I am writing articles for this website since past 3 months. At present, I have 38 featured and published hubs. I have joined for Amazon and google Adsense program. Past two months I earned like very less amount, less than 1/2 dollar. If I continue writing and publishing at the rate of one article for two days, how long I may take to draw my first payment?
What is the portion of HubPages earnings in the total earnings?
Experienced colleagues, help me, please...
Your earning rate is dependent on more than just how often you write. It depends on the quality of the articles and how well they rank on google. It depends on how social you are here on hubpages. It depends on how successfully you promote your work on social media. World events and things outside your control have an effect as well.
Realistically, it's probably going to take longer as English doesn't appear to be your first language. Somethings you might consider in working to increase your readership: Do you have anyone proofread your hubs for you? Have you done any research on SEO? Are you regularly active in the forums? Do you respond to questions? Do you read and comment on other hubbers work? How many of your hubs are on niche sites? What's the quality of the media on your hubs? Are your hubs attractive? Are your topics things that google searchers are searching for?
I can't tell you how long it'll take, and I don't want to be discouraging, but it will probably longer than you hope. I would find other goals around the site and reasons to enjoy the platform to keep you going and learning as you work towards your first payout.
O.k Thanks for your insights on Hub pages. I think, I will continue writing for some time and see the result. I don't know any other website to promote my articles either.
I agree with kbdressman. I wrote here for quite some time before I made my first payout, but I also learned a great deal so consider the time I spent as a free education. I've been here almost 5 years now and earn regularly. However, don't count on earning enough to support yourself. Few people ever achieve that goal. Good luck.
Thanks. Can I ask you, how much you are earning( approximately) monthly after 5 years? Just for my calculations.
Hubpages, in my opinion, is the place to write!
It took me over 100 hubs and about a year and a half before making payout, so it can definitely take a long time. But once you hit that first payout things get a lot easier regarding earnings. Way too many newbies have unrealistic expectations regarding earnings and are unable to accept the cold reality of the online writing world.
Thanks. I understood. One thing I want to ask you is, whether you can continue earning once you reach the regular payout point, even if you stop writing for a while?
I haven't written a new hub for at least a couple of years and still get paid every month. Really must start writing again!
If that's the case, CMHypno, then you must have written some really interesting articles. Either that or you have excellent marketing skills in driving traffic to your articles. Or perhaps both. Whatever the case may be, you must be doing something right.
I'm similar to CMHypno and I know several other Hubbers in the same boat.
I've written only a dozen or so Hubs in the last two years. I never, ever promote my Hubs (and haven't for the last six years or so). I'm active on these forums only because it's my online "home" and a great excuse not to do any real work! I've been receiving a monthly payout every month for eight of the nine years I've been here.
Well, unhappily, I left Hubpages in 2010/11 somewhere because I couldn't take the trolling on Hubpages. I met payout within three months and in under a year was making enough not to sneeze at it. I still left.
This time it has been tougher. I only got back onto hubpages because I was transferred from another site which I wasn't much interested in. I had actually lost all interest in writing on the web However, I noticed that I was earning, so about a year ago, I started writing again. Get a payout monthly, nowhere near as much as I used to, but enough to keep writing.
You're a very good example of why it's fine to leave HubPages - but if you leave, DON'T delete your Hubs.
It frustrates me that people don't understand they can earn good income here without ever having to interact with other Hubbers. So if you have a trolling problem, or you get fed up with the forums or the Q&A, all you have to do is switch off comments, ignore the forums, and let your Hubs sit quietly and earn money while you go and find a new place to socialise. It won't have a material effect on your earnings.
You are quite right. However, at the time, I didn't know what trolling was. I had no idea what I was doing to deserve the malice that was coming at me. It took me two years on Google Plus to begin to understand that people were self-interested and what trolling was. I took me another year and a half to understand that the best way of dealing with trolling was to simply delete their comments and block them.
It might have helped in management had a trolling policy and if they intervened, but they didn't. I wrote to them about it several times. Their attitude was 'Not our problem. Do what you like'
Yes, I regret deleting the hubs, but one lives with one's mistakes.
What can I say?
Marisa? I'm curious about something. I haven't been with Hubpages for very long, and here is my question. Why is it that the sign-up instructions for Hubpages warns newcomers about monetizing through Adsense before they have published their tenth Hubpages article? I would think that after someone has successfully published their fifth Hubpages article and are out of what is called "writer's boot camp," then it would be the perfect time for them to monetize on their articles through Adsense and their other advertising methods offered by Hubpages.
Because finding a topic that will get onto the serps is not as easy as it sounds. We are all in competition with a billion other people on the web for those top slots.
Google only deigns to give you an Adsense account when you have a good number of solid pages to show them.
You can apply with 5 if you like, but you will have more chance with 10.
