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   THEHuG5posted 13 years ago

   I'm feeling really discouraged at HP lately. Everything was going great and then my new hubs from the past 3 days started getting unpublished for "deceptive tags" and "unrelated links" even though I couldn't find any of these issues on my hubs and no matter how much I edit them (even to the point where I don't even like them anymore) I'm still getting these alerts. One of my hubs even got labled "irrevocable" which was really annoying since I spent so much time on it. Has anyone else had this problem lately?

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      Shadesbreathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Just a thought, but if you are linking to 7 or 10 of your other articles at the bottom of your many of your hubs (I only looked at a couple), that can't be helping. 2 or 3 tops. And, with Panda 3.4, that's probably too much, but I'm only guessing.
      
      Also, a couple of the handful I looked at are really, really, really short, like, four pictures, 90 words and, well, nothing to read. That might not be helping either. You actually have to write something, provide some value to a searcher looking for information or something to read. You can't just slap up a few pictures and a link or three and expect it generate ad revenue.
      
      Think about it. Say you were suffering from really bad headaches. So, you decide to go online and search for headaches that are like the ones you are having. Google serves up a bunch of articles that have four pictures of people gripping their temples and a link to an Advil order site. Is that really what you want? Or would you like something more? Maybe some discussions about types of headaches, seasonal allergies, why some pain relievers work for some types and others don't. Etc.
      
      Whatever it is that you would like to have found in searching for something that matters enough to look for INFORMATION... write that. It's harder, but it won't get shut down by HP.

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         THEHuG5posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I've been meaning to take some links off but none of the the hubs that got unpublished had more than 3 links on them. I've seen lots of links on other hubbers hubs and my hubs with lots of backlinks has never been a problem before.

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            Shadesbreathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Panda 3.3 and 3.4 changed things up. You have to provide real and meaningful value to the reader. They are making it harder and harder to just put some stuff up, do some SEO tricks, and make money. Frankly, it's a good thing for all of us.
            
            It sucks for those of us who want to spend 42 seconds writing "articles" and making Adsense revenue, but it's better for humanity in the end.  So, just write real content. Take some time, do some research. Write for your readers what you would like to read when you are searching for info. Not what you are willing to crank out in hopes of a quick buck.

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      sofsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with Shades, I was just looking them up and .........
      yes, too short.. adding more content would help.
      Unrelated links at the bottom may be another reason for the hubs not passing review..
      Some hub have more products than the fifty word mark I guess, you are lucky that they haven't been moderated as yet... Now this again is a sample review and a quick one at that , I haven't looked at all your hubs.

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         THEHuG5posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I can only think of 1 or 2 out of all of my hubs that only have like 50 words and that's only because they have a video to go along with them. I emailed the hp team to try to find out what is specifically wrong so I hope this gets sorted out soon.

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            sofsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I am not talking about hub that have fifty words, I am talking about amazon products ads.. you can use one product for a minimum of fifty words and the hub that  I checked had loads of them..
            That is another hub waiting for moderation.. sorry I don't remember the name..
            As I already mentioned we can only check hubs that are there as samples... hope you have this sorted out.

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      michifusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This has happened to me recently. I have a hub that has been taken down for having one affiliate link in it. I removed the link and tried to republish. It was then looked at by a moderator and was deemed to be overly commercial with deceptive tags. I changed it, re-categorised it and spent 2 hours updating it and going through it with a fine tooth comb. It was then deemed to be substandard, still deceptive tags. I have removed the tags, images and just left the text. Still rejected. This time for being incomplete or poorly structured. It would appear that Hubpages hates it.
      
      Why now? the hub has been up and earning for over 18 months?
      
      I don't know, but I have now deleted it and will publish elsewhere. It was high in google, so this is a shame.
      
      Funny, as today I will hit my 500,000 views on Hubpages. This should be a time for celebration, but this has destroyed my confidence, and I no longer want to write for this website. So begins the big delete.
      
      I am so unhappy that after putting in hours and hours over the past 2 years, towing the line, helping out in the community, hub hopping, and doing 3 full hub edits (over 100 hubs) due to falls in traffic and changes in hub regulations, that I have decided to do no more. It is simply not worth the time. I lose a big percentage to hubpages, and have to do more work on here than I have to do on sites that earn 20 times the amount.
      
      I have seen a lot of utter rubbish that Hubpages accepts on here, yet my hubs which are good, it decides are not good enough anymore.
      
      BTW - this was a 1800 word hub
      No links
      4 amazon capsules (5 products)
      
      Oh well. If they are not happy with me there is an easy solution. Dont write on here. Simple.
      
      Such a shame, as I have really enjoyed my time on this site, but all good things come to an end. I just hope that all the good writers on here do not end up feeling the same and leaving Hubpages.

