What are the Laws of Nature and do they have anything to do with

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   Lady Guinevereposted 13 years ago

   I was chatting with a firend of mine and he was telling me that there can be no such things as UFO and visitor's from other worlds because of the Laws of Nature  He also said the Einstien's Theory of Relativity would not allow for such things to happen.
   
   What are those Laws of Nature that he is talking about?
   I have looked them up and have come across many different versions and even different categories. What are they and how do they act on us today. How does UFOLOGY fit into all this?  If we create our own reality and the things that come into our lives, such as the other natural law--the Law of Attraction, then why would one man's theory be concrete to other times and places and people?

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   diplessposted 13 years ago

   Lady Guinevere, I think your friend slightly misunderstands some of the concepts. General Relativity does not rule out UFO's or visitors from other worlds.
   
   The problem is getting here our nearest star is Proxima Centauri which is 4.2 light years away and traveling at or near the speed of light would take a very long time.
   
   However einsteins equations do allow for a phenomon known as worm holes which would theoretically be transversable by matter, though there has yet to be any observational evidence of these they may exist so this could be a possible route of travel.
   
   However there is some truth in what your friend said, in that some of the flying moves and physical properties of the ships such as disapearing shap changing and others can break the laws of physics "as we know them today" however physics is one of the fastest moving fields in the world and the concept of making something invisable to the eye by bending light has already been achieved in the lab so... who knows.
   
   Just for my thoughts on the matter, I believe there MUST be life elsewhere in the universe however whether it is here or has visited Earth is a question which I would not dare answer because i honestly don't know.
   
   Hope this helps a little.
   
   

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      Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for that explaination.  Are you on Facebook?  He is on ther and I also posited this question on my wall and he sent me a link to wikipedia on it. 
      I also posited the question on How fast is the speed of thought?  Is it faster than the speed of light?  It is real but I don't think science has picked that apart yet.

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         Pearldiverposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         To Test Your Question (Which is a real beauty):........ Right now I think you asked a really smart question. It is 1:38am Tuesday 16th June 2009.  When will this thought reach you?

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            Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            That would depend on when I got on here to answer it!  LOL.  Telepathy is instant, is it not?  So being that it might be a form of communicatoin could it also be a form of travel?  As I can see (no pun intended) thoughts do become things, and how long does it take for mater to reveal in this manner?  There was a study done with thoughts and I have to find that!  I think it was in the movie/documentary "What The Bleep Do We Know".  I wonder if I or anyone can find that study on-line somewhere.  That blew muy mind with all this travel and time stuff!

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               tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               There is no doubt that light exists, right?

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   Pearldiverposted 13 years ago

   Lady G... The point is in the Time.... If you got the message on Monday then that's better than instant isn't it?  I'm in Tuesday's world...    NaNOO NaNOO 

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      Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      LOL  Mork from Ork!!

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   Lady Guinevereposted 13 years ago

   Something of interesdt to all of you to read :
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   diplessposted 13 years ago

   Hi, I am not going to say that I believe in telepaphy however I did read some interestig articles on the subject matter in relation to quantum entanglement, which as you know is somthing I love Which was specifically dealing with twins (specifically identical twins split from a single egg NOT 2 seperate eggs) and what it claimed was that the atoms which make up the cells could be seprated by distance yet still dependent upon each other and hence be connected by entanglement and hence have whats called a non-local connection.
   
   This would mean that the measurement of the state of that atom, say in a neuron in the brain would cause the wavefunction of the system (the pair of entangled particles) to collapse resulting in a state in the other atom and hence a reaction in the brain.
   
   In my humble opinion this is the only scientific way that faster then light communication could exist and even then i still doubt that it could communicate "useful information".
   
   NB// I don't know what I believe myself i am just sharing something I read.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There is so much out there that we just haven't a clue about.

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   diplessposted 13 years ago

   Exactly and it would be foolish too be closed minded about these possibilities.

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   Lady Guinevereposted 13 years ago

   So what are the Laws of Nature?

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      chukra Gposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      i dont know much, but for my understandings, it always serve you.

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         Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Explain this pease in more detail---always serves you?

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            chukra Gposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            first of all we have to understand each of us apart of nature and there is communication going on each time, when your mind is on a thing, you will be surrounded by the thing but it is just that we dont accept because we dont aware about it. doesnt it serves you here and please i know only little, im just sharing what i know dont judge that i am trying to be smart. we are here to give and take dont we,,

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               Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               You are talking about the Law Of Attraction.
               I am talking about the Universal Laws of Nature.  Like attracks like, but then you have those that aren't alike at all in any thoughts that attract to each otehr--because it is what you wanted to attract.
               
               What I am trying to get at is that the Properties of Energy and Electricity are the same properties that are said of GOD.
               
               They would be also the same for UFO's and ET's would they not?  If they can use electricity and the energy the same way, then we must be able to too.

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                  chukra Gposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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                     chukra Gposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     this sentence is wrongly wrote in yours ----OPS, how stupid i am ----sorry

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                        Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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                        Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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   diplessposted 13 years ago

   crikey there are so many i specialize in physcis and there are probably three main catagories (these are generalized):
   
   The laws of the very big  (special and general reletivity) This governes how very large objects interact due to gravity and the curveture of space time
   
   The laws of the very small (Quantum Machanics and quantum field theory) These govern how the world of things like atoms and smaller interact and their probabalistic nature.
   
