Christians and Muslims complain that "Noah" is historically inaccurate
- Stevennix2001posted 10 years ago
0According to young turks news and various other sources, many christians and muslims are outright p***ed about the upcoming "Noah" film starring Russell Crowe because they claim it's historically inaccurate to the Biblical story of "Noah" as it's depicted in the Bible allegedly. I'm not going to comment on this for now because I want to reserve judgment until I see the movie, but I will say a few things.
First of all, it doesn't matter what historical events you're film is about. Whether it's about people like Abraham Lincoln, Malcolm X, or even someone from the bible like Noah, the reality is ALL MOVIES TAKE LIBERTIES WITH THE SOURCE MATERIAL. It's common sense people. It's common sense. A filmmaker's job isn't to make a film as historically accurate as humanly possible, nor is it the filmmaker's job to make every freaking film uber realistic. If we're going by that bulls*** logic, then technically over 99.9 all the films in cinematic history are crap then because most movies aren't realistic. I'm sorry, but that's just the damn truth.
Also, anyone who goes in to watch any movie based on actual historical figures like "W", "Iron Lady" and etc with the mindset of..."Der...everything in this movie must be true because they wouldn't make a movie that wasn't accurate....duh..." is a f***ing idiot. I'm sorry, but that's just the damn truth. Anyone who goes into watch any movie with the mindset that they can learn about history by just watching a movie is a moron. Period.
A filmmaker's job isn't meant to educate you on actual historical events, or in this case, biblical stories in the bible. Their job is to merely take that source material and make a damn good movie out of it. That's all. In no way shape or form, should a film ever take the place of anyone reading a book or something to learn about historical events.
If anyone wants to learn about the actual biblical story of noah, then they need to read the damn bible, and not take the film to heart because that's just common sense. Just like a person who watches Spielberg's Oscar nominated, "Lincoln." Sure, it was a great movie, but that film shouldn't take the place of anyone reading a damn book about Lincoln to learn about his life.
Look, unless that filmmaker is making a documentary, then their job isn't meant to educate you on historical or biblical events. Their job is to make a good movie. That's all. Anyone who thinks movies NEED to be as historically accurate as humanly possible needs to realize that all historical films aren't accurate. That's just reality, so why should we criticize "noah" for being inaccurate to the bible in certain areas? that's just stupid. I mean let the film come out first, and then judge it. Sheesh.
Anyways, I'm done with my rant, so what are you're thoughts on this?
By the way, here's the link to the video if you guys want to know more about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtjWigLWsd4Historically inaccurate is not the same as biblically inaccurate. Far as I recall it is a mortal sin and offense to god to change what the bible sez about anything so expect some serious smitings in the movie industry soon.
The overall story line doesn't bother me as much as the idiots who continuously want to shove their environmentalist agenda into the Bible and down our throats. It's about as hair brained as when a liberal tries to claim that Jesus was a socialist.
No body knows hardly anything about Jesus, just the BS found in some religious book of fairy tales written 30 years after his death written by someone that never met him! Noah being historically inaccurate? Historical?! What's historical about it? It's a cute story about a bunch of people getting massacred by a god with security issues. Of course the poorly educated religious people out there can't run fast enough to the theater to fork over their $10 to watch it, thinking it's a documentary! The producers of that movie saw them coming!
No one ever got poor milking the Christian minority.
As I was saying. People who have no idea what they are talking about, and some of them have enough money to make a movie. So they are free to stuff whatever crap they feel like into it.
What is wrong with that? The bible is full of crap from wealthy people.
Actually the bible is a valuable historical account of God's dealings with his children.
A "historical account" of imagined activities of a mythological creature from another universe?
Just how does that work?And if I recall - this is the bit where he murders most of them.
Sadly - it contradicts reality to the point where you would have to be a special sort of person to believe that. And of course - a special kind of person to worship such a psychopath. Is that why so many Christians are in prison? Because they adopt biblical morals and are incapable of determining right from wrong?Immoral Christians have a lot of catching up to do with organized athiesm in the last 100 years. The reality being, when athiests are in charge people tend to die on a much larger scale.
Hold on - God killed everyone on the entire planet except one family and that is not as bad as these? I think your grasp of maths is as good as your grasp of reality. Dear me.
"Organized Atheism" huh?Are you saying that something you don't believe exists, and an event you don't believe happened are immoral? Interesting.
No - sorry you don't understand - is that why you hate atheists so much? Fact is - you believe it and you think it is moral. That is What I believe.
Yes, and you don't believe it and think that a ferry tale is worse than actual atheists killing hundreds of millions of people. That is the result of atheists being put in charge of a country. No heaven, no hell, no consequences. Moral relativism at its finest. Enjoy your reality!