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         THEHuG5posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for the reply I know how you feel I have worked hard and been very involved in the HP community but this is a blow to my confidence. I'm scared to even try to publish anything else until this is resolved. Have you contacted admin? I'm going to at least see what they say. I really really don't want to leave HP. My views and earnings have been going up and I can see a bright future here if I just stick with it. I hope you reconsider leaving.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I feel your frustration.  It's not the first time a Hubber has struggled to work out what exactly the problem is. I assume you emailed team@HubPages for a detailed explanation after the second attempt?
         
         
         
         If you've got somewhere you can earn 20 times the amount, I'm surprised you're still here at all!   I rarely add new Hubs here but I find I can still enjoy the community anyway.  Maybe you should do the same.

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            michifusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I love the site and I don't publish for money here. trust me, 20 times the amount is not as much as it sounds, given the drop in income on here in recent months!
            
            Im not leaving and deleting my account in a fit of rage. Ill still be on here, as like you, I enjoy the community. Just felt like a kick in the teeth.
            
            I have now emailed admin to see if I can find out what the problem is, as this will have implications for my whole account. I would rather try to rectify any future problems than to have someone unpublish my hubs. When that happens it is depressing.
            
            Thanks for the reply Marisa. It means a lot

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Just because your Hubs had no problems before, doesn't mean they were OK before. It just means that the moderators took a while to get around to looking at them.
      
      There are a couple of rules you need to know:
      
      1.  Unrelated links:  you must not link to any other Hub or website which is  not on the same topic - even if they're yours.  So if you're linking to other random Hubs at the end of your Hub, that will get you unpublished.  Just remove them.
      
      2.  Deceptive tags:  many people don't understand that the tag suggestions are just that - suggestions.  It's a robot that tries to guess what your Hub is about, and throws up possible tags.  You need to look through them carefully and ONLY choose the ones that describe your Hub.  If you add them all, you'll get hit for "deceptive tags".
      
      Yes, you'll see other Hubs that are breaking these rules - but it doesn't mean they're OK, it just means they haven't been caught yet.

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   michifusposted 13 years ago

   Maybe I will write to admin for the final sapping of all confidence before I make my decision. I suspect that the unpublished hub was for keyword stuffing, as that is now the only thing I can think of. However, it is difficult to write about a product without mentioning it. I dont want to do another full edit and have it rejected again.
   
   Anyway - the offending hub is now gone and published elsewhere - they clearly don't want it anyway. Shame really, as that hub has had 40,000 views.

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   Shadesbreathposted 13 years ago

   Everyone who wrote hubs for the purpose of making money first and, as a minimum requirement, providing content that at least passes as not being a terribly horrible source of information is going to get hosed. Google may be big and cumbersome, but they don't want to feed vapid garbage to searchers forever. They have for years, at least in large quantities, but they are trying to find real value for readers.
   
   "Writing" on HP is not about affiliate linking and finding ways to get traffic (Despite their having totally facilitated that for years... which may, as time goes on, prove to be a reputation that they can't escape). It's supposed to be about writing really cool, deeply informative, thoughtful articles with information that is highly relevant and well researched for people who are seeking to learn something.
   
   Starting any effort with the purpose of profit always fails, unless you are a banker, and then it just destroys nations, though it will provide a nice life for you and yours.

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      michifusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I appreciate what you are saying, and I agree. I thought that having one affiliate link was acceptable. I dont think it is now. Thats fine. Affiliate links removed. It was only on a handful of hubs anyway.
      
      I have not been writing for profit on hubpages for some time (it used to be perfectly acceptable to write on here to try to make a little bit of money). I write because I like it, and have enjoyed Hubpages. But if I dont enjoy it anymore, and I dont make any money on what I write, then i am better off just writing on my own sites I guess.
      
      I still love the site, which is why the past few days have been so depressing.

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         Shadesbreathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Making your own sites is actually the way it's going. Figure out a niche: "cats' with dandruff and skin problems" and make a website dedicated to just that. Fill it with articles. Etc. HP I think is going to struggle for a while trying to overcome the fact that they let just anyone write on here, and Google is going to lump them into the "bucket of crap" sites filled with promises of riches that spawned memberships of people writing crap, of which HP is full.
         
         However, HP did survive the Indian Aunties wave, and the Water for Gas crap, so, I hold out hope that they will be able to save it in the end. However, they, and the rest of us, are going to pay for the ... compromises.... they let slide. Frankly, I'm glad to see greed biting people in the ass. I usually doesn't, and it won't for any long period of time, because, somehow, it always wins in the end.. but at least for one tiny moment of time, "right" gets to score a layup before getting crushed again.

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