   Classical mechanics - How every day objects interact billiard balls, bullets, cars, collisions and this is the only one which fits into 'our' sence of reality.
   
   Each of these branches has sections for how they apply to materials, surfaces, fluids, gases etc etc.
   
   With reagrds to other sciences Biology Chemistry  i am no expert so someone else can probably answer these more appropriately.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks very much for those.

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   diplessposted 13 years ago

   No problem

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/laws-of-nature/

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       Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Interesting read and thanks for the link.

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    diplessposted 13 years ago

    read this when i was at uni is a good article tho

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    Lady Guinevereposted 13 years ago

    Are these Laws just theory or are they concrete or can they change?

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    diplessposted 13 years ago

    all three of them are solidly proven experimentaly, however quantum theory has many interpretations of the same results.

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    Susana Sposted 13 years ago

    If you want a good overview of current physics with a good explanation of Einsteins theories then i would suggest watching these programmes based on the book "The Elegant Universe" by Dr Brian Greene. 
    
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/

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    cashmereposted 13 years ago

    The laws of nature are the scientific ones for most people, for me they are the spiritual ones. The whole universe is one thing. Just like the cells and organs in your body form you, we and our planet and all the other heavenly bodies are part of the universe.

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       Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       The physical laws of nature say the same thing - everything is the whole and within the whole everything is subject to the same laws. The atoms in my body work in the same way as atoms in distant galaxies and can affect each other across large distances instantly. I find understanding these scientific principles actually enhances my sense of spirituality.

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    Jewelsposted 13 years ago

    A digression to go in a sideways direction!  I often wonder about our survival on space stations.  We have evolved because we adapt to our environment, primarily we are animals as well as having more in common with bananas genetically than life forms from out there somewhere! (how do we know what other intelligent life forms survive on?)
    
    Just say we bypassed life on a space station and landed on another rock somewhere after going through a worm hole - how long could we survive because we've not adapted to that environment?

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    diplessposted 13 years ago

    I agree completely Susana, One of my area's of study is quantum entanglement, and this really opens my eyes to the interconnectedness of systems and this is where my "spirituality" comes from.

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       mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Quantum physics is god science. Read some stuff and watched some videos on it and it blew my mind as it is exactly what spirituality is about.

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          Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I couldn't agree more. I wonder if some day the split between science and spirituality will be healed?

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             mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             It was one initially and will become one with time.

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       Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I've also been really interested in entanglement as I've been looking into how we could explain phenomena such as ESP through modern physics. Quantum entanglement seems a good canditate. Also, the posibility of 11 dimensions also opens up whole worlds of understanding for us. It's exciting!

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    scheinandrasposted 13 years ago

    Quantum subjects are very interesting theories, But I think humanity is not mature enough yet to get to know the answers what they looking for. We will find a solution for every question once we choose the venus project:)

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       mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Whats the venus project?

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    Bard of Elyposted 13 years ago

    If the UFOs and beings in them are already in this solar system eg on the Moon and Mars, or on this planet in the inner Earth or under the ocean, or are in a dimension parallel to this one, then they do not need to travel that far anyway! It is possible that many are not travelling any further than humans can with our technology and abilities.

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       Lady Guinevereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Bard of Ely,  Thank You for stopping in and adding that.  Interesting isn't it and I believe what you are saying.  Anything is possible. When we put limits on things, we get limits.  That is how all the religions and some governmental things get passed us.  They put the limits on us and if we see something of the truth they tell us we are seeing things and make it look like we are the ones doing the lying.
       
       I also ask this question that goes with this subject about travel----------How fast is the speed of thought?  I got an ansswer but it didn't go very far.  Thoughts become things and ESP is telepathy which is the way that the UFO's and ET's communicate.  Children do this all the time--especially twins.  Some of those twins have a language all their own.  The language is not of this earth.  I think that was way back in the 70's that they did this research and found these things out. 
       
       I don't think people really know all there is that contributes to your thoughts and mine as well.

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    tksenseiposted 13 years ago

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    sandra rinckposted 13 years ago

    I would think one of two things or both maybe that either they know something about natures laws that we don't yet... btw I believe it is absolutely possible to travel light distances in a fraction of the time because obviously they do it, or they got some super fuel from wherever they are from that lets them do it.
    
    I dunno.  Though funny story since I have nothing better to do before the window guys come and disrupt my home...
    
    I had this dream the other day that aliens came down and they were like, we are aliens and I was like, sure you are I am not afraid of you.  Then one alien was like, I have a head ache, so I says I will cure you head ache with my super human ability to heal you just by staring into your eyes.
    
    Then I stared deep into the aliens eyes and it scared me and I was like, oh snap, you are an alien. LOL. 
    
    Really stupid dream but eh.

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    tksenseiposted 13 years ago

    Were you sleeping near the border?

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       sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       LOL yes why?

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    Lady Guinevereposted 13 years ago

    Dipless,  What are the basic proprties od Energy/Electricity?  List them here please.

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