Please don't be so disingenuous. I thought your Super Daddy threw you in the fire for that? Guess you don't really believe there are consequences after all - just like claiming that you do. You must be a Christian. Like Hitler was.
Ah yes Hitler the "Christian". Not so much.
“…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61
“It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61
“In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6
“Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145
“As far as we are concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 394
“There is something very unhealthy about Christianity.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 418
“The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 75-76
“When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145
“Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps. My regret will have been that I couldn’t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar. We are entering into a conception of the world that will be a sunny era, an era of tolerance.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 343-344
“Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 146
“Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it’s the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322
“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7
“But Christianity is an invention of sick brains : one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A negro with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 144
“It took fourteen centuries for Christianity to reach the peak of savagery and stupidity.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 314
“Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7
“We must recognise, of course, that, amongst us, Christianity is coloured by Germanism.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 46
“We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. We shall continue to preach the doctrine of National Socialism, and the young will no longer be taught anything but the truth.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 62
“Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 51
“By nature the Duce is a freethinker, but he decided to choose the path of concessions. For my part, in his place I’d have taken the path of revolution. I’d have entered the Vatican and thrown everybody out—reserving the right to apologise later: “Excuse me, it was a mistake.” But the result would have been, they’d have been outside!” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145
“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that’s left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59
“But, even so, it’s impossible eternally to hold humanity in bondage with lies. After all, it was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity was imposed on our peoples by princes who had an alliance of interests with the shavelings. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of SS composed of men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesn’t prevent them from going to their deaths with serenity in their souls.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 143
“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers—already, you see, the world had fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing was Christianity!—then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies heroism and which opens the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 667 (Talk about Islamo-fascism!)
“The priests of antiquity were closer to nature, and they sought modestly for the meaning of things. Instead of that, Christianity promulgates its inconsistent dogmas and imposes them by force. Such a religion carries within it intolerance and persecution. It’s the bloodiest conceivable.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322-323
“One cannot succeed in conceiving how much cruelty, ignominy and falsehood the intrusion of Christianity has spelt for this world of ours. If the misdeeds of Christianity were less serious in Italy, that’s because the people of Rome, having seen them at work, always knew exactly the worth of the Popes before whom Christendom prostrated itself.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 288
“With what clairvoyance the authors of the eighteenth, and especially those of the past, century criticised Christianity and passed judgment on the evolution of the Churches!” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 88
“When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59
“The fact that the Japanese have retained their political philosophy, which is one of the essential reasons for their successes, is due to their having been saved in time from the views of Christianity.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 393
“This terrorism in religion is the product, to put it briefly, of a Jewish dogma, which Christianity has universalised and whose effect is to sow trouble and confusion in men’s minds.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 393
“It may be asked whether concluding a concordat with the churches wouldn’t facilitate our exercise of power…. I’m convinced that any pact with the Church can offer only a provisional benefit, for sooner or later the scientific spirit will disclose the harmful character of such a compromise. Thus the State will have based its existence on a foundation that one day will collapse.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pp. 58-59
“It is to these private customs that peoples owe their present characters. Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that’s why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline.” -Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 60
You see Christians have a rule book that they are supposed to follow, whereas Athiests or "spiritualists" like Hilter have no rules of morality, just survival of the fittest.Please stop lying at me. Christians burned witches for centuries.
No Christian follows the rule book. If they did prisons would not be full of Christians.
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
"We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health from within only on the principle: the common interest before self-interest."
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited."
Adolph HitlerSo here we have a two sided Hitler, one side is to appease the masses and get them to believe that he has moral intentions, and the other is the privately held convictions of a nonreligous mass murderer. Hence proving that the nonreligous know no bounds when it comes to deception, cruelty, and immorality. No rules, no heaven no hell. Moral relativism at its finest.
The ones pulling the triggers and pushing the gas chamber doors open were the real Christians I suppose. Too suckered by their religious delusions to understand it was wrong. Scary what you will say in the defense of genocide. Is that because your bible condones genocide - therefore it is morally right?
Well those sneeky athiests in the NAZI party liked to keep things low key, which is probably why they kept all those concentration camps out of sight, out of mind, in Poland. I hear they were excellent at spreading false propoganda too. Typical moral failings of a group without any need for a book of standards to live by.
Of course the athiest commies did the same thing out in the open on a much, much, much broader scale. Moral relativism at its finest!Ah - All those Christians were actually atheists in disguise.
Save me a seat by the fire.You think the NAZI's were trying to spread Christianity? Oh dear.
Oh dear indeed. So - those Christians were not real Christians huh? None of the Christians that caused the genocides before were real Christians and the god that killed everyone was not one either......