As Will says, Adsense will not even consider you until you have at least ten Featured Hubs, so HubPages are just trying to save you from wasting time by applying earlier.
Oh, dear. So this means I really do have to WRITE! I mean WRITE MORE! It sure is easy to get involved in other projects, like Christmas, New Years', family, committee meetings, travel, socializing, etc. Okay, gotta buckle down. Just 8 more Hubs to go before I can apply! Yiii!
Marisa? Could I still sign up for the HubPages Earning Program without associating a Google Adsense account with the Ad Program? I know that I should not attempt to open a Google Adsense account before I publish my tenth Hub. However, I would like to take advantage of the HubPages Earning Program before then to start monetizing on my literary work.
You can sign up for it any time, but you can't start earning from it until you have your Adsense account.
Frankly, you'll get so few external visitors in your first month or so, you're not missing out on more than a few pennies, so don't worry about it.
Wow -- I read your hub "Tooth Regeneration Must Prevail!" and it's truly unique!
hey can i ask which type of articles should be written on hubs just example???????????????????????????
It's been quite some time since I have published a new article. It would be five years now. I have a few accounts. Some here, some were on Squidoo before it moved over. And I continue to earn money each month. Some accounts pay out monthly, others take a few months, some take even longer.
I did nothing in terms of promoting these articles. Though I put in a lot of hard work for a few years.
I'm back now tidying up broken links and updating the Amazon articles. Tidying things up. Because I believe that the articles will be the better for it and my earnings can improve.
It can take some time to make a payout on HP. Anywhere from 6 months to a couple years, depending on the traffic your Hubs receive.
It's really dependent on traffic. Organic traffic specifically. Which mean to earn money you have to know how to get traffic. This involves either writing a lot of articles, knowing how to use social media to promote articles or learning SEO. SEO primarily means that you know what keyword phrases to use in titles, you know what phrases to use in titles that people will be looking for via the search engine (mainly Google). Understanding SEO as far as I"m concerned is the best way to go, because then you get organic traffic and don't have to constantly work for it.
You can get traffic just by writing and writing about what you know and love, but it will be hit or miss as far as getting traffic goes; might or might not work.
Oh, and I always say this to people who are trying to figure out how to get traffic and earn here, because I think it's a good idea: You should read Wrylilt's Hub on getting keywords from Google Auto Suggest. It's a good starting point. Keep in mind Hubs should be of good quality too, well written with details, useful info, easy to read, well formatted,etc.
Thanks for your advice. I observe, all of you have a greater score. Hence, you have more experience on hub pages. I couldn't make out what do you mean by 'organic traffic'. Most of my articles are on food and health. Is it o.k? Or I have to switch to some other niche?
Organic traffic means "natural" traffic - traffic that comes from visitors who've used a search engine like Google. Non-organic traffic traffic would be traffic from links and social media. Links are good though. If people post links to your site, it's good for your article, can make it get a good position in search results on the search engines.
I'm not too familiar with the viability of articles on food and health. I thought they do well, not sure. Probably depends on how well you've narrowed down the subject.
Having a high score has nothing to do with earnings. I had a great score for 3 years, even reaching 100 for months at a time. I was earning pennies. Many others have said this before, but I'm telling you from experience. Pay no attention to the score.
Have you tried sharing your post links to social media sites; twitter, FB, Linkedin , etc....
It does help to increase your page views.
The more your views comes in per day, your earning increases.
I had been here for 7 years already.
Last month alone, I had earned $3.50 but I didn't post any hubs for 1 year, since I have more than 100 hubs here....
But, I do keep sharing my hubs post links at social media sites and other writing sites, it helps to increase $$$
It took 3 years to cash out.BUT,i only had 16 articles.and i had stopped writing two years before. Recsntly i have been sharig them.And also editing the title so its more search friendly.You want to get your articles on facebook,pintetest,twitter etc. And ping them to help create backlinks. You can do that on pingbomb .com , you just put the article link and it will create backlinks.it helps alot.
Hi and Welcome to Hubpages,
I agree with the others that it could take awhile to get a payout. I have been on Hubpages for 7 years now, just reached by 7th Hubbiversary! This is a great community and great to start out if you love writing and want to share info. I found it helpful to create my own 30 hubs in 30 day challenge...it was good practice in writing.
It can take a few months to reach the $50 payout. I am not as active as in past. There was more traffic for all of us a few years ago. The more active you are, the more your traffic may increase.
Someone asked about an apprenticeship. I would have loved to have done that but I don't think they are running that anymore.
I will soon write about my 7 year writing experience on Hubpages.
Keep on writing and good luck on Hubpages!
Yes, I just started, and my pages are up and running, I have ranked high in my categories already, I have the one post, but I also have a few blogs, I'm feeling pretty accomplished.
