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   mgalposted 14 months ago

   Hi everyone, yesterday I published an article "Elden Ring: What We Know So Far." Nothing has been plagiarized and I've followed all the rules, and I didn't get an email from HP explaining why.
   I republished it here, not sure if you'll be able to see it. Can anyone give me any pointers?
   If an admin could get in touch and explain, that'd be great, too.
   Thank you.
   
   https://discover.hubpages.com/games-hob … now-So-Far

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      JerryFisherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Looks like a great, well written, informative article. I can only assume it was somehow accidentally deleted?

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         poppyrposted 14 months agoin reply to this

         That’s my dad, I’m helping him with his HP account. I agree it’s a well written article (I have 50+ articles on LevelSkip). It got a warning and he had to manually re-publish it. Hopefully you’re right and it was a mistake. Hoping an editor or an admin can shed some light on the situation.

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         mgalposted 14 months agoin reply to this

         Thank you Jerry, appreciated.

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      OldRosesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Where did you get the photos?  Are they licensed for free use or did you just copy them?  Copying photos from other sites is considered theft and not allowed on HubPages.

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         mgalposted 14 months agoin reply to this

         Hi, I used screenshot from the game but did get them from Google images, so that could be it then, thank you

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            Glenn Stokposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            That image you are using is copyright by Kadakawa Ascii. You need to get written permission from them if you want to use it. Google images should not be used without checking if they are licensed for free commercial use or CC0 license.

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               mgalposted 14 months agoin reply to this

               That's great, thank you. I didn't realise screenshot from a game could be copyrighted by someone else. Much Appreciated.

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               poppyrposted 14 months agoin reply to this

               Video game screenshots are usually fine. I’ve used them plenty of times with no problems.

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                  Glenn Stokposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  Wrong poppyr! You’re lucky the copyright owner didn’t complain. HubPages warned me about using a screenshot of an app many years ago. So I know what I’m talking about, and I’m trying to help others protect themselves.

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                     CYong74posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                     No offence Glenn, but do you write for game sites or play games? Have you researched this matter of use of video game screenshots?
                     
                     Your personal experience many years ago is not indicative of today's practice.

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                        Glenn Stokposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                        The laws have not changed from that time. In addition, see the posts above from CYong74 and OldRoses. They both explained things very well.

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                           CYong74posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                           It's not a law, Glenn. It's your interpretation of an event involving an editor.
                           
                           And why are you asking me to read my own post?
                           
                           As for OldRoses' post, she's both right and wrong. (And quite obviously not a gamer). Rightfully, one should always use photos we have taken ourselves. But ... if you play games, you'd surely know that for years, more than half a decade, game developers have included camera-like functions in games. As well as gone through much effort to enable as many ways as possible to share these in-game photos.
                           
                           So if the copyright is with the photographer, and I use a game's own camera to take "photos," am I the copyright holder? Can I use these on a blog? Or here? Or LevelSkip?

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                              Glenn Stokposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                              It looks like I overlooked who said what, Ced. Sorry about that. But my referencing your post means I respected what you had said. As for copyright law with gaming, I’m going to bow out of any further discussion since I’m not a gamer.

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            Silverware Timesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Yes, the use of images and other elements from other websites is forbidden and Hubpages doesn't promote or publish these articles, so that must be the reason for your deletion.

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               theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

               Stop giving out incorrect information. The use of images is based on their license, not on where they come from.

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                  Silverware Timesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  I am sorry mam, I didn't know that the information I was giving was wrong, hence thank you for correcting me. I am thankful for the advice that I had received from you earlier on my articles.

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   ReViewMeMediaposted 14 months ago

   If you got the images off Google you should put the link in the link box so you can show where you got the picture.

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      mgalposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      OK, will do, thanks

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         CYong74posted 14 months agoin reply to this

         The issue of whether you can use game screenshots is a touchy one, long-discussed by game reviewers. I’ve read many different arguments over the years and I feel the most reliable one is that all screenshots are the property of the game’s publisher or developer.
         
         HOWEVER, most publishers/developers will also not issue copyright strikes to reviews, fans, etc, because there is a general practice of not antagonizing players. Anyhow, it’s free publicity. In very rare exceptions, a publisher will request for screenshots, let’s play videos, etc, to be removed not so much because of copyright but to prevent spoilers.
         
         As for Hubpages, I think if you look at Levelskip.com and what’s been there for years, you can assume:
         
         1) Screenshots are fine.
         
         2) Ownership should be attributed to the publisher/developer of the game. (NOT the site they were first published)
         
         3) These should be YOUR own screenshots. Not downloaded from another review.

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            mgalposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Thank you, very helpful

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               CYong74posted 14 months agoin reply to this

               Sorry, I forgot to add this. If a game is not released, posting preview shots from major game portals/magazines is probably a no-no. Not so much because of copyright but probably because the developer is controlling pre-release info.

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         OldRosesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

         Nope!  You can't just take photos from Google if they are not licensed for free use.  I have had my own photos "taken" from Google by others without my permission.  It doesn't matter if they give me credit.  I haven't given anyone permission to use my photos therefore their use is considered theft and it is illegal.
         
         You always have to have the permission of the photographer before you can use their work.  If you just copy from Google it's the same as walking into someone's house and taking pictures from their walls.  You don't have permission to do it so it is considered theft.

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      Glenn Stokposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      A link by itself is not sufficient. You need to go the the source and check to be sure it’s not protected by a copyright that does not allow commercial use. Since you are earning ad revenue, your use of the image is considered commercial.

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         mgalposted 14 months agoin reply to this

         Thanks Glenn

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   mgalposted 14 months ago

   Just a quick thank you to everyone who helped, its very much appreciated

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   PaulGoodman67posted 14 months ago

   Of course, it may have nothing to do with the images...

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   emgeposted 14 months ago

   It was probably a mistake and after all the article is published now.

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   psycheskinnerposted 14 months ago

   A screenshot is not a photograph as it is a direct copy, and even if it was it would be a derivative work encombered by the copyright of the original.  Please listen to what you are being told about copyright.
   
   What is possible is that use of play screen shots is permitted by the publisher of the game, as it contributes to their marketing.  This is quite common.  They hold the copyright but waive it.

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