I ASKES HUBPAGES FOR A NEW CATEGORY IN RELIGION AND PHILOSOPHY

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   Antoine Van Hoveposted 14 years ago

   Since I felt limited in my expression, I asked HUBPAGES to create a new category:
   
   "NOT TO ANY RELIGION BOUND RELIGIOUS PERSONS".
   
   THIS IS A POSITIVE INITIATIVE; IT IS NOT "AGAINST" ANYTHING!
   
   I JUST DONT WANT MY HUBS AND COMMENTS TO BE CATEGORIZED IN A PLACE WHERE THEY DONT BELONG!
   
   (At the moment they are transferred by hubpages in one of the existing categories, of exisitng religions all the time! This while I am not bound to any religion!)
   
   so, I wanted to ask the community, and of course most of all those people who feel and think the same way like me, what they think of this?
   
   So, therefore I ask for your opinion and support!
   
   If you feel the same, kind request to become a follower, since I write many hubs about this!
   
   ALSO: KIND REQUEST OF THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR TO SHARE THIS WITH ALL YOUR FOLLOWERS, PLEASE!
   
   THANK YOU SO MUCH!

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What about this category?
      
      http://hubpages.com/topics/religion-and … liefs/5073

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         Antoine Van Hoveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Dear Mark, thank you gor the suggestion.
         
         I know this category, but it doesn't offer me that what I feel, being non religious bound religious.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            That is the closest I could find. And if you want to turn off the ads on your hubs, go to the hub > edit > box on right > settings > untick "This hub may be considered commercial" > Ad level "None > "Done editing"

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               Antoine Van Hoveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Great suggestion, Mark! Will do that for the hubs I want to share freely, without wanting any revenue for it!

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                  Antoine Van Hoveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you for your reply!

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            manatita44posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Well, some bookshops have 'Ancient Wisdom; some Yoga Philosophy; Spirituality- a broad term; Mind, Body and Spirit as well as Religion.
            What do you think of Alternative Thinking?

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   Nice Suggestion.
   
   I want to see 'Religion and Beliefs' category in the Sandpit section. Please.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Amen

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      Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think you really mean kitty litter box, don't you?
      

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         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Kitteh.

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            Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            
            
            You mean maybe like this:
            
            
            
            Isn't this pretty much the way the religion forums work?
            
            You dog.

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               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I ain't no dog.

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                  Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  It was a tease, not an insult.
                  Apologies to you.

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                     Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     LOL - I was kidding. I am a low down dirty dog.

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                        Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        
                        
                        Alpha Dawg.
                        Or as they say in the west--Dogge.

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                        manatita44posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Quite Funny Mark,
                        
                        But I like it.

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   larryfreemanposted 14 years ago

   Hi Antoine,
   
   When I put together these categories, my assumption was that a person would see themselves in 1 of the following:
   
   1.  Newer Religion
   2.  Established Religion (Christianity, Islam, etc.)
   3.  Atheism/Agnosticism
   4.  Philosophy
   5.  Exploring Religions
   
   It seems like your view would suggest a 6th category:
   
   6.  Spiritualism
   
   Am I understanding you correctly?
   
   Thanks,
   
   -Larry

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      Antoine Van Hoveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      That could be one possibility how to call it, yes.
      
      Or, those who don't want to identify the Devine in any category, so that is is n longer a constant source of conflict.
      
      Also, the ones who admit our incapability to define the Devine, in whatever projection of it, but who want to experience it, as an imprinted hollow abstraction, but directly as a personal experience.
      
      One danger exists however, that the name "spiritualism" or "spirituality" may possibly and easily, be wrongly explained and understood, and even possibly be used to start projecting concepts of the Devine again.
      
      The core is, that I want a category which could gather those people who are willing to live a personal religiosity, (as personal, not as a collective), as a direct lively lived experience, free of any projections.
      
      Thank you for your reaction.

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         larryfreemanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Antoine,
         
         After scratching my head and thinking about your request, I added the following category:
         
         Religion & Philosophy/Non-denominational Beliefs & Practices
         
         Thanks very much for your suggestion.
         
