Can we do a hub that groups a whole lot of other hubs together?

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   TessSchlesingerposted 5 years ago

   Long time ago, we could put our hubs into categories. I can't find anything for that anymore.
   
   Can I write a hub that briefly details my ideas about business and capitalism and then link it to all my hubs in that category?
   
   I think I'm done with wrting about business and capitalism. They never do that well for me. So I either want to group them or delete them.
   
   Are we allowed to do that?

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   lobobrandonposted 5 years ago

   You can, but it will not be moved to a niche site, because on the niche sites the hubs need to be able to stand on their own and the reader must not need to click away to get what they actually came there for.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Okay. Then can we write a hub that is actually an article, but just happens to have to or three referrals to other articles one has? That used to be the the way to do thing about 2011.

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         lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, if the topic comes up naturally link to your other pages. This is accepted. My tomato hubs are interlinked and they are on Dengarden, so I don't see this being a problem.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Okay, thanks. That is helpful. I will have to think about it. My business and capitalism hubs don't do as well as others. I'm trying to figure out why.

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               lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               How are they ranking for the keywords you wish to rank for?

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                  TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  The thing is I wasn't keyword savvy on these hubs at all. This is mostly though I understand busines very well (I grew up n my parent's business which was quite large), I've never had much of an interest in it (I'm a sort of geeky, nerdy, science person), so I never know the latest buzz words. I'm going to take a long hard look at them over the next week and then make some decisions.
                  
                  I might just have to delete some. Or probably rewrite them. Generally, I look for keywords (or rather key phrases - longtail keywords) at the bottom of google and try to incoporate them. The days when Google gave you free use of their toos are long gone!

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                     wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I have one hub that is basically a "table of contents" to a half dozen other hubs, all specialized information on the same basic topic.  Not much more than a short descriptive paragraph and a link to each one.  It's not what HP really wants, but it IS on a niche site.  It doesn't rank well in the SERP's but still gets 1,000 views per month or so - mostly the value is for those few that DO find it (perhaps from one of the other hubs that link to it?) and use it as a path to each of the other hubs.  It saves those other hubs from having the same half dozen links in each one.

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                        lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Do you mind telling us which one this is?

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                           TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Yeah. I'd like to look at it as well.

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                        TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        That's good to know. Was it put on the niche sites early on when they first started out? I think they've been evolving policy as they have gone along. However, it's very encourging to know that they haven't removed it and it is still featured. If it is still featured, I would do it just for that!

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                     lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Use ubersuggest or something like that.

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                        TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Thanks. That was one keyword tool I've never seen before!

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                           lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Thanks to DrMark we now know about it

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         Jean Bakulaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Tess,
         I write a lot of hubs in series form and they have gone to niche sites. You are knowledgeable, so write each one so it can act as a stand alone hub. But then take a different aspect of your topic and write the others. I have a long 7 part series which was deemed too long when I wrote it in 2011, and it's become one of my most popular series. Maybe take a look at these for ideas about how to do it:
         https://exemplore.com/fortune-divinatio … rt-3-of-3. There are 7 of them and they are all related, HP put pictures of some of the others on each one. So they are sort of linked, but not by me.
         
         The administration doesn't like the Part 1,2,3 in the titles, but you can get around that if you are discussing different aspects of the same subject. Google likes longer hubs now, especially around 3,000 words. I hope that helps.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you very much. It most certainly does. I will consider that as I look at and rewrite every single one of them. There are about twenty, and they really are all related! Thank you very, very much.

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               Jean Bakulaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Tess,
               I just checked the link I gave you, and it lead to a 404 page. I went on Exemplore.com and pulled up another one. If you look at it, you will see four more pictures and links to hubs in the series that HP put there, they are to the right of my text. So I didn't have to link them myself. All 7 in the series can be found that way.
               
               https://exemplore.com/fortune-divinatio … art-l-of-3

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                  TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  That's really nicely done! Which reminds me I wrote something in which you could use Tarot as a sort of Rorshash test years ago. I must find it! You've done it very wel, Jean. Thanks.

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                     Jean Bakulaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I hope you can find the pieces you wrote! Often I find good ones on Word that I forgot about. If you can find them, I am sure they are well written enough to be featured right away. That's an interesting topic too.

