I say there should be a vote up or down option on individual forum posts as well, it will surely make the forums much better and it will be awesome
The forums are acrimonious enough without people voting on every post : /
Up/down voting would just bring the messiest part of the answer section here, and not actually provide any value or improvement to the communications.
Ok minor correction - Vote down not vote up
I see so many irrelevant posts around here. In the answer section if an answer gets many vote downs its blocked until you say you want to see it. That would remove so much clutter around here. Just like Uninvited Writer says (partly)
What would remove clutter around here is people being smart enough to not reply to spam posts or things that should be flagged and removed. Sadly, there's no way that's going to happen.
And, IMO, what you are proposing would only increase the angry "hey, that's so unfair!" nonsense that already occurs.
Maybe in the political forums we can have a Vote Left / Right button
The idea is a recipe for having groups of people gang up to bully and victimise a specific individual by voting down everything that person posts.
As such, I am totally against it.
Seriously, I hate the thumbs up/thumbs down feature on forums, for exactly the same reasons as you. It's one more way to encourage infantile behaviour.
But you just used +1 that's equivalent to the vote up....
Btw I'm against it now after reading the comments here
But I also LOL'd to show I was being ironic. Unfortunately irony does often get lost in translation
Seriously, I've participated on forums where they have the vote up/vote down feature and it does give rise to some unpleasant pettiness. It's not so bad when the score is an aggregate, but when you can see how many down votes someone's got, then it's just an open invitation for small-minded individuals to thumb down people they don't like, for no reason whatsoever.
I think a more useful approach would be to block forum posting privileges from anyone who has zero published hubs. The block would reactivated if at any time all published hubs become unpublished, and be lifted once a hub was republished.
This would get rid of nearly all spammers and many sockpuppets immediately. It would prevent all the whining threads from people who have had every single hub unpublished because of spinning/duplication.
I don't see why the forums should be open to people who have no intention of ever writing hubs. As for genuine new members, the vast majority are not going to remain without any hubs for all that long. During the short time they spend producing their first hub, they could still read the forums and get a feel for the community. This sort of initial lurking is frequently recommended to people joining new communities anyway.
The only difficulties would be caused to the very, very few people who have genuine technical difficulties which prevent them from producing their first hub. That could be solved by having a list available and prominently displayed of hubbers, who are willing to be contacted by people needing help with technical problems. I am sure it would not be impossible to find volunteers for this role.
I agree with WiteAngled, but not just after one hub. I think new members must be here maybe two weeks and three hubs or something. We don't want those sockpuppets publishing one hub just to be able to post on forums.
As for those having their hubs unpublished for serious violations then they are put on probation for a little while even after having their hubs republished.
While this suggestion has come up before (many, MANY times over the last five years), it has never been enacted because it would prevent brand-new, valid site users who don't have any Hubs published yet from asking for help, other than by writing directly to the admin team. And while that's how it was done in HubPages Year One (when no forums existed yet), I think it's safe to say that admin is not about to go back to hand-holding new users now that they've passed that duty on to the community at large.
I see your point. It's left up to us to make sure the forums are kept free of abuse and misuse.
Ya know... I have to say... No matter what comes along, the community has successfully cleaned it up. This may not be unique to HP, but it is certainly a rarity. This place is amazing.
It's not just that "it's left up to us," it's how this site has been designed and is intended to work. And what it comes down to is continually and steadily cleaning up around whatever else you are doing on the site.
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