Why Bullet Proff Vests for Prisoners?

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   ahorsebackposted 9 years ago

   There is no wonder our entire justice system is so entirely  inverted , we give bullet proof vests to prisoners and "can't afford"    them for cops .      We've reached a point of demanding body cams for law enforcement , yet  more and  even less stringent plea bargains for  felons  and so many people  believe wholeheartedly  that our system is "just too harsh "  ?
   
   Who can deny that our justice , judicial  , penal ,, policing and  parole  systems  are totally inverted .
   
   
   For the grammar police -  Bullet Proof !

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      rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know if you are old enough to remember the JFK assassination but the assassin Lee Harvey Oswald was killed in transit by Jack Ruby. When Oswald was killed not wearing a vest, all information about the conspiracy and the act was halted. It has never been solved in many's mind. I agree that the police should have enough vests for all their personnel but getting the suspect to jail and back alive is not a humanitarian effort but one of importance to prosecuting and solving the case.

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   psycheskinnerposted 9 years ago

   I don't think letting people accused (not convicted) or crimes get killed is going to help the police.  We can support getting them their equipment without abandoning other people who need it too. (I personally have donated to my local police to get them vests).

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      rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I appreciate your opinion but it obviously counters the polices policy on transporting prisoners. It's their decision. Surely if they felt as you they would put those extra vests on the police.

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         psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         There is no monolithic "the police".  Decisions are made locally with state and local budgets for the most part.  If you want your local police to get vests, call your local representative or donate to the charity that provides them. Taking the three of four vests used for prisoner transport away would achieve almost nothing, especially as they are probably not "easy wear" beat cop vests but obsolete old models.

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            rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Again thank you for your opinion. It is a policy with "most" police departments when transporting an especially unsavory prisoner who could be harmed in retaliation.

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   ahorsebackposted 9 years ago

   Its like the justice system does more to protect the perpetrator than to protect the integrity of the system itself !   Systematic failure of justice = crime , trial , punishment - and then prevention  , is no where to be seen anymore .      All there is left is the immense cost of the game . Renew the death penalty now !

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      rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      This is part of the trial phase you speak of. Getting the prisoner to court intact is the reason why the suspect is protected with a vest. The rest of it is according to the Constitution. What more do you want? Blood for bloods sake with immediate results?

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         ahorsebackposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         What I want is  a real justice system that works !  Not a money machine  for judges and defense attorney's, and  one  that supports the constitutional rights of the perpetrator way  beyond that of  the victims .

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            rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            This is a capitalist system running our society. Money is the common denominator in all our acts and decisions whether they be political, economical, justifiable, moral or immoral.

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            psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            That doesn't really answer the question of whether you would be happier exposing accused people to risk of death before they are even tried or not?

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               ahorsebackposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Don't you believe it's rather hypocritical to put a vest  on say , Timothy McVeigh , who killed  babies and innocents  in Oklahoma ?   I do !   The wasting of  millions of dollars  in defense of  someone so  obviously  guilty ,  my problem is with  the incredible amount of waste within the system !   Guilt or punishment hardly matters anymore except to the victim of violent crime .

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