I'm not a marketer

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    lynnechandlerposted 13 years ago

    I tried the affiliate thing given it a pretty good go and well nothing. I don't enjoy trying to figure out sales copy etc and adsense just isn't doing it. I mean it's gaining little by little and I know it is a slow process but yeah just not helping at the moment.

    I have stuff posted on a site that I have created, its not selling, I have books on amazon they aren't selling.

    Yes, I'm ranting so anyone want to rant along with me.

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    JeanMeriamposted 13 years ago

    Nothing for me yet either here. Adsense on other sites, but so far not on hubs. Amazon I figured out I am doing all wrong. You have to directly sell and I have been putting things on the side, hoping someone would just maybe......

    Time for a new approach I guess.

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      lynnechandlerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I've kinda done a combination of both. I've gotten clicks and it is building like I said I just am in an extreme funk at the moment with the money issue.

      Living off 2400 a year leaves nothing for anything extra and well yeah I feel trapped by this situation and want to do something to figure a way out of it.

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        JeanMeriamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I hope you meant 24000, because otherwise I honestly don't know how you survive at all. Then again, you're making more than me online so far. I get distracted though and start too many things, and get busy with the kids. I'm sure when I begin to focus things will be better.

        Review sites actually seem to net me the most money. When I actually go do them.  Just a thought.

      2. Marisa Wright profile image90
        Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Lynne, you should find Lissie - read some of her Hubs and follow the link on her profile to her passive income blog. She's been where you are - trying to make a living online. 

        Writing for revenue-sharing sites like HubPages, or running your own websites, are long-term investments.  You don't start seeing the return for several months, and only then if you've put in the promotional effort.

        Mark Knowles wrote a good Hub about how he wanted to think it was all about writing good quality content and readers would come, but he's had to accept that marketing is 90% of what it's about.  However, you can market by writing articles at other sites - Sunforged has a good Hub about how to do that.

        If you need to earn money right now, then you should look at freelance writing where you can get paid for your articles.  Check out Hubbers like Sufidreamer.

  3. frogdropping profile image78
    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    I think it's something you can learn lynne. Honest - go and check Nelle Hoxie, Mark Knowles and Dale out. They seem to have it sussed.

    Read, read and read again their hubs. Look for a pattern, the design, layout etc. I think Sunforged wrote some stuff about marketing, as has Shaz Llewellyn (sp?).

    I guess it's like anything - if you're willing to learn, you'll grasp the concept. After that, it's practice makes perfect. Plus luck of course. Something that you can tweak in your favor.

    Try selling stuff that HP isn't already saturated for, think outside the box. See what's hot, what's already written about a million times (and avoid it), use seasonal events and holidays.

    Or don't lol - I know writing about products isn't my cuppa either smile

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    englightenedsoulposted 13 years ago

    Adsense is ticking for me but with amazon I don't even get clicks.  But I am happy with my performance as I have been here for only 3 months and have concentrated primarily on adsense.  After I get my first payout from adsense I will try and figure out amazon!!  And as frogdropping said, read read and read!! Thats the ultimate key to success here at hubpages!!

  5. Will Apse profile image88
    Will Apseposted 13 years ago

    If you want to make money it is all about keywords. Find a promising keyword whether for adsense or a product then write the page.

    I try to make the product hubs more interesting for myself by finding some kind of angle or narrative but to be honest, a part of me dies every time I write one. You need a stainless brain to sell stainless steel kitchen ware.

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    lynnechandlerposted 13 years ago

    Jean I actually have support coming in of 600 a month that isn't from any earnings here or with anything else I do. After I pay the bills that leaves me 200 for groceries and any extras and yeah there are no extras right now at all.

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    Jane@CMposted 13 years ago

    The first thing I learned is to read people like Nelle to get a feel for things - but write it with your own style, put your own thoughts on the product.  I don't write copy unless I've used the product or have friends/relatives who use it.  I have a basic working knowledge of the product.  Like the Frog said, you need to think outside the box.  If I'm going to write copy, the FIRST thing I do is use the search box and see if there are hubs already created about the product, if there are multiple, I do not bother - unless I know in my heart that I can write it better. 

