Content thief steals my best hub..

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   Just reporting a content thief, any advice except DMCA?

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      jtylerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Who stole your article and where is it?

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         relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Outing people is not how these matters are supposed to be handled, and can get people banned in the forums if interpreted as personal attacks and bickering.
         
         Richie, file the notice first with the person whose page is it, and if they don't comply then go to the ISP for the site.  I find web hosting services are really responsive to takedown notices.

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            Richieb799posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Relache, I'm just filing a DMCA compliant, I wrote a furious email to the site owner, first reactions I guess..

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               Jerrico Usherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Made  a hub of this post as it was lonngggg. In a nutshell:
               
               There are many more things than simply filing a DCMA that would help get your content taken down- I can tell you that trying to be intimidating with rage or yelling or threats won't do anything but trigger their ego.
               
               Using a strategy like sending an email with legal terms, a copy of copyright law and the DCMA you filed along with follow up emails that you've taken action to contact their hosting company, their ISP, and the domain company they purchased their domain from.
               
               All of which have TOS rules not to use copyrighted content or breaking copyright law- can be very intimidating- especially if you post those rules for each part of their site (domain,hosting, ISP use)... If you want more detail as to my strategy check out my latest hub on this...
               
               Using strategy not anger works magic, especially if you know your rights and show them what they're up against...
               
               Many people who steal content use scrapers to do it and aren't that vested in keeping it on their site- figuring if you do contact them they'd just remove it.
               
               But knowing that they are using your copy for monetary gain gives you a nice scare tactic as you have the right to sue them for any earnings made using your copy- often they will bow down and remove it rather than fight a battle they know they'll lose.
               
               Good Luck! Fight these Jerks- if for no other reason than to protect your hard work.

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   Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

   Have you "established authorship" with Google+?  I don't know how effective it is, or will become; but I've seen some improvement in that kind of thing since I did it.  I can't help but think the copied ones that were showing up with mine (and have now disappeared) may have shown up as "duplicate" without authorship established, and been dumped to the "zillionth" page somewhere (if nothing else).  I've established the heck out of authorship on my stuff.  Maybe it's a coincidence that I've seen some improvement.  I have a feeling it probably isn't.

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      Richieb799posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Is this hard to do? I haven't had chance, I'm just concerned because this my best hub

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         Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         No, it isn't hard.  Glenn Stok has a hub specific to HP, but the Google directions are enough if you are at all techy.
         
         http://glennstok.hubpages.com/hub/compl … directions
         http://www.google.com/support/webmaster … er=1229920

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            Richieb799posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Mate, I put links on both profiles, how long before my pic appears beside my article in search results?

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               Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Maybe never.
               
               Apparently they only do that with really famous people.  I've had authorship in place at my main site from the day they announced it and I  get no picture :-(

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   They copied my article word for word on a domain they have purchased, this article was written by me in May 2010, the content actually refers to 'hubs' specifically in the text

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   Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

   That's what they do - copy the whole business, word for word.  Then it will show up in places like Turkish newspapers.  I had one show up on Korean blog somewhere.  The thing didn't have Ad Sense, but there'd be my Hub and then (sometimes) a few/several others right there too.  If I search certain lines of some of the Hubs that had the most problems they'll show up in a search, but they're way, way, off the first page or two these days.
   
   I figure, though, it's also going to deter some people who have Ad Sense accounts from risking being found to have stolen/copied stuff.

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      Richieb799posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Lisa, this perpetrator is from France, it hasn't stopped them having Adsense, I told them they are violating Adsense TOS and I've filed DMCA complaint with conclusive evidence they stole it.

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   Pcunixposted 12 years ago

   BTW, Richie: was it HP's dupe checker that caught this or do you use something else?  I used to use Edweirdo's, but Panda killed that for him, sadly.

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      Richieb799posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry Ive been out guys, I thought I'd check my best hub by pasting part of the text in Google, they have taken 3/4 word for word and in part of the text it even refers to 'hubs'
      
      Thanks Jericho, I will send those bits of information and mention about suing them, I'll already sent them a receipt of the DMCA request to Google.

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         Jerrico Usherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I don't mention suing or lawyers right off the bat, just a friendly email asking them to politely remove my copywritten work off their site with a copy of the DCMA (and a 24 hour time period before I take "further" action). Most people are amatures (why they steal the work) and this will be enough- second step if they ignore this.
         
         next my follow up email covers their ISP/domain/hosting TOS clips as a scare tactic and I mention I have a lawyer and will not hesitate to sue (very breifly state that or they think your trying to scare them, even if you are). If they ignore that  I take steps to contact their ISP/hosting service/domain seller (where they purchased it there is acutally a tos on it).
         
         AFTER I do this I send a third email and if they ahve a number in whois I call them directly and have a little chat- I keep it to 30 seconds to a minute- I don't ask anything I just state who i am, that they stole my copy, I've warned them and have contacted their ISP (I mention who that is, who their hosting provider is and domain contact to reinforce I'm serious), I then tell them their ISP/domain/hosting provider will be in touch and in 24 hours from now My lawyer will be in touch.
         
         It has never gotten past that phone call or 3rd email-
         
         Patience is the key, and not losing your cool. Treat it like any business transaction.

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            couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not sure U.S. Copyright Law effects anyone outside the U.S.  Or if it does, how can one follow through?

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               Richieb799posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Copyright would effect the Hosting Company GoDaddy which is not an offshore server

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   They still haven't replied to my email, I found the email address on WhoIs, this was a few hours ago. I should have spotted they'd copied it sooner than this...but next step is contact GoDaddy if they don't remove it.
   
   By The Way, what Copyright protection do we get with Hubpages? I'm a little rusty..

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      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      On HP, you're protected under U.S. Copyright Law.  There are no state copyright laws.  Once you publish it, you're automatically protected.  You can register anything you write as well in the case of a dispute regarding time of publication but I think all hubs are dated internally. 
      
      You can go to my hub "The Truth About Copyrights"

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   I didn't really lose my cool as such, sounds like I did pretty much what you said. Its my hub that earns me a lot of money, I will give it until tomorrow evening and then contact GoDaddy

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   I also mentioned if they don't remove it, the hosting company and DMCA complaint will force the removal of my content from their site, not losing my cool, just clarifying to them.

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   I can't really phone them, they live in France!

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