Intelligence

Jump to Last Post 1-2 of 2 discussions (10 posts)
  1. Swabez profile image74
    Swabezposted 5 years ago

    Was discussing this with a friend the other day and wanted to know other people's views on this. I was trying to say that intelligence should really be measured on the behavior of the person. The scenario is that student A works really hard and gets B grades and C grades. Student B works very little but is quicker at picking things up and so gets the same grades with much less effort. I think that the student working harder is actually the more intelligent one, this being because student A already works hard and so when going into employment it will be considered a good skill to have. If student B worked harder they would be getting top grades and putting themselves above others in terms of job prospects. The fact that student B wants to work little and be on par with others suggests less intelligence in the long term.

    Which student do you think is more intelligent?

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I think you are rationalizing to be more PC.  Much like giving every student in class an award during the award ceremony; they'll feel bad if they don't get something so make sure everyone is equal even if they're not.

      Intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with working hard; it has everything to do with the ability to learn.  If all we have to go on is school grades it is obviously easier for B to learn (at least in an academic setting) and is more intelligent.  The fact that B needs to work little and still be on par suggests more intelligence.

      1. Swabez profile image74
        Swabezposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah I think i  was rationalizing a bit. Thanks for your answer I hadn't really considered settings other than academic, but I realize it's quite hard to judge on a whole.

        However I don't agree with intelligence having nothing to do with working hard. I always thought  intelligence includes a persons ability to learn and so if you're working harder (academic setting again) then you should be learning more.

        1. wilderness profile image98
          wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Well, that was kind of the point.  I'm assuming from your post that A works hard, B works much less, but that both A and B earn the same grades (presumably learning the same thing; something that isn't actually true IMO).

          Given that, it takes more time and effort to learn the same thing; B must be more intelligent to learn as much without making much effort.

    2. sailingknight profile image59
      sailingknightposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Kind of along the lines of what Wilderness was saying, there are many different kinds of intelligence.  I believe we overlook some of the more common day-to-day intelligence.  This can be considered "common sense" or "street smarts".  A very good example is that a person who is academically intelligent may not have the knowledge of how to react in social settings.  This, in my opinion, means the individual does not have social intelligence.  In the Navy, we refer to these people as "Nukes", mainly because they typically work in the nuclear field.

      The level of work a person (a student, in this case) has to put in does not necessarily play a role in determining the level of intelligence, per se.  I think the fact that a student understands the need to put in more work does display a sign of a certain type of technology. 

      That is my two cents.  That is about $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee from the local gas station, but you must share my opinion to get it that cheap.

      1. Swabez profile image74
        Swabezposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks that is a good point actually, many people I know who work extremely hard at University are lacking in social skills. This is going a bit off topic but if you ever write a hub about navy life I would like to read it.

    3. bBerean profile image59
      bBereanposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I think it is important to keep wisdom in mind for a proper perspective.  If a student finds school easy and predictable, scanning the curriculum and extracting the relevant points they know will be on the test while actually reading and studying none of the material, they may still be capable of posting top grades.  They are intelligent, but have not wisely utilized their abilities.  Properly applied, their future could be outstanding but they have foolishly traded that prospect for an easy time in school.  Intelligence is great, but wisdom is more important.

  2. Swabez profile image74
    Swabezposted 5 years ago

    I don't really know what most internet abbreviations are but if IMO is 'In My Opinion' why do you not believe it to be true. I have a friend at Sheffield who did hardly any revision for maths, but got approximately the same percentage as me when I worked harder.

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Presume you're replying to me.

      I say that because I know people (I'm one of them) that are very good at taking tests.  I've known others that may know the subject matter very well, but simply cannot take a test and demonstrate that knowledge.

      So tests are not a real good way of measuring knowledge, which is how we're measuring intelligence here.

      1. Swabez profile image74
        Swabezposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah sorry I must have clicked on the wrong button or something. Yeah completely agree with you.

 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://hubpages.com/privacy-policy#gdpr

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)