Anybody else think Inglourious Basterds is Tarantino's Best?

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   theageofcakeposted 14 years ago

   I know this might sound like blasphemy considering Pulp Fiction's major effect on stylish indie filmmaking, but let's be sensible here:
   
   Basterds is undoubtedly his most ambitious undertaking as a director.  Its tense, funny, clever, and its cast, many of whom required at least a basic knowledge of 2-3 languages, was phenomenal.  Not to mention the effects, especially in the final Carrie-like theater sequence, were incredible. 
   
   Any thoughts?  If not Basterds, what do you think is the director's best?

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The movie from the commerical made the movie out to be one of those I consider stupid humor. It's so stupid you have to laugh.
      
      However, as I had made the decision that I didn't want to see it. And, haven't. So, I wouldn't be voting positively in this forum or on the topic. And, with that. Have a great day.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         <snipped - no personal attacks or attempts to hijack a thread>

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         sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You should know better than to trust a trailer!
         
         Is Basterds, his best, no way! not even close, is it worth seeing for yourself?..absolutely

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            theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Sunforged, which do you think is his best, out of curiosity?

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               sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               cmon, no contest, Pulp Fiction

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                  theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Haha... Alright, alright.  If you were a total Tarantino purist you might opt for Reservoir Dogs (which I think is admirably made but a bit over-hyped).  Just needed to be sure.

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                     Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     no way. one of my most favourite movies ever. I  had teh soundtrack on a tape and listened to it so much, it borke.  I can wait for Inglorius Basterds to come out. But I am sure Ill still love Reservoir Dogs the best.

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                        Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Same (although I don't think mine broke, just eventually got lost).
                        
                        Amazing soundtrack.

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                           Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           yup. mine actually got all wiggly and warped. Its hard to find around here. If I ever see it in a store Ill get it back!! BUT I have the movie.

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                              Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              Might actually go download it again now, not the same as the cassette for memories, but better than nothing.
                              
                              'Keep on truckin!'

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                                 Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 aww cassetts...sniff..I feel a little nostalgic. Remember when they discovered how to make tape players that could flip over? that was great. darn..Im getting off topic again...
                                 good luck downloading. 

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                                    Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    lol, yeah I think my 'ghetto blaster' could do that, AWESOME!
                                    
                                    How long did it use to take to create the perfect mix tape, hours, days, weeks, months.  None of this drag and drop nonsense, done in minutes, where's the love?

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                                       Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                       I cant do drag n drop...I still have to wait all tingly and excited next to the radio, my finger on the pause button, so the very second the dj stops talking, (I dont want dj voice on my mix tape)I can record my favourite song!! I used to make covers for them too. HAHAHA. I should try to find one and put it up here for my pic...

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                                          Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                          lol, you should, I did that too.  How cool were we?  Pretty damn cool.
                                          
                                          Glad to hear you're still keeping the techniques alive, I don't think I've even seen a cassette in like 10 years.  Wish I knew where all my old ones went.
                                          
                                          Go make covers.

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            Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you for your input. If I get the interest, I'll download it.

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               sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               ..the dvdrip should be out now

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         theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Commercials are misleading.  In fact, they are designed to be misleading.  Unless who've had prior experience with Tarantino's films and disliked them, I highly recommend giving this one a chance.  Its occasionally silly, but far from stupid.

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      MattMintzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      i'm not sure if i would insist that inglourious is better than pulp fiction but i think i might like it better.  i interned for a band apart productions while they were filming i.b. and got the pleasure of reading that script long before the movie was released.  great read.  great movie.  will always hold a special place in my heart

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   I haven't seen this but I sure liked his other movies!

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   L. Andrew Marrposted 14 years ago

   I can't stand Kill Bill I or II and they're the only other Tarantino films I've see...
   
   I suppose I.B. was alright...nothing special though (in my opinion).
   
   I won't be getting the DVD. Its historical inaccuracy irratated me a bit to be honest.

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      theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I respect that - his style might just not be your thing.  Kill Bill Vol II, in my book, actually ranks as one of his best, right behind I.B. and Pulp Fiction. 
      
      Basterd's inaccuracies never really bothered me.  I try not to expect truth in movies.

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   bojanglesk8posted 14 years ago

   Haven't seen it.

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   Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

   "Oh yes-yes-yes-yes!"

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   Mrvoodooposted 14 years ago

   Anybody else think Inglourious Basterds is Tarantino's Best?
   
   Not even nearly.
   
   Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, Dusk til Dawn...
   
   IB had Tarantino's usual visual flair, but the story and acting (except the Nazi Jew hunter guy who was excellent) were fairly lacking.

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      theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Visually, I think IB far exceeds all of the movies you've listed.  Had you contested its superficial beauty using Kill Bill I or II as examples, I would certainly concede.  But if there's one thing even dissenters of this movie should admit, its that it looks amazing (it was, after all, a period piece, one whose events were inaccurate but whose aesthetic was pretty much on the nose).
      
      Story lacking?  There was certainly more to it than Reservoir Dogs, which was entirely character driven.  I think IB was even a bit more involved than Pulp Fiction - which, while noteworthy for its narrative unconventionality, had a fairly simple progression of events (when you look at it linearly). 
      
      Tarantino's ensembles are always great, so I won't argue that this one is anything special as a whole (comparatively speaking).  But as you've said, Christoph Waltz is amazing.  His character was easily one of the most fascinating and difficult to play in all of Quentin's movies.  Not to mention the female lead was highly sympathetic, and - I thought - effectively played.

