My Issue With Google Adsense

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   RussellFryposted 4 years ago

   This may end up being sort of a complicated topic but I will do my best to keep it short and sweet.
   
   First of all, this whole Google Adsense thing isn't the best idea for Hubbers (only my opinion). For one, HubPages gets to profit from my Hubs while I have to wait for Uncle Google to decide when my quality Hubs are good enough.
   
   With that said, HubPages already has ads placed all throughout each Hub, even the Hubs I am still creating. If I had a personal website, the site would not have any ads on it whatsoever until Uncle Google allowed it. So apparently, either HubPages sells its own ad space or has already had the entire site accepted by Google Adsense - either one.
   
   Whatever the deal, all Hubbers who write quality Hubs (especially featured Hubs) should automatically get a share of the ad revenue.
   
   Now that I have complained about that, is there something that I am missing here? Can I get paid without having to mess around with Google Adsense?
   
   Google: Damned with it, damned without it.

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   theraggededgeposted 4 years ago

   "Whatever the deal, all Hubbers who write quality Hubs (especially featured Hubs) should automatically get a share of the ad revenue."
   
   We do. The share is based on traffic to that hub. Which is fair. HP doesn't profit until you get traffic either.

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      RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      That comes nowhere near answering the question.
      
      The question that should have been answered (not a rebut to a statement) is, "Can I get paid without having to mess around with Google Adsense?"
      
      If the wording is confusing, let me ask it in a clearer fashion: Can I get paid by HubPages without signing up for Google Adsense?
      
      Furthermore, in my case, traffic numbers are not the issue. If they were, I would never have posted this particular question for it would have been fruitless.
      
      With that said, please stick to the question.

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         NateB11posted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Like a lot of people, I agree, it would be nice to not have to deal with Google. Unfortunately, you have to have a Google Adsense account to earn here, at least as far as views and clicks go. Used to be able to earn with Amazon without a Google Adsense account, not sure if that still holds true, maybe someone else can clarify.
         
         Of course, if you try to earn through Amazon, you have to be able to sell products, and I don't think product articles are what you write. Neither do I. Looks like your articles are informational and educational, which don't generally sell Amazon products.

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            RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I much appreciate your straightforward and topic-related answer. That is what I needed to know. I was hoping I was missing something and we could make money without Adsense. But, it's okay, I'll just follow the system - sure I'll get there eventually.

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         theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         You don't get to decide which statement I respond to. I'm a hubber, not a staff member.

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            lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            He cannot even demand that of a staff member. Oops I responded to something that wasn't a question. All hail the almighty Google.

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               RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                  lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Talk about intellect coming from someone who thinks Africa is a country.

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                     RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                        lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Reread what you wrote above. You are the one who questioned my intellect by looking at my picture haha. Yes, I wanted to see what kind of stuff a person needs to write to not even have 1000 page views, yet worry about Adsense and earnings and how HP is cheating you.

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                           RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                              theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              You said, "HubPages gets to profit from my Hubs while I have to wait for Uncle Google..."
                              
                              That's not true. Adshare is split 60/40 in your favour from the time your article is published. Go look up the information before making baseless accusations. It's all available on the site.

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                              lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Let's be clear: I am not an employee nor am I a moderator.
                              
                              !. Regarding this point, you say HP should give you a share which implies you think they are not giving you a share. You didn't use those exact words, but from your write up, this is what it seems like, at least to me. But yeah, people of low intellect tend to take things at face value. Sorry about that. 
                              
                              2. You did not ask for the rules. You said: "Whatever the deal, all Hubbers who write quality Hubs (especially featured Hubs) should automatically get a share of the ad revenue. " to which Theraggededge responded with the right information, which for some reason you did not accept.
                              
                              3. Make sure to add it to Google calendar you get reminders. I love Google and its products.

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                        theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        You seem to think it's fine to be rude to other hubbers.
                        
                        Brandon isn't a moderator, by the way, so be careful you don't get reported yourself for being so insulting.

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                           RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                              lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Pff. Before you get that other account, read a lot of the articles here: https://hubpageshelp.com/
                              
                              Some of us are serious about what we do here and don't just churn and burn accounts something you seem to have experience with.

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                              theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              I started it, how? By responding to a section of your original post that was clearly mistaken? And you took exception to it.
                              
                              Nice. You think you are right and everyone else is wrong.
                              
                              If you got reported you'd lose less than me? I have no idea what you are saying here. Do you think for one second that HubPages is the kind of organisation to delete someone's account over a forum spat?
                              
                              You might get a forum ban, but that's the extent of the 'punishment'.

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                  DrMark1961posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a nasty and personal attack. If you did log onto this forum from time to time you would find that this person is helpful to all of us.

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                     RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                        theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Firstly, Dr Mark is referring to your remark about Brandon's photo.
                        
                        Secondly here is my "sarcastic and rude" answer again. Just in case anyone is confused.
                        
