Okay, this may sound really dumb, but let's say I'm a hubber who has some hubs here and I've been here for several months and I'm grabbing up good keywords but I'm just not grasping how to format my hubs and write my hubs to their full potential.
It would be cool for like the hubpages algorithm to tell me:
You have a hub that qualifies (hubs that are on good keywords but don't live up to their potential) for the hub buddies program. Are you interested?"
And then if I'm interested, a more experienced hubber (a hub buddy) is given a "copy" of my hub and they can edit it, add things to it etc... but NOT publish it. Then the internal algorithm decides if the hub buddy's hub is better and then lets me know:
Your hub buddy edited your hub! Would you like to commit the changes?"
And if I commit the changes, my hub buddy like gets a cut of the impressions either taken from my cut or hubpages cut.
WHY I THINK THE PROGRAM WOULD SUCCEED:
-Hubpages would earn more because these hubs may become more popular in the search engines...
-Good hubpages writers could earn more by fixing up a helpless hub.
-Not-so-hot writers could learn from their edited hubs.
Even though there is a plethora of information on how to make a great hub, many users don't seem to be taking advantage of the available information. Plus, I REALLY like editing things.
WHY I THINK THE PROGRAM WOULD FAIL:
-Hub buddies could get bogged down by a huge number of hubs that need sprucing up.
-It may cause some writers to stop caring about their quality since a hub buddy can pick up the slack (could be solved by part of the users impressions being given to the hub buddy OR not-so-hot writers could like idk, only be allowed to have x hubs in the program)
-Hub buddies might get a ton of topics they aren't interested in or a bunch of spam topics (solutions could be: hubs have to have some sort of qualifying factor that keeps spam hubs out, hubs on boring topics could offer a higher amount of impressions, and hub buddies can select which hubs they would like to spruce up)
-The hubbers who produce, not so hot hubs may feel insulted by being invited to the program. (hubpages could make it sound more appealing by idk using the word "mentor" or something?)
-The great writers may stop writing their own hubs because it's faster to edit an already existing hub (not really sure if this would be a problem as there's really more money in having your own hubs, anyway.)
This is just an idea. Thoughts?
I think having people post to the Extreme Hub Makeover forum where they can get feedback and help works just fine, and HubPages doesn't need to invent something else.
No. I don't need another HubPages filter judging my work - or suggesting that I need to help another hubber.
I turned off the Answer a Question Feature as fast as I could, as well as my accolades. I use Edweirdo's forum filter. Many of us just want to be left alone to write in peace.
Relache's suggestion to use the Extreme Hub Makeover forum is much better.
Yeah, it was one of those like 4 am thoughts... lol I thought about it some more and I don't really think it's the best idea.
Though it could be a workable idea if you have a buddy who is willing to help you, one on one as a personal favor.. this may take so much time of the others hubbers who are writing in many places and having websites of their own!
The reactions speak for themselves anyways!
I don't think the concept is a bad one at all (lots of people go in big for the "mentoring type of thing"), but it isn't one that would be for me. I'd been writing on another site for awhile, and they instituted the steward program. I was invited to be one, and I made the mistake of thinking it might be "more interesting than just writing". It was absolutely unbearable. It seemed like all there were were tons of awful articles to be read and "dealt with" (one way or another). If there's one thing worse than having to read awful stuff, it's having to figure out how to fix it. I don't want to fix other people's work, and I don't want anyone else fixing mine. (Heck, I don't even want to go back and fix a lot of my own that could use some improving, even though I know exactly what they need. )
Over time it got so the idea that "we're all helping each other learn to write better" was the prevailing mentality (and, obnoxious as this will sound, I wasn't there to learn to write better ).
I'm a friendly person in general; but when it comes to my writing, I like the "every-man-for-himself" approach. I'm only adding this because it's part of a forum discussion (that might be seen by the HP team; and after that other site "went collaborative" I'm apparently worried other sites might consider adopting similar thinking) (and not to "drive the point home" about the mentoring thing, or "pile on"), but one reason I've stayed with HubPages is that writers are left on their own (unless they don't want to be, in which case there's lots of help) to just do their thing, sink or swim (or sort of swim). If HubPages were to start to be like that site with the "writing collaborative" thinking, I'd be moving on.
I don't think it's at all a "dumb idea". It just doesn't happen to be one I like. Based on the number of people I've seen on here, asking if there's a "mentor program or something", I suspect there are lots of people who would like the idea (4 a.m. or not). As for my own philosophy (and to re-word Benjamin Franklin's saying, "Neither a borrower nor lender be"), I say, "Neither a mentor nor a mentee be."
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