Stop writing and see how you can improve/promote what you've already written.
I very very rarely write any new hubs any more.
I get a payout every month.
You are lucky to get a regular payout. Because I am non-native, it matters.
I have been on hub pages ges for 6 years and payments are nothing much. Don't expect payments of any value. Try Blastingnews.com where with 3 months I earned $ 613.
same with me, I don't post any new hubs here but still get $$$ every month without fail..
I use a free site to give me SEO ideas: http://lsigraph.com/
I'm relatively new to HP but I've been ghostwriting for a while and this is the tool I use for my freelance work.
Hope it helps.
Thanks, Tantalusguy. I will see the website mentioned by you.
Hi Shaila I wanted to add some information that might be helpful to you. Although your recipes are very interesting, they are not going to be searched for very often. The most popular recipe searches are for things like chocolate chip cookies, chocolate cake, etc. Does that mean you should start writing recipes like that? Not at all. You just need to realize that the recipes your write are not going to get much traffic. What is the best solution?
Write more recipes.
(If you are looking for more popular recipe subjects, you might write about a vegan curry dish. Almost all the curry dishes I see are for types of meat. Curry is a common word that Americans type in when looking for an Indian recipe. Vegan is also popular now. Play around with this.)
I do not agree with earner´s suggestion. He said to just stop writing and improve/promote what you already have. Okay, maybe when you have about 150 or so. As chriswilliam90 points out, it took him over 100 hubs to make payout. Read his subjects. It may take you a lot more.
Hubpages only takes 40% of your earnings. Writing a hub every few days is bound to help. Maybe you will even hit on that great hub that will get 1000 page views per day, and when it is added to your other hubs the total views/day will be significant.
If you are only on the Google adsense program, I do recommend you switch to the HP program. The earnings are better.
edit: A lot of newbies have problems with titles. Yours titles are great, definitely not the problem. Keep going!!!
I don't know, how to express my thanks to you! You have given me good advice. I will continue writing, I know I have fewer articles to my credit.
I don't know about HPprogramme. What is that? please explain.
That is the program that allows HP to show their ads on your page, instead of just Googles. It earns a little better.
If you want to try it, go to the "my account" page, there is a section about earnings. Click that, and near the top of the page there is a section about the ad program. It should be marked "active" for you to be earning more from HP. If it is not, click on "configure" and they will ask you to activate/deactivate the program.
Welcome to the site, Shaila!
I agree with the suggestions already posted here. One thing you'll need to do is to increase your Hubber score (that's the small number appearing on your profile photo). Our scores need to be above a certain number for our work to be seen in Google (I am not sure of the current number - it might be 85). I think each hub has to have a certain score, too - it's been a while since I read the criteria.
That is not meant to be punitive to anyone, it is a filtering mechanism Hubpages has to ensure the content Google sees is of the highest quality. It can take a while for a new writer's score to increase, and the quality of writing, skills in English and overall quality of the hub (such as use of photos, layout, length, etc.) are factored into it.
Your recipe titles sound delicious - I am primarily a vegetarian, and I love Indian food. I didn't read any of them closely, but I'd suggest briefly describing them in English (explain what a falafel is, for example, for those who may not know) and making sure all ingredients are translated into what we'd find in grocery stores in the USA or UK - what would we look for? The reason for this is that the readership here is primarily English speaking. You might also want to include international measurements and guidelines as well as the ones we use in the USA (such as the way we set ovens).
If your recipes are from another source, rewrite them enough to put them in your own words, and use other text to personalize each hub and make it more original. Use plenty of good, non-copyrighted photos, and cite the sources. Try to get your recipes to the quality level used for the special site HubPages has created for recipes, and then submit them for consideration.
A wonderful coworker I had a few years ago was from India and during one of our staff potlucks or birthdays, she brought in a recipe that had an ingredient similar to cream of wheat - it was savory, and was a great side dish. i tried hard to make it (even got the recipe) and I have yet to get it right I will try to watch your recipes in case you have on similar someday, and maybe I can finally master that dish!
It takes a long while for Google to know you're here and to rank your material in ways that get views. I get regular revenue now (not enough to live on, of course), but there were ups and downs in the site's traffic recent years when revenue was not as regular.
Best of luck with your writing here - and thanks for introducing yourself to us!
Marcy, there's no hubberscore minimum or hubscore minimum that makes your hubs visible to search engines, aka featured. It is determined on a hub by hub basis via QAP. A user with a hubberscore of 76 may very well have all their hubs featured, and featured hubs could have scores in the 70s and 60s. It's better for people to focus on writing and formatting if they want their hubs featured.
I was about to post to say the same thing. I think Marcy is confusing it with the rule about "no follow" links IN Hubs. Except for people trying to promote a website or blog, that rule needn't concern the average Hubber.