Are there any christians at all?Lots of them, tons of them all over the world. None of whom have the potential to commit mass genocide like an atheist with the philosophy of moral relativism under his or her belt.
So none of those Christians involved in various acts of genocide were actually Christians? Interesting - how do you know this? Seems like you are making that up. Doesn't your Super Daddy throw you in the fire for that? Interesting - it is almost like you don't actually believe there are consequences. Complete lack of morals. Is that because the bible teaches you that genocide is acceptable?
Save me a seat by the fire.Actually It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.
That may be a better way of looking at it, but I think it is because nobody actually believes there will be consequences. And if they do, they manage to "interpret," the bible to mean whatever they want it to mean. If it was true, there would not be this perpetual conflict.
Actually, Christianity promulgates its inconsistent dogmas and imposes them by force. Such a religion carries within it intolerance and persecution. It’s the bloodiest conceivable.
Not going to argue with that. It is tribal - that is - as a species - our main issue and Christianity promotes that way of thinking.
Well Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind.
Not sure but It took fourteen centuries for Christianity to reach the peak of savagery and stupidity.
Maybe it will take that long to come down? Although I think things move at a faster pace than they used to. It is so intertwined with power and money the statuses quo will need to be broken across the board. You won't separate The Church of England from the Monarchy that easily. Or the equivalents across Europe and the US.
That's too bad because Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.
I know.
It is one great big persecution complex creator culminating in the ultimate persecution. I see it as a self fulfilling prophecy - self created armageddon. Keep breeding until the earth can hold no more. I suspect the original writers could never see a future where there would be "enough," humans in their tribe. But, even so, it’s impossible eternally to hold humanity in bondage with lies. After all, it was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity was imposed on our peoples by princes who had an alliance of interests with the shavelings. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of SS composed of men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesn’t prevent them from going to their deaths with serenity in their souls.
Religion is, was and always will be tied to the power of the rulers. This was true even before this particular religion became the prominent version. It makes no difference whether you head into battle with the name "Woden," or "Jesus," on your lips. Believing nonsense with no evidence and thinking your tribe is the One True Tribe is the real problem. The only answer to that is education, which Christianity discourages.
Well, We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. We shall continue to preach the doctrine of National Socialism, and the young will no longer be taught anything but the truth.
Yes - the state almost always takes over the church to help it spread misinformation. The sheeple are easily led. Once you get them believing Noah was real, you can tell them just about anything. The two Christian denominations look on with indifference at the profanation and destruction of a noble and unique creature who was given to the world as a gift of God's grace. For the future of the world, however, it does not matter which of the two triumphs over the other, the Catholic or the Protestant.
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justiceNice to see that you agree so much with Hitler. See you later.
Yes - you too apparently. Or - oh wait - doesn't your Super Daddy throw you in the fire for doing that? As we agree - no one actually believes there will be consequences. Do they?
Save me a seat by the fire.I'll be alright. You on the other hand make sure you say hi to Adolph when you see him. It sounds like you two will get along great.
Of course you will - the rules don't apply to you.
They never seem to apply to Christians like Hitler and all his minions. Disgusting lack of morals - that is the problem.
Save me a seat by the fire,.Ah yes, I'm much worse than a guy who wholeheartedly agrees with Hitler. Make sure to say hi when you see him. Sounds like you two will be good buddies.
You really see him as a guy who wholeheartedly agrees with Hitler?!?!? I think that "what we have here is a failure to communicate."
I think you need to look back a couple paragraphs where he wholeheartedly agreed with every Hitler quote I posted.
Maybe tone down your passion/emotion for a second. Try talking to him sensibly and see what you come up with. Although, I do realize that may not be as much fun as this for either of you. Ah well. Carry on then.
*Edit: You posted a trillion anti-Christianity quotes from Hitler. He posted several pro-Christian quotes. You repeated ONE of yours, with which he agreed. You are speaking with an atheist, who openly rejects Christianity. Because he agreed with ONE anti-Christianity quote made by Hitler, you assume and accuse him of WHOLEHEARTEDLY agreeing with him. That doesn't seem extreme to you? And then tell him in not so many words that he'll be joining Hitler in hell. You don't see anything wrong with the direction in which this conversation is moving? And we wonder why people think we Christians are extremists.Actually I think he caught on after the 8th Hitler quote. You can't say he doesn't have something in common with the guy. It's such a blind hatred of Christianity that he agreed with Hitler until the point when it became blatantly obvious who was being quoted. Now that's moral relativism at its finest!
