Einstein might be proven wrong!

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   andycoolposted 13 years ago

   Scientists of the world were left in shock when the world's largest physics lab announced they recorded subatomic particles travelling faster than the speed of light – a feat that Einstein said is impossible.
   
   Researchers at the CERN lab near Geneva claim they have recorded neutrinos, a type of tiny particle, travelling faster than the barrier of 186,282 miles (299,792 kilometres) per second, i.e., the speed of light.
   
   If their findings are proven to be accurate, they would overturn one of the pillars of the Standard Model of physics, which explains the way the universe and everything within it works.
   
   Here's the report: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-te … 1kuys.html

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      jomineposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Einstein became wrong, the moment he introduced "observer" in his theory. He went on explaining what the observer sees(like, the speed of light in "reference frame"), rather than what is going on there.....

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         Cleaveyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, the topic of the "observer" can be tied to the anthropic principle; so you really can't say his introduction of an "observer" is rubbish until you understand the anthropic principle in detail.

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            jomineposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Its just as good as saying god is necessary to understand the universe.
            I'll give one example, Relativity of simultaneity says two events may not be simultaneous in another reference frame. But they are simultaneous by definition, to say it is not, because the light reached the observer/or the observer saw it later, is idiotic!

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      Home Girlposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why not? I don't think there are limits to anything in Universe. We just don't know a lot of things yet that are too complicated to our understanding. Science is  s-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o interesting!

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         kirstenblogposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I agree!
         I find this sort of stuff just fascinating, and love to hear the scientists themselves so surprised by findings they want others to verify their results just in case. If it proves true that faster then light travel is possible that would open up so many possibilities for future applications in technology. Generally its the application of science in practical invention and engineering makes this stuff exciting, who knows what we might invent as we try to prove faster then light travel?

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      OutWestposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      A big IF

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   It's not so much that Einstein would be proven wrong, for the simple fact that Einstein's actual work was incomplete.

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      andycoolposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No Cags... it's really difficult for me to digest. Unbelievable!

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   Wentworth35posted 13 years ago

   Watching an interview with the astronomer Sir. Patrick Moore the other day, he is very doubtful of the results, and believes they will be shown to be in error.

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      andycoolposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Very much possible!

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   wildernessposted 13 years ago

   I saw that in my local paper.  Pretty early to draw conclusions, but I was encouraged that the report said that the experimenters were begging for others to try the experiment and see if they could duplicate it.

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      andycoolposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It came really as a shocker to me! Einstein wrong... just can't believe!

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         wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         It is the way of learning.  Fact A is accepted for many years, then a new set of circumstances or environment is found where Fact A does not apply.  We continue to learn this way.

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   Home Girlposted 13 years ago

   We believe in fact then we make a dogma out of it, and we realy should not.
   I read that microworld has its own rules.

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      andycoolposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Completely agree... but when you see your childhood role-model is going to be dethroned, it's hard to digest. Isn't it?
      
      We're only humans!

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      wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Very true - the quantum world does not follow the rules of the macro world we live in and experience. 
      
      It's a part of what makes it so very hard to get a grip on - the rules often run contrary to what our experience in the macro world tells us.

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         andycoolposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Dear wilderness, thanks for trying to understand my feeling... I always welcome new and new findings of science to replace the old ones.

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            wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It's fun and exciting.  It's just so d*** hard with quantum theory!  Maybe I'm just getting old.

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago

   Einstein was wrong?  Could Palin be next?

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   Cleaveyposted 13 years ago

   Oh  no, I might have to change my profile picture!

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Don't worry, you still make a great bagel. Quantum physicists can never take that from you.

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   A Troubled Manposted 13 years ago

   1987a was a supernova discovered in which the light reached Earth in that year, just 3 hours after the neutrinos. It is thought that due to the dense cloud of gas and dust, the photons bounced around before finally getting through while the neutrinos streamed through.
   
   If we factor in the results from the CERN experiment extrapolating the distances involved, photons from 1987a should have reached us 3.2 years after the neutrinos.

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   Nonsense Debunkerposted 13 years ago

   Realising that men beleived his ideas, Einstein himself was amazed! He concluded;
   
   "There are only 2 infinite things, the universe and HUMAN STUPIDITY and I am not sure of the former!"
   
   Surely, it takes infinite stupidity!!

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    Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

    Imagine what Al could have accomplished with today's super computers at his disposal.  Give him a break, will ya! 

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