When your score drops below 85, your links become no follow.
....which is only a problem if you're using those links to promote another website. Real readers can still follow the links.
LOL - shows how much things have changed in the short time I have been here. You can't even have links to promote another site, so that little factoid is moot.
Yes you can have links that promote another site. You just can't be obvious about it. I'm sure you know, the rule is that it has to be relevant. That means you can't link to the front page of a site - you have to link to an article on that site that provides further information on the topic of the Hub.
I have had two such links snipped on a niche site but I put them back in again, because they were useful to the reader. Those Hubs haven't been moved back to HubPages and I haven't had any further communication about them.
Thanks, all of you. I gained some idea on how to continue on hub pages. I cook food myself. All food photos are clicked by me. I am a vegetarian, sometimes use egg in my recipes. Because I cook Indian and Indo-Chinese food, there may be fewer searches. I have to find out the way to promote my articles. It is a great feeling to know that you all are very helpful.
Thanks for clarifying, Marisa and GC - obviously it's been a while since I read the guidelines. Sorry for posting misinformation - I was going to edit the post, but the window of time for editing has closed!
I recall it was a common misunderstanding at the time, so you're not alone!
Thank you, Marcy. Tell me the name of the Indian food which you wanted to cook. I think, I can explain you about that.
You are writing on hub pages, not necessarily your own site. That means if you leave it up tohub,you may get very little traffic, no earnings. It is really up to you to promote your hubs and bring the people in. But even then, the revenue goes mostly to hub. Sure, some make money, but I assume the vast majority do not make much more (or less) than you do. Sending traffic to your own sites may be a better idea if you are wanting to earn quite a bit.
@Stephenteacher, the money does NOT go mostly to HubPages. Most of the money goes to the Hubber.
A lot of people seem to think that HubPages is raking in the money and paying writers peanuts. That's not how it works. Earnings are split 60/40.
For several years, Relache ran an annual survey of Hubbers and found that most of them earn less than $10 a year. That means HubPages makes less than $8 a year from those Hubbers.
HubPages makes money because a few writers write high-earning articles that earn spectacularly more than the average. Those Hubs are only a small percentage of total Hubs, but they earn over 70% of HubPages' income. Those are the Hubs which have been used to create the new niche sites.
The bottom line is that if the Hubber is making money, HubPages is making money. If the Hubber is earnign peanuts, so is HubPages.
stephenteacher: Have you ever owned your own site? Do you understand how difficult it is to set one up, let alone bring in enough traffic to make any money on it? You have the wrong idea about HP, so should try to learn the facts before giving negatively biased advice.
HP is a business. They do all of the web work required to make this quite possibly the best writing site on the web. Doing this isn't cheap. They have to employ staffers, deal with Google, keep up with the financials, etc. Writers here do't have to do any of that.
Furthermore, their set up makes it easy for people to create professional looking articles here.
I have always considered this to be one of the most cleverly arranged and user friendly sites on the Web.
As a result, I'm happy to give up 40% of my earnings because without them, I don't think I'd be earning anything much. How do I know this? I have my own site, and my success with it has been dismal, even though here at HP I've had more than 869000 page views.
I knew nothing about how to create online articles when I came here, but this site gave me a free education that now allows me to earn here.
So, before you warn people away, get your facts straight. You always have the choice to create your own site, and if you think this is best, you should go ahead and give it a try.
Just make sure that before you do, you know what you're doing.
I own and run several sites, and have since 1996.
Well said. I consider hubpages the best content writing site on the web. And I am extremely grateful for the support I get from so many.
I think hub pages helps writers to earn money. I believe, I have to improve my writing skill to attract more traffic.
I agree with TimeTravel2 about using this website being MUCH easier and more successful than using another site or creating a site of our own and trying to compete. I wrote for about 3 years for Examiner.com, had some success, made a little money, and learned a lot. But that site was a poor imitation of HubPages, much less easy to use, and brought in fewer readers and a lower quality of writing. AND in August or so of this year (2016), it became an all-entertainment site, leaving the rest of us writers with nothing, no product online! I retain the rights to my writing and photos, so now I'm rewriting, to fit HubPages guidelines AND to get on the niche sites. But it is frustrating, as I'm mostly rewriting, not writing creatively. However, I feel HubPages is much more secure, offering a stronger platform for my writing. And niche travel site WanderWisdom is much more inviting to the reader! I do have my own website, and I can link to HubPages from it, but I don't see how it could ever compete with HubPages.
Thanks. I have a doubt. Please... if the writer stops writing for Hubpages and wants to come out of it, whether the author has the right on his already published articles? whether he can reuse them somewhere else?
Thanks, Sanjay. I am working on it. If you don't mind, how long it took you to get your first payment? Just to get an idea about my future earning on HP.