                        >>"Whatever the deal, all Hubbers who write quality Hubs (especially featured Hubs) should automatically get a share of the ad revenue."
                        
                        We do. The share is based on traffic to that hub. Which is fair. HP doesn't profit until you get traffic either.<<
                        
                        If anyone can point out the sarcasm and rudeness in that response, I'd be truly grateful.

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                        DrMark1961posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        No, you really cant with your attitude. If you did not feel the need to be rude to people then you would find that people would not be rude to you.

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                           RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                              lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              If you do anything whatsoever other than rant and insult you would be doing "better" things. It's difficult, but it's doable.

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                              DrMark1961posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Not sure if they have schools for people your age where you live, but if they do you should go back. Learn to have some respect for your fellow human beings. You will be amazed how much better they treat you.

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            RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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               theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               "What I was doing, nonetheless, was letting you know your response was less than...intelligent, maybe? "
               
               How very kind of you. I'm not sure I could have carried on living without your succinct opinion of my response. I bow down before your most powerful intellect.

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                  RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                     theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Let me help you out with your grammatical issues.
                     
                     "Bowing for too long causes lower back pain. Try not to overdo it."

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                     lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Also, you don't have to have impeccable English to write here. But, grammar issues need to be fixed. For example, it must be: "Bowing for too long causes lower back pain".
                     
                     I wonder what made you think I'm a moderator? If I was you'd be banned from posting just because you question the integrity of the site you wish to contribute to without being open to an educated conversation about the same.

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                        RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                           theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           So many assumptions. So many errors.

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                              RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                                 theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 LOL! Pretty obvious that you are the one triggered by... nothing.
                                 
                                 And now I'm racist for not agreeing with you. Dear God, talk about scraping the barrel. Your immaturity is beyond belief.
                                 
                                 Keep taking those screenshots! You are providing the best entertainment on a rainy Sunday afternoon.

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                                    lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    It's all an inferiority complex for some reason. Ignore.

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                                       theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       Yes, let's leave him to wallow in his perceived injustices.

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                                       RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                                          lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                          I must say I am awestruck by the levels some people can stoop to. Mind your back.

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                                       ziyenaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       There's a reason he moved to Indonesia

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               ziyenaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               "Lastly, whatever attempt at British-style insults, humour, or whatever you think it is has proven no point whatsoever other than possible loneliness. I hear cats give great company - get one."
               
               Not a professional response.  Your statement could also be considered somewhat sexist.  Please have a little more respect for others in the forum.  You could end up flagged or banned, and that's not handy when you need help.

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                  RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                     ziyenaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     You were speaking directly to a woman ... in the corporate world, you would have been fired for a statement like that.  Not professional, and yes, it can be taken as sexist.  Your negative attitude does not belong in this forum.  Period

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                        RussellFryposted 4 years agoin reply to this

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                           ziyenaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           It's obvious you're here just to stir up trouble.

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   theraggededgeposted 4 years ago

   Still waiting for you to show where the rudeness, sarcasm (and now racism) is in my response.
   
   >>"Whatever the deal, all Hubbers who write quality Hubs (especially featured Hubs) should automatically get a share of the ad revenue."
   
   We do. The share is based on traffic to that hub. Which is fair. HP doesn't profit until you get traffic either.
   
   We do.
   The share is based on traffic to that hub
   Which is fair.
   HP doesn't profit until you get traffic either.
   
   Still can't see anything rude or derogatory. I need help here. Apparently these few sentences 'started it'.
   
   If you, RussellFry, cannot demonstrate that I was rude to you in those words, then you should apologise for your subsequent accusatory, personal, and demeaning comments.

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      ziyenaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      He will not apologise ... I read his article about Islamic Polygamy, and his tactics on how he tried to coerce his first wife to accept a second wife ... he lacks a conscience not for his choice in polygamy but rather how his article describes his manipulation.  Sad that I gave him a few cents worth of traffic but I understand now WHO he is and what he's about

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         theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I know. But his non-apology will demonstrate the kind of man he is.
         
         Edit: Ha ha... he's deleting his most insulting posts, but of course they are still showing in the replies. Futile, Mr Fry. Click on 'Chronological', top right. They are all there.

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            ziyenaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, and in my flag report lol

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            lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            

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         lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, I read that one too. Because it stood out. He compared how polygamy is the same as the LGBT community and I would agree in the sense that he says everyone should be free to make their own choices as long as it harms no one, etc. But then I saw the manipulation part.
         
         He even went on to compare how trans people have a higher suicide rate without taking into consideration how they are depressed because of the way society treats them.
         
         But, that's a whole different story than what this thread is about.

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            ziyenaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, another story.   His article explained his beef with Imperialism ... he's very bitter about the concept and anyone associated with it.  Take it easy, Brandon.  Out of here

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               lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Yup, I'm out of here too.

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         DrMark1961posted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Did you notice his "Africa is a country" comment? Even someone living on an island in Indonesia should realize that Africa is a continent.

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