         -Larry

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            Antoine Van Hoveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well Larry, it is certainly a good step in the right direction, but please look here:
            
            http://www.answers.com/non-denominational
            which accounts for these groups:
            
            Examples
            The following organizations and institutions label themselves as non-denominational:
            
            Calvary Chapel — mildly charismatic, originating in California
            Christian Congregation in the United States - self-declared non-denominational, non-sectarian.
            Churches of Christ in Christian Union — focuses on free-form worship and evangelism
            Churches of Christ — associated with the Restoration Movement; known for sola scriptura, a cappella worship, and baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
            Evangelical Christian Church in Canada (Christian Disciples)
            Family Stations, Inc. Identifies as a non-denominational, Christian radio ministry. Reformed, conservative, Calvinistic
            Gordon College (Massachusetts) — started by a Baptist church and once part of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary
            Independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ - also associated with the Restoration Movement like the Churches of Christ above. It is similar in all respects except for the use of instruments in worship as opposed to a cappella.
            Independent Fundamental Churches of America — association of conservative, independent churches
            Local churches — The local churches (Chinese: 地方教會) are a Chinese Christian movement influenced by the teachings of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee and associated with the Living Stream Ministry publishing house. Its members see themselves as separate from other Christian groups, denominations, and movements, part of what they sometimes call "the Lord's recovery
            Newfrontiers — charismatic, of UK origin
            Open Bible Standard Churches — Pentecostal
            Open Brethren — non-charismatic, of UK origin
            Plymouth Brethren
            Sovereign Grace Ministries — identifies itself as "Reformed Charismatic"
            Vineyard Movement — evangelical/charismatic
            World Changers Church International - originating in College Park, Georgia
            Crossroads Christian Church
            While in general these groups will not have formal legal ties between individual congregations and consider themselves non-denominational, outsiders often describe them as denominations in and of themselves due to their close associations, equivalent doctrine, similar worship practices, and the ease of using one name to cover a larger group of churches.[citation needed]
            
            As you can see these are still related to organized groups...
            
            I would like to see a categorie "non-religious bound religious", because this indicates literally, not bound, free of any form of organisation.
            It may be non-religion attached spirituality and religiosity, for instance.
            
            Sorry, to give you maybe the trouble, which is not meant to.
            
            But I am, how rare it may seem to most people, non religion bound religious, which is not atheist as well.
            
            Also look for my replies here: http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Righteous-Atheist
            
            Thanks for the effort! Don't hurt your head too much when scratching it any further... :-)
            
            If you see no way to create a category which expresses what I mean, I will use the proposed category. But still then, it doesn't really express what I feel.
            
            But hey, maybe I am too difficult...

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               larryfreemanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hi Anotine,
               
               I appreciate the discussion.  :-)
               
               I understand that you are looking for a category such as "independent of the establishment".
               
               The problem that I see is that there really is no ready term for this type of activity (the reason I was scratching my head).  If there is a term that especially, please let me know what it is.
               
               That's how I came up with nondenominational.  While it does include many groups that you do not identify with, it also includes your perspective.
               
               It sounds like you are suggesting that nondenominational requires two subcategories:
               
               i)  Organized Nondenominational
               ii) Independent Nondenomnational
               
               Am I understanding  your concern correctly?
               
               Thanks,
               
               -Larry

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                  Antoine Van Hoveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Yep! Completely!
                  
                  Independent Nondenomnational sounds fine.
                  
                  Nice scratching!
                  
                  Do you have a HUB on how that scratching works for you, because I really  wanna know and learn it for myself
                  
                  :-)

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                     larryfreemanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Hi Antonie,
                     
                     Thanks for confirming.  OK, I added two new subcategories:
                     
                     Religion and Philosophy → Non-denominational Beliefs & Practices → Independent Nondenominational
                     
                     and
                     
                     Religion and Philosophy → Non-denominational Beliefs & Practices → Organized Nondenominational
                     
                     Cheers,
                     
                     -Larry

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                        Antoine Van Hoveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Thanks Larry. I have sent some more suggestions to the general team hubpages email adress, so you will be ablt to scratch your head some more, I promise...
                        :-)

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      zampanoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And those who don't give a shit but like to tickle abit sometimes..

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   jenblacksheepposted 14 years ago

   I mentioned this in one of the other threads, but noone responded: there should be a philosophy category in the Hubpages Student area! Please!

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      Simone Smithposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for pointing that out!  We've added it now: http://hubpages.com/students

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         jenblacksheepposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Ooooh thats great, thanx!!

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