Rating Hubs up or Down

1. 59

   mel22posted 14 years ago

   I'm tired of reading all the way through a hub ,finding it to be mediocre and only stuck with the choice of Up or Down. I shouldn't be forced to participate in artificially rating  the article up if it was not a REALLY good article and at the same time why should I be forced rate it down if it was not complete crap.. i've found many articles not worth boosting but not worth burying either. So I find I have to leave not being able to participate in rating many articles. I think the system artificially boosts articles that are not great. Ive seen some really great and really Horrible articles too. Can't we get a better Hub rating system like rate one 0 to ten then add the numbers and divide by the individual votes to get a number average like now but more  worthy of the actual hub score it should be!
   
   Author score has its own algorithm - I'm only talking about Individual Hubscore. Throw out a certain percent of the highs and lows also so people that you've irritated or have irritated you cannot go to all your hubs and rate them down solely on their attitude toward you or simply because of a differnce in political view in the forum posts!
   
   Good Idea?
   Bad Idea?
   or Fair to Midland?     (Middling for farmers west of the missisippi)

   replyreport
   1. 0

      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      how is changing the rating system going to prevent malicious people from rating you down? they're still going to do it anyway, only instead of clicking the Down button they will just give you a zero rating.

      replyreport
   2. 0

      Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Why rate it at all if it did not teach you something?

      replyreport
   3. STAFF

      pauldeedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      In my experience, when you give people the choice of 1 to 5 stars or 1 to 10 rating, the vast majority of the ratings will still be at the extremes.  Most people just ignore the middle values.  That's the reason we've only provided two choices.  What I'd suggest is, if you don't feel strongly about a hub either way, just don't rate it at all.

      replyreport
      1. 70

         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Agreed! Thank you Paul Deeds!

         replyreport
2. 63

   Has_aWayWithWordsposted 14 years ago

   I say great idea

   replyreport
3. 59

   mel22posted 14 years ago

   I thought so too , but we'll see what others have to say, Buckeye! typing buckeye is easier than typing has_awaywithwords LOL

   replyreport
4. 0

   khmohsinposted 14 years ago

   it seems ok, but I do not think that single or few Up/Down Ratings will count much. I think persistent Ups and Downs would have an effect on the ranking/score of Hubs. So the current option is not bad either.

   replyreport
5. 88

   IzzyMposted 14 years ago

   I think that would be a very good idea, except it would be difficult for most people to rate from 1 to 10.
   Maybe a third choice, a not up or down, just an OK.
   No on second thoughts I would rather people didn't rate it that way either.
   Down if it's really bad, up if it's really good, middling I don't rate it.

   replyreport
6. 70

   ddsurfscaposted 14 years ago

   I think that up for good and down for bad, and just add one more for average, nothing that special.

   replyreport
7. 60

   readytoescapeposted 14 years ago

   Up or down, seems fine, I never find myself required to act. If I choose to apply to UP arrow for an article, which I do at times, but only if I read and enjoyed or learned from it.
   
   The action is my option. I have never used the Down arrow, since if the article is that bad or uninteresting I never get to the bottom of it. A click of the back button and I’m gone, off to someone else’s hub.

   replyreport
8. 63

   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   Suited me just fine so far. I am here not for rating

   replyreport
9. 57

   Dame Scribeposted 14 years ago

   I don't know why rating is so important to others and especially the rating down one I still think HP should monitor those actions to see if people do it out of malice since that is a concern.

   replyreport
10. 0

    Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

    Hubscores do have their own algo. I'm sure that an individual hubber's up or down has a small impact.
    
    I have hubs that I write under other identities that have had no HubPages visitors ever. There scores have acted just like the hub scores of hubs that get lots of traffic.
    
    I've never worried about my hubber score or hubscore - just money - and that seems to be working fine.
    
    Damescribe I'm with you I don't get why people spend so much time worrying about it. And I bet if you go on a spree marking hubs down, without merrit, it goes against you.
    
    I have to admit after someone hounded me about my hubs being substandard and leaving negative comments about rating my hubs down a few months ago, that I really started working on my other identities. Just in case someone could harm my income stream. But the "Nelle" hubs didn't seem to be hurt by that that at all.

    replyreport
    1. 61

       Jane@CMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I agree.  I use to look at my scores all the time!  As long as they are being read - that is great.  I'm here for the writing platform, some hubs are aimed at making money, others are not.  I'm sure if you are consistently rating one specific hubber's hubs down out of spite, the Hub Team will catch up to you.  In their newsletter they specifically pointed out two people who do a good job of finding spammy hubs, so I'm sure they know who if someone is doing a malicious rate down of someone's hubs.

       replyreport
11. 60

    flread45posted 14 years ago

    Rating doesn't make you money..

    replyreport
12. 57

    Dame Scribeposted 14 years ago

    I think you write great Hubs, Nelle. Least you're honest and upfront with your goals and hard to imagine somebody going after you like that. Hope all is well now.

    replyreport
13. 57

    Dame Scribeposted 14 years ago

    Thank you, Mr. Paul I heartily agree

    replyreport
14. 63

    Has_aWayWithWordsposted 14 years ago

    Personally I think having a rating scale is a good idea and if used properly it could give us all a little feedback on how to make our hubs better. That should be the point in ratibgs anyway, overall improvement.

    replyreport
15. 60

    readytoescapeposted 14 years ago

    It would be nice to see those ratings. It may be there and I haven't seen or found it yet.
    
    But if you could see those up or down indicators, for example, how you can see it if you have answered a question someome has asked, it could be a good indicator as to how your material, is recieved, when compared to total page views.

    replyreport
    1. 72

       relacheposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thumbs up and down used to be displayed on the stats page, but authors became so obsessive about it, those stats were removed.
       
       I tend to think it's such a small component of calculating HubScore it's not worth worry about.  After all, it seems like a majority of Hub site users say they never even bother with giving ups or downs.

       replyreport
16. 59

    mel22posted 14 years ago

    well, thanks for the feedback. Reason for asking was because I feel I'm not able to participate in rating which makes me not look as active on the site and hurting author score. I thought the reason for rating was to keep author score up above a certain level to keep spammers out and letting DOfollw links go to the ones trying to produce good articles. If theres no point to the rating system why even have one then.
    
    Paul ,i do see your point on many people just hitting the ten or the one, I just personally am not one to give a gold medal to everyone such as the double gold that canadian skaters got in the olympics. The "everyones a winner"  mentality is just not me. I guess i'll just not rate than.
    
    Not obsessing as some are saying - its not like i'm pulling my hair out over it, just trying to see if anyone else thinks it would be ok ,but sounds like no one pays attention to the rating system anyway. the malicious rating was just an afterthought. Peace out!

    replyreport
17. 68

    Kind Regardsposted 14 years ago

    I like the Up arrow.  I like being able to say, "Hey, this was good.  You deserve credit."  I never use the down arrow.  Just not my style.
    
    A numbering system would be the same thing for me.  I'd just hit 10.  I'm not much of one to ever want to criticize another.  If I don't get much out of something, I just don't click anything.
    
    So either way, it works for me.

    replyreport