You can't gauge your own success here by somebody else's, so hearing how others did with payment times won't help you much. Some people take a year and a half or more, some never make it, and some earn very quickly. Much depends on your knowledge of how to write online, use SEO, and, of course, your subject matter and writing ability.
It took me more than a year to earn the first pay out.
From experience, the first time I joined hubpages, it took me three months to reach my first payout. The second time I joined, I got transferred here and it was about 9 months before I took any interest. It took a long time to reach first payout - about 6 months, and then a payout every 2 months for 6 months, and after that a payout every month since then.
Payout depends strictly on the degree of traffic you receive, and that depends on whether your topic is searched for on the web and whether it is on page one. To do reasonably well, you need to have your article in number one place on the SERPS.
Thanks. I hope I will understand the things slowly with my experience and guidance from seniors.
Thanks, Tess. It's good to know your timelines, even if it is somewhat discouraging. So you're saying that we just need to be patient! And write well about the RIGHT topics! :-)
Me neither - it must be well over three years now. I barely touch them as some have (too) many Amazon capsules, but Amazon sales make up a good proportion of earnings. They really need work, I know, because of right aligned images, etc. This month I earned the most I've ever earned since the Apprentice program all that time ago - but still not as much as at Squidoo
2017 is off to a great start. The type of publishing we innovated in 2006 is having a renaissance in 2017.
My advice is go deep on the topic, take good photos and be original.
Folks that incorporate Amazon with precision have outsized earnings. The key is to be specific and very deep. For folks interested in writing product reviews, read some of thewirecutter or homesweethome.
Happy New Year!
Do you think it's having a renaissance in general, or is it the niche sites that have caused the resurgence? I'm also optimistic about 2017 for the HubPages family of sites - but I'm not seeing any sign of other generalist sites reviving.
I think the broader industry, where we participate is setup for success in 2017. Over the last year, I've met with some of the largest publishers regularly where we both share insights and we follow each others progress.
Breaking general sites into more focused sites has been a major factor, but it is also important to remember that there was extensive improvements before breaking sites up.
The trends I see from the most savvy publishers closely related to us are continue buildout of focused sites (niche sites), heavy investment in editing (we caught on to this relatively early, but UGC sites like stack exchange and quora were a head of us - I suspect we will pass them in process in 2017), and better monetization (fewer high performing ads).
For us, we need to do all of these, but also attract topical experts to continue to build on the foundation of each site.
Internally, I often explain our approach as a reverse pyramid. Where we started at the leaf/bottom level and now need to continue to build up to where eventually, people flow through the top (homepage) and the entire experience makes sense.
Clearly, lots to do, but the good news is network sites are healthy.
Likewise. I took a look, and as far as I can see, Hubpages is the best at what it does. I realized a couple of years ago that Google was rewarding nice specific sites, and I am so happy that HP took this route. I see good things ahead.
I also like the way the editors are set up now. Makes a lot of sense to me.
I'm still a newbie...can you tell me what exactly do you mean by incorporating Amazon with precision?
I believe that means choosing Amazon products carefully, and only using a few per Hub. Ideally you're able to talk about your first-hand experience with the product.
I reckon the consistency with which editors apply rules will have a big impact on the growth of the sites.
It requires a lot of work to produce a page that is good enough to rank well and earn money. A single lapse of judgement on the part of an editor and the rejection of a good-enough page, can lose the site a worthwhile writer.
I would err on the side of including (rather than rejecting) borderline content as the niche sites strengthen but be prepared to dump any page that does not perform well.
Yes, it's not always clear why one hub makes it onto a niche and another doesn't. The tips advice on editing are too broad/vague for someone like me who wants particular instructions/help on getting something featured in a niche site. If a hub is never going to make it, it would be instructive to know that, so that energies can be spent elsewhere.
If you get the email suggesting you make changes, you can safely ignore all the generic waffle in the first section, and just read the last bit which details specific issues. Fix those and it will be moved.
Apart from that, the only other tips I'd suggest are:
(a) Use callout capsules instead of your main headings, the editors seem to like them;
(b) If you're going to use right-floated capsules of any kind, use the Preview button to check they appear in the correct position on Mobile view, since that's the most important view;
(c) Check off as many of the Stellar Guidelines (in the top right hand of the Hub in edit mode) as you can.
And, of course, it mustn't break any of the stricter new rules. If you need to refresh on those, my Hub on the rules summarises them.
promote promote promote. that is what brings in the money. If you think about it, if you promote your hub then adsense will put up the right ads for the visitor. our job as hubbers is to promote good hubs for them to advertise on.
Google traffic is worth so much more than any traffic that you can bring via social media.
Creating backlinks is perilous these days.