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                        TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        I'll do a search. I wrote it about a decade ago but it should be there somewhere. I generally keep everything I write. I'm seriously getting down to some writing now - something I haven't sone for about 6 or 7 years (too busy traveling, relocating, etc.). Only in the last week has everything become settled enough to get on with my life (nice apartment, down by the sea!).

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                           lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Nice! Enjoy the new place I remember you telling me a few months ago that you would be moving.

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                              TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              It's taken me two months to furnish and get everything together. Basically, I've been living out of a suitcse for more years than I can remember. I guess when one finds an affordable place two blocks from the sea in one of the most sought after areas in the world, one jumps! I'm very happy here, though I did have some help from others to get here.
                              
                              This is it!
                              
                              https://goo.gl/HnhwGr

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                                 lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 Wow How is the water scenario down there? Hope it's not too bad.

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                                    TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                    Amazing what you learn when you have no choice. The manager of the residential hotel I'm staying at put our rent up because she said her monthly water bill went up from R2000 to R12000. I was expecting it so I wasn't that put out by it.
                                    
                                    It's a minute shower, but the water has been put very low pressure. You don't pull the chain unless you absolutely have to. You use one sink of water that you eke out for the entire day. You wear you clothes longer than you would normally do - no washing after every wear.
                                    
                                    It's an experience.

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                                       lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                       Yeah. But being a big city, on the coast nonetheless, this has opened the eyes of many.

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                                          TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                          I think so. And I think there's going to be a lot more of it around.

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                                             lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                             For sure.

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   paperfacetsposted 5 years ago

   Some editors will cut the links and other niche editors will help you with the very specitific language to make the link acceptable.

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   SANJAY LAKHANPALposted 5 years ago

   I put the hubs into categories by assigning the same biography to all the similar hubs. We have an option to assign 25 different biographies thereby creating different categories of the articles, which may or may not be on niche sites.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      That's a good idea. Thank you.

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   Urbane Chaosposted 5 years ago

   Not only will they not be moved to a niche site, but I think that they would not be featured as well.  In a way, I think that would defeat the purpose.
   
   My suggestion would be to link them all together on a blog, then include short blurbs about each article.  Get a domain for that blog and put adsense ads on it.  If you do Amazon, (or Ebay - for the "old-timers") you could even create a page on the blog with an online store.

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      lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      In my opinion, if the pages are not ranking well here on the strong niche sites, starting a blog only to have snippets will definitely not rank either. It's as good as having the article unfeatured with a no-index tag.

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         TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I agree.

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         Urbane Chaosposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I should explain a little better; I use this effect and it helps generate a good amount of traffic.
         
         I started a WordPress blog for my home town several years ago.  On there, I have a variety of topics, such as shopping, history, attractions, etc.  I also link to other revenue places, such as Redbubble and Patreon.  I set up one section for HP articles as well.
         
         By blurb, I don't mean cutting and pasting a snippet of the article.  These blurbs include a photo and are written fresh and tell more about what the link is.  If I copied snippets of the article, that would probably get me put in the no-follow zone! 
         
         The question was about grouping articles together.  I use a blog so that I can monetize it in various ways.  The same could be done with a Facebook page, Reddit subs, etc.. I used to link to other hubs from a hub years ago but changed those a couple years back.  I remember when that used to be the thing to do..
         
         It comes down to how it's set up.  If it's a blog with a bunch of links to articles, that's no different than the old doorway pages from the '90s.  I built a brand around mine and it's worked very well for me, but it's also very localized.  I do get some outside traffic though, and have made some sales from people not in the area.  The outside income doesn't account for a lot, but every penny adds up!

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            TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Interestingly, I'm just about to set up for my first site (it's a very long time since I've had websites - about 10 years) on the area I'm living in in Cape Town. Then, again, it's one of the most award winning cities in the world for tourism, and the area I'm in is the hub of it all.
            
            And there isn't a single site on that area.
            
            That said, how does a local site cater to economics and captialism?

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      TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe. In days gone by, I used to have a blog on capitalism. Huffington Post wanted to interview me about it because I was saying things that were a little ahead of the curve. I declined and shortly after that just got bored with the entire thing and closed it down
      
      I find blogs extremely difficult to get traffic for.
      
      That said, I've been toying with writing a blog for Huff Post, and that might be worth looking at. There's no payment, though.

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