If 17&18 century Asia back native Americans push European out, what would modern

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   peter565posted 7 years ago

   If 17&18 century Asia back native Americans push European out, what would modern America be like?
   
   Asia was still more powerful then Europe during 17th & 18th century. But apart from pushing Europeans out of Asia, Asians only pay Chinese pirates to patrol the coast of East Africa, stopping European slave ships and European navy protecting slave ships, in exchange city states alone Africa's East coast pay the Asians for their protection in goods. But the Asian did nothing for western Africa. Native Americans can push Europeans out, if Asia just send medics and weapons supply, train them using then modern weapon, supply them through America west coast even via trade making much wealth

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   Setank Setunkposted 7 years ago

   Asia was dominated by the West in the 17th and 18th centuries. Where are you getting your information?

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      peter565posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      An example is China Dutch war 1622-1624, Dutch is wipe out without fighting chance, most record are from Dutch, because Dutch army never lost so badly (literally massacred) and want learning from mistake

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      Setank Setunkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      10 Dutch Yachts and 1200 soldiers vs. 25,000 Chinese and several hundred Junks. Additionally,  "The China Trade" was already controlled by Portugal. The Dutch East India Co. was trying to coerce China to trade with them instead.

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      peter565posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Actually the Chinese pushed Portugal out, after a while, later Chinese navy force all non Chinese ships passing through there to pay access fee (including European ships. Also the Junks are small ships kinda like patrol boat, not major warships.

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      Setank Setunkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      ,,,,And the Portuguese and the Dutch were almost immediately replaced by the British. Also these were all private trading companies attempting to do business in China not sovereign representatives of their respective governments.

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      peter565posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Actually the Dutch West Indie company (later become British west Indie company) because its too expansive for government force to travel long range, they build navy for state own enterprise, but its same as state navy

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   tamarawilhiteposted 7 years ago

   China was the biggest nation at that time, and it was turned inward, so they wouldn't have bothered with the Native Americans at that time.
   By the start of the 1700s, Western diseases killed 90% to 95% of the Native American population, leaving it open to colonization by whites.
   If Europeans hadn't gone in mass, China or another Asian nation could have - but given the distances, likely wouldn't have.

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      peter565posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      [and it was turned inward] True, then Chinese government was been stupid, image how much money they could make, selling medicine to Native Americans in that time, where disease was spreading, then, sell them weapons and training to fight Europeans

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