If you are writing on HP, it is all about choosing topics that are not saturated and making sure that the pages are high quality.
I agree While I get some traffic from social media, pintrest, flipboard, etc. about half my traffic is from google.
Over 95% of my traffic is from Google on successful hubs. It is very much the kingmaker.
How does one promote without people losing interest in reading your stuff?
This comes back to what we discussed before. If you don't have a specialist subject, promoting to a fixed network becomes ineffective over time.
If you have a specialist subject, people join your networks (Facebook, Google Plus, Pinterest etc) because they're interested in that subject. They will devour everything you post, because they love the subject. They will bring in other enthusiasts so your network will grow. You can curate good posts by other people on the same topic, creating a sense of community.
If you don't have a specialist subject, then chances are your network is composed of friends, family and other writers. Friends and family read your posts to be kind, but that soon wears off, understandably. Other writers read your stuff to be supportive, but that also tails off - especially if you're more prolific than them, and therefore they're not getting "tit for tat". So reader fatigue is a big problem.
You see this even on paid networks like CritiqueCircle.com, where I'm currently posting chapters of my novel. Most writers find there are plenty of people willing to crit the early chapters, but as the chapters roll on, fewer and fewer people will read them - even though they get paid to critique! That's because only those genuinely interested in the story will stick with it.
That's really interesting, Marisa.
None of my social networking sites have family and friends. And I purposely blocked all writers from any of my sites. All my social networking sites are based on interests - international politics and international economics, minimalism, environmentalism, creativity, and travel. Mostly, I got to know people on my sites through the years, and have subsequently met some of them through HIRLs (Hang out in Real Life)
Here's some information about my traffic on hubpages
1 About half or slightly more than half comes from google
2. A lot comes from pinterest, but I didn't put the links there, others did.
3 A lot comes from facebook, but I didn't put the links there. Others did.
4. I recently joined flipboard (I love it) and posted some links. I got some traffic.
That said, when I do post, I am very careful to make sure that it's only one post every three of our days and that I've posted twenty or thirty other things before that. I get a few hits from G+, none from pinterest, and a handful from facebook.
My traffic from those sites come because other people have taken stuff I've written and shared it on specific interest sites. That confirms what you have said.
Unfortunately, none of my specific interests are particuarly money making, and I will always be a generalist - not that I lack the knowledge. I just would get bored doing one thing.
SEO is something that I'm still trying to understand but yes it is a big traffic booster. I always try to have an on point title to say what the hub is about..but not sure most of the time if it is search friendly.
Quite a few threads address that issue, like this one: http://hubpages.com/community/forum/139 … le-suggest
SEO and Niche finding is one of the key to get any payout in Hubpages. Article quality and engagement is another part.
You also need patience.
Enjoy the platform and learn but you need to have a day job. Its hard to rely on hubpages to survive.
I find you are writing interesting recipes. So you do stand a chance of earning money. Maybe writing continental recipes once a while could do the magic. Because that could win you foreign readers.
See in India, people do not click on ads that easily. I don't want to discourage you. But I have not made any money so far. And yet I am sticking on because I find HubPages a good platform. This is also true that I have written just about 6 Hubs. Basically, it's my hope that keeps me going. Besides, I have met quite a few well-wishers and good advisors.
All the best to you!
I'd certainly agree with others regarding the initial hurdle in receiving any payments on HubPages. It took me around 6 months from starting my journey before I had a payout. As of late my time spent on HubPages has dwindled, although this is something I'm going to be rectifying in the near future.
When you're starting out though, the most important thing is to enjoy writing insightful hubs without the goal being to earn $XXX. If you simply jump in with the goal of making a large sum of money right away then you're going to be disappointed in the long term.
Always give best content in your articles and maintain stable frequency in article posting, you will see results soon.
I've been a member of HP for three years and never made payout. I have 98 hubs (one is now in a niche, one is being edited for another niche.) I make barely a little over a dollar every month, sometimes less than a dollar. I share my hubs via social media outlets (Google Plus, Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest) and will try Flipboard this spring. Make sure you visit other hubs and comment on them--we would do the same for you. We used to share over HP before the change of removing that option last year. Follow hubbers as well to grow a following. Keep writing, keep trying, keep sharing. I hope to make payout someday this year. I never gave up. Hang in there.
@Kristen, if I can offer some tips:
The first thing to do is double-check that you've got your account properly set up! I know it's an obvious thing, but sometimes things go wrong or drop out, and we don't notice. Make sure you're signed up and active for everything.
Visiting other Hubs, commenting and following are nice things to do. It's a way of making contact with other writers and motivating them and yourself. It will never earn you a cent and it doesn't help other Hubbers earn money either! In fact, it can be counter-productive because if we're spending all our time reading and commenting on each other's work, we're not writing and we're not reaching out to external readers! I liken it to spending all your time at the water-cooler at work instead of getting the job done.
