Final Call to Move Your PetHelpful and Dengarden Content
Thank you for your continued contributions to HubPages. This is a reminder that on Thursday, October 31st, 2024, we will start operating Dengarden and PetHelpful as standalone sites within The Arena Group. As of Thursday, October 31st, The Arena Group will no longer be able to share revenue on content that remains on Dengarden and PetHelpful.
Please be aware that content that remains on Dengarden or PetHelpful may be strategically moved to a different brand at The Arena Group. For example, an article on Dengarden about home improvement may be moved to Parade Home & Garden. This means that your byline has a chance to be featured on Parade or other TAG brands. If you have a username that is not your real name, consider changing your author name and bio so that the article is associated with you.
We appreciate your writing and expertise and hope you continue creating content for Discover.HubPages and stay a member of our community. If you want to request your content on PetHelpful and Dengarden move back to Discover.HubPages, email lwinter@thearenagroup.net by Tuesday, October 29, 2024, to ensure a smooth transition.Thanks for the info. I just sent a request to move back my Dengarden and Pethelpful articles to Discover.HubPages.
With no type of compensation (or chance at compensation) at all? Not that interesting in my opinion.
Then if you, or any other writer has any article at DenGarden and PetHelpFul, why not request transfer to beat the October 31 deadline?
Miebakagh, perhaps you don’t understand the implications of this transfer. Moving our content to Discover will yield about 80-90% loss of earnings. Leaving on PetHelpful will yield a 100% loss of earnings. It’s a lose-lose situation that only benefits TAG.
My goodness, I understand both aspect you're aiming at. Okay, how about deleting or publishing same on your website or blog? Whatever you can do to stop the lose of income, do it before October 31.
Agreed, moving to another pet website is a viable option. But the new site must carry a similar or higher domain authority to PetHelpful for Google to rank it similarly. A brand-new site or blog always starts with a DA of zero, and requires work and patience to build it up. Sadly, Discover has a wonderfully high DA of 95, but Google does not see it as an authority in the pet niche, because it covers many diverse, broader topics. The pet articles struggle to find a voice there.
"Moving our content to Discover will yield about 80-90% loss of earnings"
Where do these figures comes from?
My experience is that articles at Discover are bleeding earnings but so are those that remain at the niches.Paul, my 220+ PetHelpful articles were prematurely moved to Discover back in September and that was the impact on my earnings. It hurt significantly.
Anyone whose article on PetHelpful, and Dengarden, will incur a loss, when moved to Discover site. Sorry for for that.
I can confirm from my numbers. Numbers were bad on Dengarden, but I was getting around 10 ish views a day on some and others were still in the 50s or so. But after the move to discover I am happy with 1 a day to most. The highest is 23 a day right now. I used to have a total of 4000 a day up to three years ago now it is under 100.
I interpreted "will yield about 80-90% loss of earnings" as being in the future tense. Whereas, it refers to an event that happened a year ago.
There's no question that traffic has fallen. I'm just interested in the implication that it's not so bad for non-Discover sites.
That's because my traffic has fallen dramatically right across the board. I've not noticed the traffic in niche sites like Owlcation doing any better than Discover.
Discover certainly used to behave worse than the niches in the past, but I don't see it doing worse than the niches in recent times.
It's all bad now.Well mine dropped from 4000 a day in the good old days to 500 or so on dengarden over the past year. After the move last month to discover it is now approximately 10 times lower when comparing september 2024 to october 2024. I also noticed CPMs dropped, but maybe that is just because of the last quarter.
So I personally see the big jump that Cloverleaf talks about in my account. Traffic is 10 times less and earnings even lower.Paul, I did mean it in the future tense, in the sense that anyone about to move their PetHelpful and Dengarden articles to Discover will likely see a similar loss in revenue as I did in September. I’m giving co-authors a heads-up. Looks like Brandon has confirmed that yes, a sudden drop of 80-90% is about right.
I am a bit optimistic that it will be better than what it is right now when more people move their work over + time to age on the new domain. Let's see how it goes.
I've seen a big drop in Owlcation recently too, so I strongly suspect that the Discover move is not the cause.
I read the situation differently and see the problem as much wider and more serious than you do.
I believe that it no longer matters whether the articles are in Discover or the niches. The algo updates seem to be punishing everything.To throw my two cents here, I was asked to watch my 80 or so articles on Pethelpful and DenGarden in the move. I noticed virtually no change… it was already bad before the move in my case. Traffic dropped substantially this year and perhaps part of last year. After the September 2022 Google algorithm change everything has dropped pretty sharply.
These also weren’t my top performing articles. PairedLife had my top performers and had been slowly but steadily dying with the niche.
My hope is we cut ties with TAG and something else captains HP altogether. It’s possible that we’ll get sold as the company restructures. Otherwise, I feel things will be grim.
I've gone through all of my ten accounts again and doublechecked that everything from Pethelpful and Dengarden has been moved to Discover (which it has!).
The presented option of moving or not moving is an example of "Hobson's Choice", as far as I'm concerned. There is only one "decision" that makes any sense.10 accounts? And all about DenGarden and PetHelpful? PaulGoodman, you're unique.
I have 100 original science articles on a Blogger blog for the last 10 months and Google haven't even bothered their arse to index it. They're such an obnoxious group of companies, Facebook, Google and the rest.
