote to working in new words and stuff.  Anyways, then you can get 50 articles out of two articles or 1 article that you can then submit to your sites.

    Now I am not sure what Misha used to check for the percentage of duplicate content but if I can remember right, the articles submitted were at about 75% original. 

    Maybe Misha would chime in here because I can't remember all the details.

 
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