Sharing your Hubs on social outlets will do little or nothing, unless you have a wide following that extends beyond family and friends, AND you have a specialist subject (because in non-fiction, people don't follow writers, they follow subjects they're interested in).
Creative writing - poetry, fiction, literary pieces - does not make money on HubPages, generally. Also, "how to write" is a saturated subject, and articles by already-published authors will always get more attention than yours, so they will never earn well either. I see you've written a lot on fitness, and I'd say those articles are the ones you should focus on. If none of them have been selected for the niche sites, that tells you there is something fundamental that needs to be addressed. You have the necessary writing skills, so you need to look at structure and subject.
HI Marisa. Sure. My account has been properly set up for Adsense and Amazon and HP since I've joined 3.5 years ago. I have my Arizona hub in the editing queue for Wander List and my Netgalley hub is now part of Letterpile as on yesterday. I did revise my Pilates Break hub (per Solares's suggestion from 2015) and revamped it. It did give it a boost in the score. I do have a big Twitter, Pinterest and Facebook following, a moderate one on Google Plus. I haven't tried Flipboard yet. As for the niches, I've selected my own hubs to go to a niche and not the other way around--only my Expresssive Writing hub was declined last fall, because they wanted me to rework it the hub and I passed on it. But look at my Self-Editing hub, Marisa. It has the most amount of views out of all of them. I'm happy to share my conference notes in all writing/editing/publishing aspects with others. P.S.I haven't done any changes with my book blog in over a year or so.
I'm sure you did set up your accounts properly when you joined 3.5 years ago, and that you activated your Adsense account with your snail-mailed PIN number a month or two later as required. I'm just saying, don't assume it's still OK. People have had strange things happen, like their Adsense account getting disconnected due to some glitch, so it's important to check now and then.
For example, my Adsense account was set to allow authorised websites only - and just the other day, I discovered that I'd clean forgotten to add the niche sites to the list. Which meant my Hubs on the niche sites hadn't earned anything from Adsense since they were launched .
As for the rest - I was, of course, making guesses based on the fact that you're not making payout. With your number of Hubs, you should be making payout a few times a year by now.
Please don't think I'm questioning your level of knowledge on writing, just saying that some people will make (unfair) assumptions about your advice based on your published status. And on the subject of writing, if you're writing a novel then I thoroughly and passionately recommend CritiqueCircle.com to you. It's a wonderful way to get help to polish your novel to the best it can be, ready for submission to agents, and it's totally free. Unlike some other crit sites, people can do inline critiques - it's almost like having an editor go through your work - and I find you get more honest crits than when you're in a face-to-face real-life critique group.
Now that we can submit one Hub every two weeks, I think it would be worth revamping your Pilates Hubs and see if you can get them moved. Looking at them, many of them provide useful information on Pilates BUT the introductions sound as though you're only going to talk about your own exercise. Just talking about how well or badly you're doing isn't of interest to anyone. Try to switch them around so you offer useful information right from the beginning of the Hub -- then you can explain how it's been useful to you later, not vice versa.
Hehe. Just yesterday I went into my Adsense account to add letterpile and owlcation. I did already have a few other niche sites added. It would be helpful to include a small note at the end of all the "acceptance to niche site" messages we receive that says we should add the new niche site to our allowed list of sites on Adsense.
I've just added them all, on the principle that it's unlikely HubPages would use my Adsense ID fraudulently on the other niche sites and it means I don't have to remember to do it later.
May I ask where you'd go on the Adsense account to add the niche sites?
I cannot seem to connect to the Internet on my laptop right now. But if I remember it right you click on my ads and then on the left menu you see my sites. I can add details to what I said it in a few hours if you don't find it and if no one else replies.
You click on settings > My sites. The rest should be clear.
So where it says to only allow verified sites to use my ad code, do I turn that on?
That's really upto you. It's safer to do that because right now anyone could use your publisher ID on any site. And if it's on a bad site it could lead to your account being banned.
If you do change the settings make sure to add hubpages.com (main domain only. No need of www or any subdomain element) and the niche sites and any other websites where you earn from adsense
Lol. I don't have the patience nor will to do that.
Just a thought, check your Adsense account and make sure you've got HubPages.com on there, not your sub-domain, since that doesn't exist any more.
That's a good point, I just realized it still has my subdomain listed under the Hubpages site. Thank you for your help.
Yep it's still there on the website and under my Earnings tab. No worries here.
...and you've checked on your Adsense account that you've got HubPages.com and the niche sites listed as allowed sites? And there are no warnings on the Adsense account? Just checking.