    I also don't market the holidays or other "special" calendar days, except Christmas. Its a huge waste of my time to write copy for V-day, St. Pats day, 4th of July, etc, when its just as cheap and far easier to pop into Walmart or Target to pick up items surrounding these days.  I don't know many people who go to Amazon for these mini-days.  I don't know anyone who shops for Easter dress or Easter candy on Amazon. LOL

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    Crazdwriterposted 13 years ago

    *hands lynne a huge bat* Here ya go Lynne..beat up those Adsense and you'll feel better. And then you can hand tha bat to the next person who Adsense isn't doing anything for. big_smile

  9. Daniel Carter profile image64
    Daniel Carterposted 13 years ago

    Adsense is actually mis-named.

    It's actually Subtractsense. That's why it's so frustrating.

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    Home Girlposted 13 years ago

    I am sure you cannot just rely on writing or marketing, it's very hard to do; and you have to have extra income to support you. I am lucky, I have a full time job so far, but when I did not, I used to have 3 part - timers and I survived, though it was really hard! i do not want to live like that any more unless I absolutely have to.

  11. frogdropping profile image78
    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    You know - I've actually used Amazon a lot over the years. The UK site of course. I keep trying to use it here but it doesn't always work.

    However, I buy direct. I just go to the site and look for what I want. But - I never buy anything without comparing and contrasting. And I particularly like it when someone has done it for me.

    I read customer reviews, always. A bad few don't put me off, I'm not daft. Some people will find anything to moan about. But I do read the opinions of customers, plus I like a decent blurb from the manufacturer or shop owner.

    If I can't really see what's in the box (so to speak), plus have something to measure it against, I bugger off and buy on the high street.

    So saying - maybe writing product hubs is as much to do with convincing the reader that 'x' product is the right one for them. If they find your hub - they're already browsing right? Perhaps the secret is giving them that last little push, or ticking the final box - and they buy?

    Anyway - ask Nelle, Mark Knowles etc. They're the wizards, not me. I'm not sure I could sell a glass of water to a man dying of thirst smile

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    lynnechandlerposted 13 years ago

    Guess I am doing about all I can right now. Thanks you guys for commiserating with me and offering up advice.

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    Pani Midnyte Odinposted 13 years ago

    I can't even figure out how to make AdSense work so you are far ahead of me on that one. Signed up, got approved, completely and utterly confused. It's too technical for me.

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    lynnechandlerposted 13 years ago

    I think the thing I'm not doing is writing to the keyword, I add them in as I go and don't search to see what they are paying so yeah the clicks I do get are small in comparison to some that others are getting.

    Plus I'm not generating hubs like I was before so things have slowed down a lot for me. I just disheartens me when I work really hard to do what I think I'm supposed to be doing and then I see a hub that is on top at Google but I can't figure out why. No visuals, capitalization is not present, written like a blog post instead of an article, etc but there it is getting good google juice.

  15. frogdropping profile image78
    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    Lynne - whatever comes on the top of the pile in Google must be giving the search engine what it wants to see. And that will be relevant content to the title and url. A few relevant keywords, placed on purpose or because they're naturally occurring.

    Lots of good solid backlinks - though this isn't always the case, it is the more likely scenario.

    In a nutshell - things get placed according to their relevance for a searched for term. Kinda thing.

    I'm sure someone like sunforged could answer this better, clearer.

    Anyway - it is disheartening, I know. And search engines are always moving the goal posts.

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    JeanMeriamposted 13 years ago

    Lynne have you thought of spinning any of your product hubs into reviews for sites like shared reviews? I read somewhere that they pay alright. I'm sure there are others too.

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    lynnechandlerposted 13 years ago

    I'm wondering I have this idea for an ebook I could write but need a good source on how to get started with this idea and make it roll. Anyone?


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