Hubscore - part 2

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   Peter Owenposted 12 years ago

   I had a bunch of forum posts two months ago about hubscore dropping due to following too many people. It got so much action that I wrote  hub about it.
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   New question on Hubscore:
   When I write a hub, and people comment, I usually respond to each comment by writing a follow-up comment. It just occurred to me that my making a number of comments under my own hub could possibly cause the system to rate down my Hubscore.
   But there is no other way to really respond to another person's comment.
   Should I be concerned with making too many comments under my own Hub??

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I think most hubbers try to respond to comments received.  I know I do and it has never caused a problem.
      
      The bigger question, though, is why you are so concerned about the score?  It does little to nothing for you, although I have noted an increase in new followers when the score hits 99 or 100.  Followers who never read a hub or leave a comment, just follow.

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         Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I pretty much have always responded to all comments, other than the two-worders (like "good Hub").  It's never caused any problem with any scores as far as I can tell.  In fact, recent changes made me "brave enough" (or tired enough) to remove comment capsules from most of my Hubs,  because responding had become like a part-time job for me; and because the comments were about serious things I didn't have the heart not to respond.  (So my point is that I've made lots and lots of responses to comments without seeing any dramatic drops in scores.)

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   Peter Owenposted 12 years ago

   Thx.
   Two reasons for concern with hubscore
   1) I think a lot of people will tend to read a hub if the hubber has a higher score. Can't be certain, just a guess
   2) pure EGO, and this is probably the primary reason

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      WryLiltposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What people? Other members?
      
      Other hubbers don't bring you money or usually, more traffic. You'll get views from them in the first few weeks but those views will soon drop off, leaving you with traffic from search engines. And search engine traffic is very unlikely to notice numbers.

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         Peter Owenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         thx.
         Yes - other hubbers. I agree their reading doesn't usually bring money, unless they click on an ad. But all it takes is a few to email or suggest the hub to other people and it could easily get outside traffic. Would be hard to track, but I really don't see any downside here.

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            Glenn Stokposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Peter, it's not hard to track if traffic is coming from people clicking on links in their email that someone else sent them. I see it all the time. You can see your traffic sources under your "My Account" tab and then click "Traffic Sources" - if you see anything like "mail.yahoo.com" or "mail.google.com"  that is from someone's email.

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               Peter Owenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Ah - I learn something every day here.
               thx

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   Personally I think the hubscore is just a clever why to create social capital and get people to act in certain ways that are desirable for the company but maybe not immediately profitable for the user.  Nothing wrong with that, it is one of the very effective tools HubPages employs to build content-provider loyalty. But if choosing between what makes more money and what makes a higher hubscore, the latter would always lose with me.

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      Peter Owenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      do you really have to choose? I should think what is good for one will be good for the other.

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         psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         They overlap, but certainly not 100%

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            PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, I agree, hubscore doesn't really matter much and none of the experienced hubbers pay it much attention as far as I can see.  That doesn't seem to stop some people getting very hot under the collar about it, though, judging by the heated discussion on Peter's hub.
            
            I value the hubber community for some of the great info and advice I get and for general convo.  I value the Google search people and other external traffic as the people who are most likely to generate revenue.

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   LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years ago

   Hub scores and your profile score don't do much except if they fall to under 72. Then they become "no follows" for outgoing links.
   
   As far as the profile score, It appears to add a degree of reputability. This reputability is in "supposition" only. By reading hubs, only then can you truly ascertain the reputation as an author of any hubber.

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      PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, that's a good answer.  I said hubscore doesn't matter.  But it's true that if I see someone with a hubscore of 1, then I am immediately suspicious, I admit.  Normally with good reason it turns out.

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   LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years ago

   Since it seems that a growing number of writers keep having concerns regarding hub scores and profile scores, here are my deductions based on my two month analysis.
   
   Hub scores are based on the number of visitors on a per day basis.
   Hubs receive a starting score when they are first published, or saved pre-published. This is usually around 50. Hubs that receive a higher hub score even when they have not yet been published, do so due to key word commonalities/frequency.
   
   Example 1: a hub titled Red Shirt School of Photography has a uncommon title,that deals with a little searched complete topic. However the words;Red-Shirt-School-Photography are common words, so the score for the hub is based on these words. It's initial score was 51.
   
   Example 2. Hub titled The Cosplay Photographic Style, is also a seldom searched complete topic. However the word cosplay has few commonalities with other key words. This word alone set the unpublished score of the hub at 62. When published two days later it had a hub score of 65.
   
   Profile scores: This score is based on the number of visitors per a determinate time frame. You have seen hubers with years on the site, many followers, many hubs and profile scores in the 70's. Yet by the same token there are hubers with 8 weeks on this site,6 hubs, 13 followers and a profile score of 93.
   
   Hub hoping, forum participation, answers and questions, commenting does help  but this appears to be minimal contributors.
   
   This points to an long held belief & advice which has been posted on many occasions that quality hubs, in niche topics and of original content is the main contributor to succeed in Hubpages.
   
   No I don't work for Hubpages, but I have been a business and procedural annalist, among other things, for quite a few years.

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   LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years ago

   A side note: I applied the strategy which I previously posted for my last hub: Kinetic and Spirit Photography. This hub is number one on the first page of Google after just 2 days. Kinetic has few commonalities with other key words, spirit and photography have many commonalities. But Kinetic-Spirit and Photography used in combination rendered a better search result. The hub is also on the first page through Shetoldme and Redgage.

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