I can't afford an editor either, which is why I'm on CC. It must be a while since you've been there, because they are far from being just sci-fi and fantasy. They have a General queue as well as a Romance, Suspense etc.
Don't wait for traffic to pick up on that Pilates Hub. With the new criteria, they don't worry about traffic - they're just looking at whether the Hub is good quality. So you are losing time by not submitting it immediately.
I've heard of Critique Circle Marisa. But it's not for my genre, since I don't do adult sci fi or fantasy. But my conferences workshops I've taken in the past are based on how to write/edit/publish books. It doesn't hurt to share my wealth of knowledge to others either. I've been a member of an online crit list, as I also a couple of beta readers, critique partners, and a local writing group to help me polish my chapters for free. I can't afford an editor right now. Check out The Benefits of Taking a Break from Pilates. That's the revamped one I've done based on Solares' suggestions. As soon as it traffic picks up, I'll move it over in the spring. It's going to take me a long time to revamp each Yoga and Pilates hub this year, when I'm working on one at a time and writing new hubs on different subject too. It depends when I get an Upwork assignment as well to squeeze it in. I'm planning to revamp my Yoga Break one next month. I plan to submit one of my most viewed health hubs on the top greens in two weeks.
Yep. It's still there--Amazon, HP and adsense with Hubpages on it. Here's my link: https://www.google.com/adsense/new/u/0/ … 6606/home. All listed as active, including Google Analytics. I have no idea why I never received payout. Maybe I should contact HP about it. No warnings whatsoever. For the record, I do have interest from agents and 2 small pubs on 3 of my novels. I know what works for querying, writing and editing, etc. It's something I'm more knowledgeable in my field. I might not be published, but I'm closed to it and now how queries work to get interest Okay. I'll send it over later this spring. As for the Pilates hub, it's going to take me some time to revamp each and every one--yoga too, for the good part of the year. I also want to try to write new hubs in between as well.
Like I said, I'm not querying your knowledge. I'm saying your name is not known by the public, and they are more likely to trust advice from someone they have heard of, or someone who has a reputation in the industry.
We can't see your Adsense or HP Earnings pages from those links, only you can.
And here's from my Earnings page: https://hubpages.com/my/earnings/affiliate/
I've 7 out of my 14 hubs on niche sites (only started a few weeks ago) but now looking at the discussion here I have to configure my Adsense account that I've just got.However, when I go intp settings as advised to add niche sites, there is not facility to don this ie, not other boxes. The only one I seen to be able to have is the hubpages.com, so I don't know what to do tho add the niche sites. This is how it;s configured as below. Please help! Thanks
Please specify the primary language of your website.
This may be something best done as a new forum thread
First of all congrats on getting approved.
This is just to create your adsense account. You need to accept if you want to join the Adsense program. Once you have your adsense account all set up you then login and go to settings and add other websites. By default ads are allowed to show on all websites, but for security purposes you may want to chose to show ads only on websites you approve.
Yes, create a new thread if you want more info.
Thanks everyone for the replies. Thought I had set it up,but will start a new forum if can't manage.
Okay Marisa. I did contact HP with those links. I hope they can help me figure out why I'm not making payout at all. I see. Well I understand. Maybe when I land an agent/editor someday and published, maybe I'll be well known. But I know what works with querying and such.
Marissa, I've heard back from HP: Hello Kristen,
Your balance as of right now is $47.40. In order to get paid you have to reach the minimum payout threshold of $50. Once you have earned $50 you will be paid on the 28th of the following month.
The guide on how to update Hubs to increase traffic may be helpful: https://hubpageshelp.com/content/Learni … se-traffic
Please let us know if you have any questions.
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I'm curious to see if earnings will pick up again soon after a lull the past month and a half for both views and CPMs.
I'm sure the new changes to the main site will help some but what about going forward. I'm asking because I never had consistent payout earnings for this time of year last year so I'm wondering what the trend usually is.
October through mid January have been huge for earnings but not so much now.
There is quite a bit of seasonality to the media business. Q4 is the strongest. Q1 is typically the weakest, but CPMS tend to improve rove from here.
I figured Q4 was the strongest and Q1 the weakest but wasn't sure how the other two stock up. Typically Q2 and Q4 tend to be the most profitable at least in the tech industry but media can be a bit trickier. I know the niches also play a big role for obvious reasons.
Yes, niche matters. The last month of each quarter tends to be stronger than the preceding two months.
Overall, cpms tend to get stronger throughout the year, but traffic lulls over the summer as it relates to the general trend.
Good. All the best for you. Your post is an inspiration for me to write more.
hubpages is linked with paypal and paypal has the minimum withdrawal limit of $10 for U.S Dollars but hubpages have a payment threshold of 50$ minimum.I don' know whether the criteria has changed or not but when the hubpage payment threshold is availed they will automatically transfer money in your account
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