agree or not: there is no bad student, only bad teachers...
excerpt from "Karate Kid" movie... personally i can not agree on this 100%. there are so many reasons why a student can go wrong and half of it is beyond the teacher's control.. what do you think?
I'll have to agree with you, some people just do not want to learn and I have never understood people that just did not want to learn anything! I think though there are less bad teachers than bad students.
I have to agree that its BOTH. When I was in school, there were some teachers that did the bare minimal and didn't really want to connect with the students or just taught from the text book. But there were students that can care less if the teacher taught or not.
But I think its more of the Student's responsibility to learn what they can. If the teachers are not teaching, change class. It all comes back to taking control of your own decision and how you can better it.
To be a good student one has to be willing to learn. There are people in life who choose not to learn. There are also students who have little motivation to learn. And then there are students who are unable to learn in a typical learning environment. These are just three examples of what someone may label as a "bad student".
There are also teachers who have little motivation to teach. Teachers who are not qualified to teach what they are teaching. And there are teachers who are pompous and arrogant and fail to help a student understand complicated or new material.
All in all however, the greatest failure in education is the lack of support that excellent teachers get in order to do a proper job. I am now speaking primarily of public education. When a high school teacher has a computer graphics class and no computers, how can he teach? When a music teacher has no instruments, how can she teach? When an art teacher isn't given any books or supplies how can he teach? When there are 39 freshmen kids in an English class and only 30 chairs or desks, how can a teacher function? When a high school allows children into school who have no language skills and only went to the third grade in their previous country, how can they learn?
When a single dad is gone by 5:00am to his first of two jobs-- and it is the 9 year old's responsibility to get the 5 year old up and ready for the bus, where will dad be at homework time?
When a senior in high school gets up to go to school and her mom is hung over from the night before and can't drive her to school how successful will she be?
Karate Kid was a good movie...but real life is a lot more complicated than a well written script.
I'll have to agree with the other answers here...there can be bad teachers, but there can also be students who refuse to learn no matter how great the teacher is. This is why things like "no child left behind" doesn't actually work, because some are just determined to be left behind and such programs only hold back the ones that really want to learn along with the ones who are only there because they're required to be.
I think it all comes down to how the student has been brought up by the parents, however i understand this does not factor in all cases. How the student is taught to respect figures of authority is what i personally think it boils down to. If the student has had no discipline in their lives the student would naturally find it hard to do as their told or to listen for long periods of time without doing what they want to do. However this can also be put down to bad teaching in many cases where the teacher does not do enough to keep their students interested in what they are teaching . after all no one wants to sit for hours and hours just listening to someone talk AT them right. its best to get students involved and interacting in a certain subject to keep interest high. Yet i have seen many students despite all that just refuse to learn no matter what so ultimately the above statement is unconfirmable.
There are bad students and there are bad teachers, there are also excellent students and teachers, but the majority are in the middle, average ground. When a students fail, they fall into the the human habit of looking around for someone to blame - 'it wasn't my fault, it was the teachers for not teaching me properly.' A teacher can show, explain and help only so much, the work, the learning, has to come from the pupil as has the effort in the work and exams. Failure is, more often than not, the result of poor effort.
Having worked in various school systems on the financial end, I'd have to say that a bad teacher is far more damaging to education than bad students. Some students become bad as a result of a bad teacher...disengaging from education because of a poor experience. There are many teachers who do not try to become better teachers and learn NOTHING from 'professional development' seminars, because they are too busy chatting with each other or on their cell phones during the presentation...or shopping and sight-seeing if the 'development' session is in a nice locale, like Vegas or Tampa.
Over 100 years ago, kids went to school till the 6th grade and learned to read, write and perform mathematics with a skill that few of our high schoolers reach today...all in a ONE ROOM schoolhouse with ONE teacher!
So why is it impossible today for our young people to learn basic skills from 13 YEARS of education?
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