Explain "Santa Clause" to me

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  1. Stevennix2001 profile image88
    Stevennix2001posted 7 years ago

    Over the years, there's been a lot of movies based on Santa Clause, but the one I want you hubbers to defend is the one starring Tim Allen.  Granted, I know I'm in the minority on this, but I severely hated all the "Santa Clause" films with Tim Allen with a severe passion....well..actually just the first one...as I never bothered watching the sequels. 

    The main reason was that not only was the movie cliched ridden and lacked a lot of logic in it's flawed story, but I severely hated all the characters.  Most of the side characters are bland stereotypes, and the film recycles many of the cliches associated with the neglectful father figure concept.  However, that's not the worse part for me, as the thing that got to me most was the annoying spoiled brat son that Tim had in the film.  Yes, I did go there.  I do apologize if I'm coming off as a jerk, but this kid gives a new definition to the term annoying.

    First of all, I like kids, and I wouldn't mind having a few of my own someday.  However, when it comes to films in general, I often find kids that are portrayed to act way too smart for their ages, or don't act like normal kids, to be severely annoying in films.  Plus, I especially hate it when kids act like spoiled brats, like in Tim Allen's Santa Clause, yet they never get punished by their parents, and they get what they want in the end.  Oh joy.  I wish I could've acted like a spoiled kid when I was younger, and still get whatever the heck I wanted.  Life would've been so freaking sweet.  Whoohoo! 

    Granted, I'm kidding with my last statement, but you get the idea.  Look, as I said earlier, I like kids, but in the context of films, I just don't like it when kids don't act like normal kids, or they act severely rotten to the point that you just wish that somebody would put you out of your misery.  That's all I was getting at. 

    The point is, I hate Tim Allen's "Santa Clause" film with a passion, and probably never will like it.  However, I keep hearing people tell me that it's really a good family film, but to each their own.  Yet, I would like to know what you guys think of it though? Explain to me why you feel Tim Allen's "Santa Clause" was any good?

    I do apologize to everyone if I came off as a jerk during my short rant of this movie, as that's not my intention.  As I stated before, I LOVE KIDS, but I just didn't like the one in this particular film.  Does it make me a bad person?  No, I don't believe it does.  However, if I came off that way, I apologize. Having said all that, what did you think of it, and tell me why you felt it was good?  Explain Tim Allen's "Santa Clause" to me?

    1. seanorjohn profile image77
      seanorjohnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      But Steven , I think you are right, Tim Allen Santa Clause films suck. I don't believe this is a minority view. You are spot on.

      1. Stevennix2001 profile image88
        Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks seanorjohn.  I'm glad to know that I'm not alone on this, as I still can't figure out why this film was able to spawn two sequels to begin with.  Perhaps, I'm missing something here.

    2. CarltheCritic1291 profile image71
      CarltheCritic1291posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Another film I actually enjoy. It doesn't make you a bad person, it just means you have different tastes smile

      1. Stevennix2001 profile image88
        Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        That's true, as life would be very boring if we all liked the same things.  However, why would you say that you liked it though?

        1. CarltheCritic1291 profile image71
          CarltheCritic1291posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I don't know if I could put it into words, I found the idea that someone killing Santa Clause and therefore has to be Santa an original concept, and I actually liked Tim Allen in this film. Some of the jokes in my opinion were funny, and I liked the effort put into it. Even if some people don't like it, you knew that the people who made the film cared that the movie they were making, as some effort was put into it (unlike the more recent Tim Allen Christmas movies where everyone's like "It's Tim Allen and Christmas, that's all we need! No effort at all!") With the first Santa Clause, there was some effort, it wasn't perfect (Good God No) but it was fun (for me at least).

          1. CarltheCritic1291 profile image71
            CarltheCritic1291posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I also made a short horror film with a similar concept, except it was "Death" not Santa

            1. Stevennix2001 profile image88
              Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Really? That's very interesting. I didn't know that.  You should make a hub about it sometime on hubpages, like the production process of the short film you made.  When did you make this short film though if you don't mind me asking?

              1. CarltheCritic1291 profile image71
                CarltheCritic1291posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                lol Maybe smile This is way back in my Sophomore of High School.

                1. Stevennix2001 profile image88
                  Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  That's very interesting. Do you still have the short film on video or anything? How many short films have you made?

          2. Stevennix2001 profile image88
            Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            That's true.  I will give the film credit for that, as that was an original concept in itself.  However, it's the rest of the movie that I honestly didn't care for.  As for Tim Allen, I think he was probably the only thing that I thought was good in the movie, for me, but that's only my opinion. 

            That's cool.  Well, I can't say that I agree with you about the movie, but you do make a lot of valid points about it.  However, I guess we all have our own tastes in films, and the important thing is that you liked the film, and that's all that matters.

            Personally, I only opened up this thread because I was curious to see what people would say to defend it; much like the "Independence Day" thread you might remember.  Generally, I always like to hear various opinions on films, as I guess you can say that I have a highly inquisitive nature.


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