What general rates do most of you demand ?
I freelanced also and usually didnt accept much under 20USD per original 500-750 word article, but bidding and communicating with the clients ended up being too time intensive for me to continue as being worthwhile for me.
I am part of a specialized web design/hosting business and client base is getting to large for me to wear all the hats anymore.
My partner wants to bring in a friend who is a Copywriter and is asking 20/page. I dislike this model (What is a page?)
I like writers, I dont want to not pay well, but I feel I can get much better writers for a better rate. Im guilty of undercharging to my clients since I know there budgets, but Im spread to thin
So people who are experienced with writing About/Services/etc. you know, standard Business pages (we work with start-ups in the holistic health market) what type of rates are you used to being offered or seeing in the boards.
Im very familiar with the boards but Im usually a buyer, and I stick to very low priced writers and just rewrite the content for my niche sites.
How much are the writers that I wouldnt have to edit worth?
I charge $40.00 an hour, minimum. Sometimes I can get $75.00 an hour, depending on who the client is.
Some clients want to pay per project, depending on what it is they need. To custom-write a page, the rate is $25.00 (which is cheap). To edit a paper (10 pages) the fee is $50.00. This includes revisions, Word mark-ups and formatting, if needed. To custom-write a 500-word article (web content - non keyword), the fee would be $50.00, which works out to $25.00 an hour, which is at the entry-to-mid level for professional writers. Everything you get is flawless because it is fully edited and 'tested' before it ever gets back to you.
I never charge per word, and if anyone wants to go that route, I don't take the project.
If you're looking for a low budget writer, I'll write at a rate of $1 for every 100 words for the first 500. Additionally, no extra charge if I happen to go over 500 words without a specific request.
I wasnt specifically trying to hire via this thread, Im more interested in what experience others have had being hired as a writer and how they feel about the rate that was offered to me.
This isnt content writing that involves research, its not SEO writing ( I can optimize if need be) its just simple bios, historys and service explanations for small businesses in the health/natural fields - the content is mostly written by the business owners when they expalin what they want, we just rewrite to a higher standard, add calls to action if necessary etc.
But I am saving your info, ediggity
From the other side of the keyboard your question has really not been asked J.
I certainly know what I would talking about for site writers!
So what specifically are you asking here?
Missed your email btw.
Ill jump on the reply, pearldiver, its mostly drafted already.
As maybe you see from the thread I am spread a little thin right now.
What question hasnt been asked, is my rambling unclear? I havent slept yet today (its 1230pm here) so I may be getting incoherant.
Im not talking about writers like us at hubpages (although Im sure many wear both hats) I dont need somone who can write about anything, or knows seo writing...just someone who can translate the garble dthoughts of a business owner into a competent couple of paragraphs. For example I know PRGrundy and Sufidreamer do alot of freelance writing, so I was hoping for some feedback into that world.
I do all my freelance via alerts, i just get emails that fit my fields and min pay level, I dont scrounge through hundreds of pages o f listings, so I am a little out o fthe loop as to what industry averages are for competent writers
Sure... Who would want to bid?
I think with your time variants you may have missed Pam & Sufi.
You wanna bleet about no sleep? MG it's 5.40am here & I'm sill going from 3.00pm yesterday
LOL, than we are in the same boat, 1230 pm from 2 pm yesterday.
so Im on, 22 hours, no sleep yet.
Im not looking for bids, Im looking for info to bring to my partner, so I can say, 20/page is a ridiculous price, look at these excellent writers who charge X/rate.
I dont think I could afford Sufi or Pam, just examples of Hubbers who know the systems over there and average rates in general. I will probably end up with someone more local who I can at least afford to call if need be!
hell, i charge 20/page minimum too, but I cherry pick what I want to write about and page has a definite description, this writer that has brought the issue to my attention wants 20/page (no description of what pages means)
I feel like this type of job is much easier(the one I need to fill) and would be happy with 20-25/hr, with expectations on output or 1-2 per 100 words, but I may be way off base as to what industry standards are.
So new question, What are industry standards for easy non-optimized content? How are you qualified to know what that standard is?
Come to think of it, I should probably ask Julie-Ann Amos
Don't know for sure if this info is relevant to your inquiry, but in case it is:
About 400 words per average sized book page. Depends on font, font size, etc. Many businesses have a standard number of words per page based on internet publishing, calculated using a nonserif font such as Arial, at about 10 points.
You can get a better idea here:
Only just saw this - I have been working all day.
Generally speaking, for non-academic, minimal research work, I look for about 3 - 5 cents per word, depending upon the size of the batch. With this, you have to bear in mind that I have a lower cost of living, no rent or mortgage, and very cheap health insurance. Mind you, the weak dollar is not helping non-US writers.
So, to answer your original point, I would say that 20 - 25 dollars for 500 words is reasonable if you are employing a US writer - it is about the going rate, although you have the right to expect excellent quality for that price.
If they are cheaper, you have to ask yourself 'why?' A 500 word article takes up to 2 hours to write, if done properly, so $12.50 per hour is fair, especially as they have to pay their own health insurance.
A writer is surely worth more than a burger flipper (no disrespect meant to our hard-working fast food employees).
Hope that helps!
EDIT: Of course, you could also look at our Filipino friends - there are some excellent writers from that country and they are another good option. Maybe Emie can help you with that
I write per bid depending on the size of the project or by the hour(including research time)and nowhere close to the $12.50 per hour number quoted further up.(better multiply 5 or 6 times)
Pennies per word is a waste of time and method to buy writers cheap.....quality writers will laugh at it and pass right by.
Good for you!
I should have clarified that statement - I was going by the average prices on oDesk - $12 to $16 dollars is about the median p/h for a good, non-specialist writer on there.
That is the joy of an international marketplace - non-US writers are generally much cheaper (myself included). I would hope (although it is not up to me to decide) that I do not offer poor quality
If you are talking specialists - Most of my work is academic or technical - For that, I do charge considerably more
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