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How Do You Get A Hub Ranked Above 80?

  1. bogerk profile image68
    bogerkposted 6 years ago

    All of my Hubs fluctuate between the 65 - 79 range with one or two that sometimes sneak in the 80 - 85. I'm just curious what it takes to get one or most of mine to stay about 80 or maybe even reach 90 +

    1. Pcunix profile image88
      Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I'd suggest you post a hub in Extreme Hub Makeover, but I'll make one obvious suggestion instantly:

      Long paragraphs do not work on the web.   Pick any of my hubs and observe the paragraph length.  That's a very important part of writing on the web.

      1. bogerk profile image68
        bogerkposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I try to keep my paragraphs and capsules somewhere between 100 - 200 words. Some reach 250ish. Is that too high, or about right?

        Thanks for the advice! This is all so interesting.

        1. Pcunix profile image88
          Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It's eye length.  Forger the rules you learned in school, it's how far down the page they go that matters.

          So, if there is content to the right (ads, Amazon), you need to be even shorter.  Internet eyes need to see regular white space or they go away quickly.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Elucidate, please.  If I have a text and Amazon capsule side by side, should I make one shorter to create white space?  Or do you mean the inevitable small space between vertical capsules?

            1. Pcunix profile image88
              Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I mean you need shorter paragraphs to the left of the capsule.

              Go by eye, not by your English teacher. He or she never heard of the web unless you are under thirty.

              1. fortunerep profile image66
                fortunerepposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                that was funny, but you are so correct!

          2. bogerk profile image68
            bogerkposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Great! I think I can break up some of my longer paragraphs in the Hubs I already have and can focus on length in the future.

            1. Randy Godwin profile image91
              Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Pcunix is correct!  Better to use a few sentences instead of many using the blank space in between.  When photos or other capsules are placed to the side of your text it makes those few sentences look longer as the width of the paragraph is shortened.

              Large blocks of text also seem to tire the eyes on a monitor, unlike in a book or magazine.

              1. Pcunix profile image88
                Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Our writing teachers (assuming we had any) taught us not to break up thoughts.

                That doesn't work on the web.

                Here, because "readers" rarely read, we need to work with scanning and make it as easy as we can for our visitor to find the few sentences they may be willing to read.

                And then of course, we hope they click on one of our money links on their way out smile

                People who never had writing taught to them still pick up the rules from books and magazines, where actual reading still takes place now and then.  It's so quaint I can hardly talk about it without getting misty eyed!  I remember well when I used to read..

                1. Randy Godwin profile image91
                  Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I only began writing a few years ago and this was one of the first things I learned.  I began using my school "book learnin'" style but quickly adapted to the internet version.  It does make a great difference!

            2. Pcunix profile image88
              Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, that's easy to do and it will give your hubs more chance.

              I'm not a sports fan at all (quite the opposite) so I have no idea if what you wrote is worthless or priceless, but I do know my white space smile

              1. bogerk profile image68
                bogerkposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I won't hold that against you - Thank you for your help!

  2. Pcunix profile image88
    Pcunixposted 6 years ago

    The reason is this:  most vistors do NOT read your hub.  They scan it, looking for the parts they want to read (if any).  If there are long chunks of text, they can't scan as easily, so they go away.

    Break it up.  I could have made this one paragraph and my 9th grade English teach would insist that I should, but on the Internet - if I want to be read - even this short thing needs two paragraphs.

    Nobody reads.  They scan.  Keep that in mind.

    The reason I put that on a separate line by itself is because that's the most important point.  That's the point I really want the scanners to see.

    Get it?

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ah!  You have created the white space.  I get it.  I think.  This is something I hadn't considered, even though I do it myself.  roll

      1. bogerk profile image68
        bogerkposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        My paragraphs are definitely a longer length than any of those in your reply.

      2. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Although I've got 2 and 3 thousand word hubs.  You'd be scrolling for 20 minutes! lol

        1. Pcunix profile image88
          Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          No, we don't smile

          Seriously.  Nobody reads anymore.  Google reads every word, but nobody else does.

          1. Pcunix profile image88
            Pcunixposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Take this thread, or any thread, as an an example.

            The minute it goes beyond one page, you start seeing repetition: new posters saying exactly what was said earlier because they don't read the whole thread.

            You see it here every single day.

            1. DonnaCSmith profile image84
              DonnaCSmithposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              This is an interesting thread. Now, I wonder, if we'll begin writing with shorter paragraphs to make reading on e-readers easier?

              Will reading electronically change writing style?

    2. David 470 profile image87
      David 470posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Pcunix is right, the majority of people do not read the entire article. Most of the time they scan what they are looking. It looks pretty ugly on a webpage if you do not break up any text.

      Personally, if i see a big GIANT paragraph, I am not very fond of it because its harder to read.

      It may also be a very good idea to make certain things in bold before paragraphs. Good place for keywords and such. It also makes things look better for the read or should say scanner ? lol wink

  3. shazwellyn profile image82
    shazwellynposted 6 years ago

    I want to add, that dont expect to have a hub at a constant 80 + when you achieve it, it doesnt work that way.  HubPages algorythm takes many things into consideration - traffic, thumbs up, other's sharing, people linking from your hub (plus lots more).  Your hubs will always vary in time.

    Hub scores are not constant, they change over time.

    The one major factor to your hub score, as well as your authorscore, is dont go self promoting because the system is set up to anaylise bad internet behaviour.

    1. bogerk profile image68
      bogerkposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you! This is all very interesting.

    2. profile image0
      Donna Ferrierposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, I've noticed this about my hubs. Watching them go up and down on the ratings scale is like watching a see saw...LOL

      Sometimes I'll have one hub rated at 78 or 80 for a day or two and then another hub will creep into the top spot...others will be near the top for a time, and then others will creep up from the bottom. It looks kinda weird sometimes...LOL

      Peace,
      Donna

  4. sofs profile image85
    sofsposted 6 years ago

    Wow! I am learning something here.. somehow I have always tried to keep informational hubs this way, short paragraphs with a couple of bold words to make the point.

    This is more because I like to read stuff that is easy on the eyes.
    But I now know there is a method to the madness.

    Ha! my hub scores race up to 90 and the back to the mediocre 70 -80's  I keep losing hope.. Shazwellyn, your advice seems  make me feel better.

    Thank you PCunix and Shazwellyn for sharing.

    1. DRidge profile image70
      DRidgeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I found this information important. I wish there was a whole page dedicated to it in the introduction to hubs. I am confused about ratings.
      I read. I thought everybody read. Wow. We learn something new everyday.

 
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