The "making money from hubpages" tactics

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   weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years ago

   I have noticed a great deal of effort put into finding the specific keywords to write hubs about, and pushing them into Google, among other places, to drive traffic to your hubs, and thence get ad views and clicks, etc. 
   
   Do any of you who read this forum write for the sheer love of writing, and hope that the quality of your writing is such that those who have the same interests will return, seeking more of what you produce?   Have any of you who have done that ended up with a significant monetary profit from doing so? 
   
   Perhaps the reason for me bringing this up, is that I do a lot of research using Google, and one of the most infuriating things I find, is to find that someone has "optimized" to get traffic for those keywords, but their page or site contains nothing original, authoritative, or is of no quality.   
   
   In other words, I mentally blacklist in reading the Google summaries, everything you're trying to do, in chasing the elusive clicks by technical redirection, rather than by filling the need of the person who may be directed your way.   
   
   Am I alone in this, or ???

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      emenika bukiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      i feel so strong when i saw your comment about making money on hubs,but you did not explain what you think, by making money ,for me i see the best of your attempt ,that's good. can't you see hubs has been expanded world wide because good developers in hubs ,here you can advertise your goods and make your earning cash as easy,,,,men the question is that how it work? waooh wanderful, i can see again hubs is the best place associate with difference categories of human beings, if want to make your online cash is here..thanks but am coming again with best guideline you can understand by making money online!

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      Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This is called "Capitalism." Not a big fan, I take it?

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         weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         No, capitalism is the act of finding a need or want, and filling it, in a way that benefits you and the one who needs, as well.   
         
         I see hubbers who write stuff that could definitely fill that bill, doing research and organizing information such that it authoritatively answers a question or teaches someone to do something.   But after using hubpages myself, I would come to regard them as merely 'second tier' sources.  That is, if I'm searching for authoritative information on something, there's no way I'm following hubpages based links.  I'm going to mentally filter them out and find sites and pages that are expertly based. 
         
         If, on the other hand, I was looking for opinion, or entertainment, then I'd probably be a little more likely than average to follow a hubpages link.  But that's me. 
         
         And thus, I asked the questions, to see what people are thinking...

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   CASE1WORKERposted 13 years ago

   Most of my writing hits Key words by sheer chance!
   I write a few sales orientated hubs for which I do hit keywords, but to be honest I find the use too restrictive, especially once I get into flow. As time passes I hope that the hubs will attract their own traffic

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   I've written plenty in the past, and one or two recently, that was/is nothing to do with earning money. That's where I've always gained the most meaningful feedback.
   
   Of late I write predominantly to earn a living, both on HP and elsewhere. If I had the luxury of possessing enough money not to do so, I wouldn't. I'd write short stories and articles relating to history to my hearts content.
   
   Whether or not you're alone in your thinking I don't know for sure, though I suspect that you're not.

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      weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps I should expand on my thinking a bit, to say that I think the practice of writing and search engine manipulation, just to divert traffic to you, is going to result in harming your efforts.   
      
      Eventually, after someone develops some means of filtering out this opportunism for advertising, Google will do it to, leading to making it much harder for valid material to get into Google's higher ranks, and decreasing your chance of getting real material people seek in front of their eyes.

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         shoganposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Why would Google voluntarily limit the number of sites it can potentially make ad revenue off of?  Perhaps I'm not understanding your point...?

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   Well I don't know what SE's are thinking. Probably both of the following: how to rapidly access and display the best quality content, and how to keep generating a healthy profit. As they're hand in hand I don't expect to see anything I write commercially falling off the radar.
   
   Internet advertising is big business and commercial content (therefore) will always exist. And that whilst you're musing about SEO and manipulation that you're writing on a site that is already set up for such methods?
   
   If you want fair game then buy a domain name, pay for hosting and let nature take its course. Eventually, when opportunism for business is removed then there will be no more folks like me, only folks that write for pleasure left. And no money of course, which will cause quite the crash for SE's. But there you go.
   
   Ideal worlds create equality.

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   Will Apseposted 13 years ago

   From your profile weholdthesetruths:
   
     'I am now a political conservative, a TEA Party type, a strict Constitutionalist, and a firm believer in Capitalism.'
   
   Surely, you of all people must realize that the business of America is business.
   
   As long as the internet is primarily ad-supported, professional writers are obliged to write for the ad money. That means writing pages that will in some way contribute to something getting sold somewhere.

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   simeonvisserposted 13 years ago

   Even if you write purely for fun, it makes sense to do keyword research. After all, people type words into Google and you want your content to be found. So it makes sense to choose words that people regularly type into a search engine.

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      weholdthesetruthsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, yeah, this is a given, and understood.   I was referring to the opposite, where people find the keywords first, and then hub about it.   Unless you've got a database of almost incomprehensible proportions, concerning your knowledge of things, it's going to result in those webpages that tick me off, having diverted me from real content and wasted my time.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   I find almost everything I want within the first search. Often, those who are inundated with spam or overly optimized returns simply lack basic research skills.
   
   These skills - as in knowing what to ask for in a precise manner are not something that are even specific to the current atmosphere of search engines, ever use a library database search?
   
   If you ask general queries you often get general results. Learn Boolean operators, learn to recognize authority sites and search internally.
   
   Dont be lazy

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   vnusthamposted 13 years ago

   sound good when can make money from here. Now I did not find out the best keyword about it. I just wrote something as I want now.  and put some amazon stuff concern in my hub..
   May be next time I have to find out "money keyword" and write it.
   If anyone have any idea welcome to share. I'm newbie for this place. Hopefully get some money here.. Cheer!!

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   Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

   I manage to do both.  Most of my hubs are written for my own enjoyment and for making a few bucks in the process.  Sure, I would make more money if I concentrated on just writing sales articles, but that would be a drag for me.    I have other, more lucrative, boring work I can do if I choose to spend my time in such a manner.

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    AMSpaceposted 13 years ago

    I do both, too. Although I'm a relatively new hubber, I've specifically written a few sales articles, but other times I write about a subject because it's a personal interest and I feel I can do a good job with it. It's a great feeling to begin writing a hub and feeling it flow, not having to force yourself or endlessly edit awkward wording!

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