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         Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.  For me IB was like a jigsaw puzzle put together by an impatient kid, all the pieces were there, but they just didn't fit right.

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   heartattack4444posted 14 years ago

   Four Rooms = great.  I know technically Tarantino only did a quarter of it, but I just love it   Definitely check it out if you like his other movies--or Tim Roth!

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      sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely! ...I had forgotten about that segment, but Ive never seen Tim roth in a movie since w/o remembering him as the bellboy, snatching up his money and walking out of the room nonchalant.
      
      And Hail Eris!

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   jenblacksheepposted 14 years ago

   I thought visually IB was good, but I didnt really like it at all. Perhaps that's because all of my family are Jewish. I was told it was really funny and had nothing to do with the war, but I failed to see the funny side of it, again perhaps because my family are Jewish.
   
   Not seen a lot of tarantino films, but definitely prefer Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs.

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      theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I can't say with certainty, but I think if I were Jewish I might be even more enthralled by the alternate reality Tarantino creates with Inglourious Basterds.  It was the story of a Jew who, in one fair swoop, destroys the most powerful members of the Nazi Party - how satisfying is that?!  I would actually argue that the movie is made with great respect to the pain the Jewish community endured during WWII. 
      
      I'm gonna play devil's advocate here:
      
      Other than influence, what about Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs is technically superior to Inglourious Basterds?  I feel like if someone makes the claim that Inglourious Basterds is his best, they need to justify it.  But what about Pulp Fiction is so infinitely better?  Come on people, frame your arguments!  I'd like it if we could get a real conversation going about this.

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         Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Some things come from more than words, but from the heart.

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            theageofcakeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Bah, humbug.  I guess there's no refuting this (though I would love to). 
            
            Let me just say though, that many people don't give the movie the credit it deserves.  If we're going for the whole sentimental heart over mind thing, I think Tarantino himself will attest that he was more invested in this project than any other (it took 10 years to complete the script), so clearly it was a labor of love.  Pulp Fiction is one of the coolest movies I've ever seen, but not a single character has the emotional depth of Shosanna (the french Jew whose family was murdered and eventually enacts her revenge with the theater incident).  Why more people aren't completely amazed with IB is really mysterious to me - I'm legitimately just trying to understand the opposing viewpoints.

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   bloodnlatexposted 14 years ago

   I'm looking forward to seeing it.  I hope it's better than Death Proof though.

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      Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      that movie was awesome. c'mon..You didnt like it? I laughed my ASS off!!

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         bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It was good, but it was soo slow moving though.  It would've been a great movie if it were 45 minutes!  But who needs all of the hanging around at the bar and listening to those dish rag whores go on about nothing?

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            Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            yeah, it was long there, but I thought it worked out.
            my hubby enjoyed the dish rag whores quite a bit...I am guessing there were some other guys out there felt the same.

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               bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Don't get me wrong, I was digging on the whores too, but after a little bit either get them stripping during their lapdancing scenes, or just go on with it.  After a few minutes, I tend to get bored with just watching hot chics do the same dance over and over without doing something different.

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                  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Not me, couple of beers, decent tunes and I could watch that shit all day.

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                     Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     
                     stuck in the middle with you...

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                        bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Now I pay for that!

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                           Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           how much?
                           

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                              bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              How much you want baby?

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                                 Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 HAHAHAHAHAHAA!! You cant afford me...

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                                    bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    A guy can still dream though right?

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                                       Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                       its a free country. 

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                                          bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                          That it is....That it is!

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                                             Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                             take it easy...I got to go get some more wood and try to not let my fire go out. Its blazing, and the temp is still dropping in my house.
                                             Ill be back in a bit.
                                             Mr V if yoru still about, you have a great day too!! You have no idea how jelaous I am of you and your downloading abillities!!

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                                                bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                You got it!  Keep that baby roaring!

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                                                Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                You too, if I don't catch up with you before, Have a great Christmas, happy wood cutting.
                                                
                                                Take care.
                                                
                                                p.s. Downloading might be convenient, but it ain't as much fun as the old ways.

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                                                   Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                   you too. take care, have a great holiday. Here's to a new year!!!!

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                                                      Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                      I second that notion, may the new year bring nothing but good times and love, for one and all, amen.

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                        Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        I can picture it now.

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                  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  
                  I was going to say something about ..sorry to dissapoint you....but then I rememberd my pic is my cat couch...

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    1974posted 14 years ago

    Wow, a whole three pages of Tarantino movies and nobody has mentioned "True Romance"?  Granted his was just the writer and not writer/director, but that movie is awesome!  Brad Pitt and his honey bear bong, Gary Oldman as Drexl, early glimpses of Gandolfini and Samuel Jackson, and who can forget the infamous scene with Walken and Hopper? 
    
    If you have not seen this movie yet, you need to!

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       bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Good Call.  That is a great flick.  Eric Stoltz in Killing Zoe is another classic example.

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       Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       omg.....i didnt know that was terantino......awesome movie!!!!

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          bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          That's why it was soo cool!

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             MattMintzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             neither true romance nore killing zoe were directed by qt but true romance was written by him and is great.  not sure about zoe.  i think it was written by his writing partner at the time, roger avary.  directed by avary too.  avary also helped qt write pulp fiction so i wouldn't be surprised if q.t. had some input on zoe.

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