agree or not: there is no bad student, only bad teachers...

Jump to Last Post 1-8 of 8 discussions (8 posts)
  1. ricojake profile image37
    ricojakeposted 13 years ago

    agree or not: there is no bad student, only bad teachers...

    excerpt from "Karate Kid" movie... personally i can not agree on this 100%. there are so many reasons why a student can go wrong and half of it is beyond the teacher's control.. what do you think?

  2. jdomingo profile image59
    jdomingoposted 13 years ago

    I'll have to agree with you, some people just do not want to learn and I have never understood people that just did not want to learn anything!  I think though there are less bad teachers than bad students.

  3. CoCoV profile image60
    CoCoVposted 13 years ago

    I have to agree that its BOTH.  When I was in school, there were some teachers that did the bare minimal and didn't really want to connect with the students or just taught from the text book.  But there were students that can care less if the teacher taught or not.

    But I think its more of the Student's responsibility to learn what they can.  If the teachers are not teaching, change class.  It all comes back to taking control of your own decision and how you can better it. smile

  4. bayareagreatthing profile image58
    bayareagreatthingposted 13 years ago

    To be a good student one has to be willing to learn. There are people in life who choose not to learn. There are also students who have little motivation to learn. And then there are students who are unable to learn in a typical learning environment. These are just three examples of what someone may label as a "bad student".

    There are also teachers who have little motivation to teach. Teachers who are not qualified to teach what they are teaching. And there are teachers who are pompous and arrogant and fail to help a student understand complicated or new material.

    All in all however, the greatest failure in education is the lack of support that excellent teachers get in order to do a proper job. I am now speaking primarily of public education. When a high school teacher has a computer graphics class and no computers, how can he teach? When a music teacher has no instruments, how can she teach? When an art teacher isn't given any books or supplies how can he teach? When there are 39 freshmen kids in an English class and only 30 chairs or desks, how can a teacher function? When a high school allows children into school who have no language skills and only went to the third grade in their previous country, how can they learn?

    When a single dad is gone by 5:00am to his first of two jobs-- and it is the 9 year old's responsibility to get the 5 year old up and ready for the bus, where will dad be at homework time?

    When a senior in high school gets up to go to school and her mom is hung over from the night before and can't drive her to school how successful will she be?

    Karate Kid was a good movie...but real life is a lot more complicated than a well written script.

  5. wychic profile image81
    wychicposted 13 years ago

    I'll have to agree with the other answers here...there can be bad teachers, but there can also be students who refuse to learn no matter how great the teacher is. This is why things like "no child left behind" doesn't actually work, because some are just determined to be left behind and such programs only hold back the ones that really want to learn along with the ones who are only there because they're required to be.

  6. profile image0
    Rob_Harrisposted 13 years ago

    I think it all comes down to how the student has been brought up by the parents, however i understand this does not factor in all cases. How the student is taught to respect figures of authority is what i personally think it boils down to. If the student has had no discipline in their lives the student would naturally find it hard to do as their told or to listen for long periods of time without doing what they want to do. However this can also be put down to bad teaching in many cases where the teacher does not do enough to keep their students interested in what they are teaching . after all no one wants to sit for hours and hours just listening to someone talk AT them right. its best to get students involved and interacting in a certain subject to keep interest high. Yet i have seen many students despite all that just refuse to learn no matter what so ultimately the above statement is unconfirmable.

  7. MickS profile image61
    MickSposted 13 years ago

    There are bad students and there are bad teachers, there are also excellent students and teachers, but the majority are in the middle, average ground.  When a students fail, they fall into the the human habit of looking around for someone to blame - 'it wasn't my fault, it was the teachers for not teaching me properly.'  A teacher can show, explain and help only so much, the work, the learning, has to come from the pupil as has the effort in the work and exams.  Failure is, more often than not, the result of poor effort.

  8. Torch Harrison profile image72
    Torch Harrisonposted 13 years ago

    Having worked in various school systems on the financial end, I'd have to say that a bad teacher is far more damaging to education than bad students.  Some students become bad as a result of a bad teacher...disengaging from education because of a poor experience.  There are many teachers who do not try to become better teachers and learn NOTHING from 'professional development' seminars, because they are too busy chatting with each other or on their cell phones during the presentation...or shopping and sight-seeing if the 'development' session is in a nice locale, like Vegas or Tampa. 

    Over 100 years ago, kids went to school till the 6th grade and learned to read, write and perform mathematics with a skill that few of our high schoolers reach today...all in a ONE ROOM schoolhouse with ONE teacher!

    So why is it impossible today for our young people to learn basic skills from 13 YEARS of education?


This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at:

Show Details
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the or domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
ClickscoThis is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy)