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   gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

   
   The Schwandt family of Michigan have THIRTEEN sons already.  However, that WASN'T enough so the "parents" decided to have yet another- a FOURTEENTH child.  Well, they intend to keep trying until they get a .......GIRL!  Your thoughts on this?

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      lovetherainposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds like they're busy.

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      Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Don't know them. Rather presumptuous to believe one is in a position to approve or disapprove.

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         gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         It is psychotic to have THAT MANY children.  She has a void in her life which could be better fulfilled by having outside interests.  This woman has baby hunger which is considered mental illness.  1-2. maybe 3 children are SUFFICENT for a couple to raise EFFECTIVELY.  Anymore than that is abusive, especially to older children who usually have to raise them, never the parents.  If the woman was intelligent & had a career & other constructive outlets, she wouldn't have so many children.

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            lovetherainposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Not every woman wants a career. Some actually LOVE staying home to take care of children. It's NATURAL.

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               gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               It's not natural.  Women have been endlessly inculcated that it is her supposed "function" to stay home & take care of children which is an atavistic premise.  No intelligent woman wants to stay home & be saddled w/children- that is tantamount to slavery.

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                  lovetherainposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes it is natural.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            "This woman has baby hunger which is considered mental illness."
            Really?
            
            … well, the husband needs to do something about it then. He needs to get her help ... ten + babies ago.

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               gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               EXACTLY,  it is nice to see that we.....AGREE.

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            Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

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   gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

   Sounds like there are DEEP psychological issues here.  The mother needs an outside hobby.  She is clearly abnormal, even unintelligent.  No intelligent person has THAT MANY children.  There is something PSYCHOTIC about the parents, particularly the "mother."  Anyone who has such an anaconda sized family must be mentally ill bordering on the psychotic.  1-2, maybe 3 children are ENOUGH for any couple!  Any more than that is abusive, especially to the older children in the family who have to give up their childhoods to parent children they didn't have but the immature, selfish parents had.   If women had hobbies & jobs, they wouldn't have time to have large families.  They would have more constructive outlets.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   What if they all had their own rooms or at least everything they needed such as clothes, food and and a good education. The most important thing is being in touch with their inner selves. Being in touch with who they are and having interests and passions. Don't forget that Benjamin Franklin was a thirteenth child.
   I know a family whose last child is care taking her elderly mother. Without this girl there would have been no one to do it. The daughter loves her mother and is happy fulfilling this role. I also know a mother whose last child was a boy with downs syndrome.   This woman went blind during the last years of her life and her son, who never left home, was there to help her.
   
   They should probably stop for the sake of the mother's health. But really, whats one more if everything is going well for the family in general. If it wasn't, they wouldn't be welcoming another one!

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Kathryn, please use logic here.  In Benjamin Franklin's time, there was no advanced forms of birth control.  People had large families because there weren't any advanced methods of birth control.  Now that birth control is advanced, having large families borders on the moronic, if not idiocy.   Large families are outmoded in postmodern societies where there are advanced social networks.   It is beyond ridiculous to have more than 3 children today.  Intelligent people have small families while less intelligent or more backward people have large families, especially in the postmodern, 21st century.  Something have to be amiss w/anyone who has THAT MANY children.   Having large families were fine in rural, more primitive times but not in the 21st century-c'mon now!!!!!  People know better than to have children that one can't care for emotionally, mentally, physically, & psychologically! Where is the intelligence of this "woman'?!

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         " Franklin was a prodigious inventor. Among his many creations were the lightning rod, glass harmonica (a glass instrument, not to be confused with the metal harmonica), Franklin stove, bifocal glasses and the flexible urinary catheter. Franklin never patented his inventions; in his autobiography he wrote, "... as we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." ETC
         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
         
         Gm, you know I agree. But that's just you and me. If this woman agrees to it, who are we to chop her down? If its her will who are we to deny it? Even God allows it! are you higher than God?
         It would be bad, bad, bad if she were being forced against her will by her husband. Or if she is forcing her husband to accept it.

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            gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            There are psychotic women who have baby hunger i.e. they are elated when the child is a newborn; however, once that child is no longer a newborn, they lose interest in the child & have another one to recapture that new baby feeling.   Ms. Schwandt, Ms. Turpin, & Ms. Duggar all have that psychotic need to have that new baby feeling so they continually have children, leaving the other children in the family to their own devices.  There is something inherently evil in having children that one can't afford to raise emotionally, mentally, physically, psychologically, & socioeconomically.   God gives people brains to use.  Humans aren't just amoebas or lower life forms reproducing w/o thinking.  Humans have the intelligence to plan & limit their family size to children they can afford to raise emotionally, mentally, physically, psychologically, & socioeconomically.  It is beyond retarded to have FOURTEEN children!  Only non-thinking people have large/very large families.

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   Aime Fposted 5 years ago

   After that many boys in a row I’d have to think there’s something causing the father to contribute only (or mostly) Y chromosomes.
   
   I also think that having another child strictly because you’re hoping for one gender is an absolutely horrid reason to bring a human being into the world.
   
   They’re free to do whatever they want but perhaps they should speak to a geneticist... or they should try to work out some arrangement where mom gets to nail the mailman in hopes his sperm carries more X chromosomes than hubby’s.

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Aime, Totally concur w/the second statement.   It is TIME for mama to CLOSE IT UP, thirteen children are more than enough!  Close IT!  Close IT!   Take care of the children already here.  It is beyond ridiculous & into the retarded to have another child, hoping "THIS TIME" it will be a girl.  What if the fourteenth child is a ....BOY!   Kateri should have STOPPED twelve or thirteen children AGO!  STOP & CLOSE, STOP & CLOSE........

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   it would be interesting to bring a camera into the house to be a fly on the wall and see whats up, wouldn't it?

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Children living on top of each other, no privacy.   Older children PARENTING/RAISING younger siblings that the immature parents had.   Children have no individual attention, being left to raise themselves like feral animals, NEED I SAY MORE!

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   K S Laneposted 5 years ago

   It's illogical to have that many children in today's world. Kids are expensive, so I hope that the parents both have really well paying jobs, though with thirteen kids surely one of them has to be at home looking after them. Also, how awful is it that their reason for having more children is that they want a girl? What happens if the fourteenth is another boy? Will he be neglected and shunned because his parents are disappointed by his sex?

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      KS, parents of large families are a very different species from normal parents.  Parents of large families exhibit a level of immaturity that makes a 3 year old seem grown up.  Parents of large families don't value their children, they OBJECTIVIZE them.  To them, children are put on earth for their pleasure & amusement.
      
      Parents of large families can also be classified as psychotic.  It takes a psychotic person to have more children than they can possibly raise & exercise a reasonable span of control over.  Parents of large families have an infantile notion of having children, not considering the responsibility of raising, caring, & educating children in addition to their future well-being.   They are in love w/the idea of having children the way a child is having a doll collection.  Yes, the Schwandts are immature & psychotic but such behavior is prototypical of parents who have large families.  You are correct in your analysis of the situation.
      
      If the child is a boy, he will be loved until the psychotic couple again decides to have yet another child.  In the meanwhile, the other children are shunted aside & neglected.  This is so typical in the large family scenario.  It is mindless lunacy to the utmost degree.  Parents of large families aren't normal like other parents.  They have psychological issues which needs the help of a good psychiatrist to delve into the issue of their incessant breeding pathology.
      
      P.S.  The father has a good job; of course, the mother doesn't work.  If the mother worked, there would be FAR LESS children in the household.  The mother has no outlets & a void so she is fulfilling the void by continuing popping out kid after kid after kid.....

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