New York State is proposing a free college tuition offer...

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   jackclee lmposted 8 years ago

   Do you think this is a good move?
   We have been down this road before...
   
   NYC, CUNY used to be free back in the 1960-1970s.
   The open enrollment program reduced the quality of the school and later lead to imposition of tuition...
   Now they are trying to effect the State Universities.
   What is your opinion?

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      wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I don't like it.  Students can go through college without crushing debt as it is (although it means work, not play).  What it will accomplish is encouraging thousands of kids to attend, kids that will either never finish or come out with a degree that nobody wants because they're already full of college grads.

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   Rock_njposted 8 years ago

   If I understand the proposal correctly, students will have to meet certain academic standards to get free tuition, so it will not be a free-for-all.

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   colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

   New York is losing more people than it is gaining new arrivals, people don't like high taxes, bureaucratic red tape that takes 10 to 20 years just to get through, regulations, and for any other number of reasons. 
   
   Check out Islamberg, NY when you get a chance.

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      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      As with any good intention government program, it will lead to the demise of the SUNY system. All they have to do is look to the CUNY system and how it has been devestated over the last 40 years...
      They are a shell of it's former status.
      
      The other part of this plan is that the numbers does not seem to add up. Some accountants have done a contortion to make this work on paper.

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      Quilligrapherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      According to the latest estimates, the population of New York State increased 1.9% between April 1, 2010, and July 1, 2016. The population declined by 50,000 (0.254%) during the most recent year.
      
      But as a matter of fact, I have been a resident and business owner in New York my entire life and never, not once, did I encounter "bureaucratic red tape that takes 10 to 20 years just to get through." This is just one more example of an unsupported statement from one source that turns out to be untrue.{1}
      
      I wonder why Colorfulone wants us to check out Islamberg, NY. Do you think it’s Islamophobia?
      
      {1} https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045216/36

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   psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

   I don't think the way to limit intake is to block poor kids, you can cap classes sizes by grade or other relevant factors.
   
   This is no innate good to charging students thousands of dollars is your don't need to.  I think this is a great move.
   
   And anyone who thinks there are any cheap 4-year degrees out there, well, hasn't tried to find one recently.

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