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   Whikatposted 12 years ago

   Please forgive me if this has already been asked. I have recently noticed that there is a trend with my hubscores. I noticed that when Google is driving most of my traffic my scores all go down, but on days when Hubpages is driving my traffic all my hubscores go up. Does this happen to anyone else?

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      Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I would have expected it to be exactly the opposite.  Are you sure it isn't just a normal delay - x happens, a few days later hub score reacts?

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         Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hi PCunix, Thank you for responding. I have noticed this pattern for the last week or two, I thought it was strange because I thought it would be the other way around too. You might be right about a delay. It seems the page views are up but the scores are dropping and stats say Google is bring more traffic. It is definitely not what I expected, but I am sure you may be right about the delays in scores, that would probably make some sense out of this. Thanks for helping me look at it a little differently.

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            Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            There may be things we can't see.  For example, votes up or down or how much HP has earned from their share of impressions.  I do not KNOW that any of these affect your score, I'm just pointing out that some of it could be invisible to us.

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               Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Good Point! I will just keep writing hubs and see what happens in the future. Thanks for all the thoughts.

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      hubzerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'M just a rookie hubber , it sure looks like  more points for hubbers community hits .Looks like Hub pages likes a social writer.My opinion you are spot on .

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         relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         At this point in my Hub history, I get well over 90% of my traffic from outside HubPages, I don't hardly follow anyone and I rarely comment on Hubs, so I disagree with your interpretation that the HubPages system somehow prefers a social writer.

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            Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Hi Relache, I apologize I may not have been very clear with my communication. I was not addressing my profile score, I was more concerned about the actual hub numbers going down when Google drives more traffic to them, than HP. I am sorry I sometimes do not write with great clarity.
            
            Thank you everyone, for their thoughts and replies in helping me to try to understand the numbers.

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               Website Examinerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Relache wasn't addressing you, actually, she was addressing hubzer.
               
               Since yesterday, I never had a moment of doubt about what you meant. Your original post wasn't unclear at all.

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                  Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Hi WE,
                  Thank you for pointing out my mistake on who Relache was addressing her comment to. I should have paid more attention.
                  
                  You mentioned since Yesterday? Does that mean that I am getting better at communicating my questions and thoughts, or does that mean something else?
                  
                  I am sorry, If I seem like I talk in riddles, I donated plasma today and the girl who stuck the needle in my arm screwed up, and I am not feeling like myself at the moment.  I do appreciate your comments and help.

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                     Website Examinerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I have been reading this thread a few times since it opened, and never had any doubts about what you meant. The thread started "yesterday" as far as I am concerned, but that is because we are in different time zones.

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                        Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        O.K, I finally woke up and understand. Thank you for the clarification.   Oh by the way, if PCunix is correct about the numbers going down by votes, than it would seem that I have upset some people here at hubpages, because my hub scores dropped like a rocket in less than 24 hours. I am talking about 10 or so points on a few of my hubs.
                        
                        If this continues I will be forced to move on and venture elsewhere. I don't care about the prestige or trying to be popular, I have kids to feed

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                           Website Examinerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Research the forums, and you will see - with HubPages as a source - that down votes have a neglible effect on hub scores. If it were otherwise, it would be only too easy to make life impossible for a competitor.
                           
                           Second, hub scores are only relevant internally on HubPages; they have no effect on traffic to your hubs from search engines. Only if a hub score falls below 40, and outbound links become no-follow, would there be real cause for concern.

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                              DoorMattnomoreposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Im thinking as long as your stuff is original, it would be pretty hard to get a hubscore less then 40. Mine usally start at like...50, I think. Bad spelling, poor structure and all.

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                                 Website Examinerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 I agree completely.

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                              Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Awesome, thank you very much WE. Great information to know. The thing that is confusing is that the Google traffic is not lower than usual, just the traffic that HP sends is lower in the last 24. That is why I had the original question. The higher scores are nice, but I am here to improve my writing and test some money strategies. I appreciate the feedback as always my friend

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                              Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              But what does HP consider negligible? One point? Three?
                              
                              We don't know.

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      ewhiskey50posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi, how do you know when google is driving traffic to your hubs, I am confused. Help Thanks

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         Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Ewhiskey50,
         Go into your account page, on the top of the page, third link down on the left hand side you will see traffic sources. Press the link and it will tell you who is driving traffic to your hubs.

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      thisisoliposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      you might want to consider that your traffic from hubpages is rising because of a rise in hubscore, rather than the reverse.

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         Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hello thisisoli,
         I appreciate what you are saying, the only thing is that when my Google Traffic stays the same, my hub scores can and do drop from lack of HP Traffic. I haven't seen my Google Traffic drop, that seems to stay at a steady flow. I am in agreement that higher hubscore more traffic. Thank you for your thoughts.

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   Anna Marie Bowmanposted 12 years ago

   My best advice...don't stress the scores too much. They fluctuate all the time.  I know mine do.  I don't pay that much attention to it. It doesn't affect clicks or earnings, really.  It's nice having high scoring hubs, and a high hubber score, don't get me wrong, but that's more for us hubbers than an indication of how well we are earning.  Most of the scores on my hubs fluctuate quite a bit, but I am still earning money fairly well.

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   Whikatposted 12 years ago

   hello Anna Marie, Thanks for your advice. I completely understand about not stressing over hub or profile score when it comes to popularity and feeling good about my work. My concern is that with lower hub scores = lower traffic from HP = lower monetary value. I would think it does affect clicks because with lower traffic means less chance for clicks. I am sure that once I am receiving a heavy stream of traffic from search engines, this will no longer be a concern, but in the mean time the huge fluctuations are a little unnerving. Thanks for your calming and reassuring advice.

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      jpwriterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The whole Hubscore thing is a bit confusing to me as well.  I was finally getting up there in the middle 80s, up to 87, and then I log on to see I'm back down to 77.  It's as though there's something I do that penalizes me, but I don't know what that is.
      
      On my individual ones, I just don't know what it is.  The articles that have been there the longest actually have the lowest article Hubscores.  I still have less than 10, but I'm working on building an entire library of HP articles. 
      
      I think that usually traffic is going to come from Google.  At least that is my experience at other sites.
      
      ewhiskey50 - For your traffic are you using Google Adsense and Analytics?  Although HP will tell you, it is also great to get info from Google Analytics.  Then you can see what keywords are working plus so much more.  It's free.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 12 years ago

   It is hopeless to try to figure this out-- "the system" could change on an irregular basis according to irregular standards. (Sort of like life.)  I think this is the way it should be.
   
   There is a philosophy which states: "There is no solution . . . Seek it lovingly."
   I believe this applies to all hubscores, hubberscores, hubkarma and almost anything that starts with 'hub', with the possible exception of hubcaps.

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      Whikatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Rochelle,
      I know that you and all the other hubbers who have tried to calm me down are right. I am too tired to worry about it any longer. I appreciate all the feedback and will just do what I love best, and that is to write hubs. Thank you all for the wonderful feedback.

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