It's okay to hate Christians from every angle right up until the source is revealed. Simply replace the word "Jew" with "Christianity" and it becomes socially acceptable to spew out as much bigotry as possible.I can practically guarantee that he knew from the get who was being quoted. I just think it might be wise to step back and find out maybe what he REALLY thinks before you judge a few short posts and get disturbed. You might learn a lot and it could turn out to be worth it.
I can totally guarantee that while this particular poster may deeply dislike Christianity, he has no intention of exterminating Christians to deal with it.
Of course he wouldn't, he lives in a country rooted with Christian values, where that sort of thing would land him in prison. If he lived in say, NAZI Germany, the moral code would be based on nothing more than what is moral to those around him, specifically on what is moral to his leaders since he has no iron clad code to base morality on except the law of the land.
This is contradictory to the tennants of laws set in stone by a supreme creator. Hence athiest countrys always cause death on a higher scale than the whole of religous socitey in its entire history.Aww. Just too lazy to bother reading my responses huh? That is why you Christians are so ready to commit genocide.
Yes - the state almost always takes over the church to help it spread misinformation. The sheeple are easily led. Once you get them believing Noah was real, you can tell them just about anything. The two Christian denominations look on with indifference at the profanation and destruction of a noble and unique creature who was given to the world as a gift of God's grace. For the future of the world, however, it does not matter which of the two triumphs over the other, the Catholic or the Protestant.
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.Did you bother reading anything this time? In case you are wondering - that was Hitler explaining how he felt about his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
What a shame there were cameras at the time of Hitler. We have plenty of evidence of Christians and Hitler and his "positive Christianity," supporting each other.
Here is some further reading on Nazi Christianity. If you are interested in actual facts instead of character attacks. I suspect actual facts are of little interest.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php … d=10005206
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskonkordat
http://www.remnantofgod.org/NaziRCC.htmTotal baloney!
You haven't even read the links you supplied.
But that's your style.
NOTHING you say is wrong! You are, after all the Righteous Atheist!
Here is a link you might enjoy.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/article … er-quotes/Those photographs are fakes then? Interesting. Care to prove it? Or is it faith? That is the problem with having faith. Look at what those faithful Christians did at Hitler's bidding.
Well, at least I checked out all of your links.
I found them in favour of my POV.
You obviously didn't do the same.
TYPICAL!
No wonder your debating skills are weak.
As for the pictures, they are merely depicting a shrewd politician doing whatever it takes to gain power, and support. I guess he was also righteous (like you).So - all them Christians in Europe were lying about being Christians. The Church cozied up to Hitler very well. Please stop lying at me - those links do not support you whatsoever.
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so" -- Adolf Hitler
Odd how much you hate atheists - why is that?It does indeed support.
It's just that you NEVER acknowledge defeat. And that is BECAUSE you are righteous.
That means NOTHING!
That's where the lie IS. Being a Catholic, in NO WAY = Christian. But you have NEVER got that.
I, for one, have tried to explain it to you, as have dozens of others.
I don't hate Atheists. I hate Atheism. It's part of the bigger lie that is being unleashed on humanity.
Enjoy your ignorance.
Nice try Dj, but our self righteous atheist has been duped by false ideology. A path from whence there is no return.
Good is bad, bad is good, it's all relative to the situation or circumstances. Which is why atheists have been so historically dangerous, evil, and violent when attempting to destroy the religious freedoms of society.So - still not bothered to read any actual facts huh? Oh well, I figured actual facts and information would not be taken into account. No wonder Hitler managed to persuade a group of Christians to commit genocide.
After all - as you fist stated - genocide is acceptable in the eyes of god. He did commit the first one as I recall.
Save me a seat by the fire.Must make it okay for Hitler to do it. Or Stalin, or Mao, depends on the circumstances. No wonder moral relativism kills so many people. Say hi to Mao when you see him.
Ah - sorry - Hitler was a Christian.You would know this if you could be bothered wit actual facts.
I thought Hitler was into all that Madame Blavatsky theosophy stuff. Thelema and Thule and Atlantis and Vril nonsense.
Is that what the next atheist will say when he or she decides to kill millions of their own people? Perhaps they will say that since a God we don't believe in did it thousands of years ago why can't we?
But never mind the fact that it took several countries full of real Christians to defeat the fake one during World War Two.Ah - They were fake Christians now?
Your understanding of history and politics is as I would expect.As I said before, he might have pretended to be Christian in public, but he was agnostic in private, and extremely anti-Christian. Which is why he put all of those concentration camps far away in Poland.
But like most atheists you want to cherry pick through history to suit your agenda. Sort of like being Hitler's own propaganda minister.So they were all pretending?
What agenda is that exactly? Interesting how many of you are just pretending to be Christians. DJ says Catholics are not Christians. You say they were pretending.
He was a Christian. It was the Church he hated. Sorry for your loss.
