Confusion regarding referrals and traffic referral program .....

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  1. free4india profile image60
    free4indiaposted 14 years ago

    # The Traffic Referrals is guaranteed to be yours for 120 minutes.

    If someone clicks on your link to a specific Hub, you are entitled to the traffic referral impressions for 120 minutes. We set this limit because there may be multiple Hubbers referring people to a particular Hub. No other tracker can replace yours during that 120 minute period. This is called the ‘first dibs’ rule.

    Traffic Referral Program: If you send traffic to any Hub, you’re entitled to either 9% or 12% of total impressions. You’ll receive 9% if the Hub you’ve referred people to already has impressions allocated to an Affiliate. If there are no Affiliates, you’ll receive 12% of the total impressions.   

    The above portion is official...  However I find them confusing...

    In one place they say if I refer traffic from my site to, then I will get traffic referral impressions for 120 minutes (100% or 60% ??).  In another place it says about 9%, 12%, 30%, etc.

    What I want to know is if I send some people by placing links on my site say using referral say which is my own hub and to … -confusion which is another person's hub.  How much traffic impressions will I get in both of the cases ?

  2. Susana S profile image93
    Susana Sposted 14 years ago

    Ok, there are two types of referral.

    The first is when you get new sign ups to hubpages - click on the affiliate link at the bottom of any hubpage and it will take you through the set up process. When you get new people to sign up you get 10% adsense impressions per sign up for life, which is taken from the hubpages portion. (Assuming they write some hubs that is!)

    The second type of referral is when you create a link to another persons hub by using the "link to this page" tab at the bottom of the hubpage and post that link somewhere else e.g. your website. This is the referral where you get 9 or 12 % of adsense on that page for 120 minutes.

    For both of the above referral types you need to create a tracker which is done by clicking the affiliates tab at the bottom of the page.

    The 60% you referred to is your share of adsense impressions on your pages. 40% of the time hubpages will show ads for themselves.

    Hope that helps smile

    1. darkside profile image65
      darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Susana has it right, but I'll just clarify further...

      Two different outcomes, but it's done with the same link.

      free4india, don't worry about the 9%, 10% and 12%, lets just refer to them all as 10% as Susana has here.

      If you send a person to hubpages, and they sign up, you get 10% of the ad impressions of their pageviews. We all get 60%, so the 10% is taken from the remaining 40% which would otherwise be HubPages Inc's cut.

      It doesn't matter whether or not you send a person straight to the sign up page or to your hub, or someone elses hub, if they sign up within 2 hours of clicking on that link, they are your referral.

      That's one way a referral/tracker will benefit you, people sign up and you get ad impressions (if they publish hubs).

      In a situation which I think is unique to HubPages because I haven't seen it done like this elsewhere, is that you can send traffic to other peoples hubs, and you get rewarded for it.

      (about) 1 in 10 pages will display your ads. The 120 minutes doesn't affect this, but I'll explain how it does matter in a moment.

      So the same tracker that allows a person to sign up and be credited to you, is the same tracker that notifies HubPages to display your ads at approximately 1 in 10. The 9% to 12% is because if you're sending traffic to a hub of a hubber who signed up under someone else they have to distribute the ad impressions among 4 Publisher ID's. The hub owner, the person who referred the hubber, HubPages Inc, and yourself.

      It's good that it's the same system because what might happen is you could be sending traffic to a hub of someone else from your own blog (or even your own hub) and getting the 10% ad impressions, and if one of those visitors decides to sign up - POW - they're your referral.

      Now getting back to the 120 minute bit...

      If you refer someone, a cookie is set, they have 30 days in which to sign up and become your referral (providing of course they're using the same computer because the cookie that is set is on that PC's cache).

      The 120 minutes is exclusive. So for the first 2 hours, they can click on other peoples referral links, it won't matter. They'll be credited to you.

      After that initial 120 minute period, if they click on someone elses, they get a 120 minute window of opportunity.

      IF a person doesn't sign up in THAT 120 minutes, you still have the 30 day cookie, so it will revert back to you.

      Now everything I've said so far will be confusing the very first time you read it, I know it took me a while to figure it out. So let it sink in slowly. Read it a few times and after a while it'll become clearer. And when it does it'll be like "Wow! Those HubPages guys are fraking clever!"

      I have written a couple of hubs on it:
      An Introduction to HubPages Referrals
      How HubPages Tracking Works

      1. LVM profile image59
        LVMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks for the detailed explanation.  Only after reading this did I really undertand what URL trackers are.

      2. futurenetads profile image59
        futurenetadsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks darkside for detail information

  3. Susana S profile image93
    Susana Sposted 14 years ago

    Thanks for clarifying Darkside smile

  4. arunjain1989 profile image61
    arunjain1989posted 14 years ago

    Thnx darkside and really simplified it...Now i understand it....

  5. free4india profile image60
    free4indiaposted 14 years ago

    Is there any use to referring to another hub inside hubpages...... ?

    Many think no.... but the answer is yes..... those who know pls. answer...

    1. relache profile image73
      relacheposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The answer to your question is in darkside's explanation.

      1. darkside profile image65
        darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        My explanation was so good it took him from complete novice to expert in about 24 hours. He's even made a hub and a thread about it.

  6. kiwitom profile image51
    kiwitomposted 13 years ago

    Hi darkside,
    I have a question about the referral program that I’m hoping you can shed some light on for me. Apologies if I’m asking something that you have already covered in you previous responses on this subject - which are excellent I must add - but I want to make sure I’ve got this right.
    I’m completely sold on the concept of the ‘new sign up’ referral program – I convince others to sign up to HP and get rewarded with a percentage of the ad revenue their content generates. Great!
    What I’m not 100% on is how to set this up.
    I took the liberty of looking at the link that you have included at the bottom of your page How Hubpages Works - , and from what I can tell, the link you have included for new users to sign up is  - i.e. a direct link to the sign up page that doesn’t seem to include any tracking ID that would identify this link to you or your account.  I thought that you needed to have your individual tracking id included in the link – e.g.

    Is it sufficient to simply include the generic link to the sign up page and Hubpages is smart enough to recognise that the referral  has come from my hub?

    Any guidance much appreciated!


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