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   Timothy Andersonposted 8 years ago

   In 2010, Pres. Obama said his Obamacare would save families $2,500 per year.  Did YOU save money?
   
   In March 2010, President Obama said his Affordable Care Act, (Obamacare), would save the typical American family $2,500 annually in health insurance costs.
   
   Have your family's health insurance costs gone UP or DOWN since Obamacare kicked in several years ago?
   
   

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   ptosisposted 8 years ago

   
   
   ACA is corporate welfare that continued Bush 43's expansion of Medicare Part D by giving USA drug companies a sweetheart deal. The job of government is to protect the people.  We have  police, fire and well maintained roads for the protection of the people. Someone said that buying health care is like buying a TV- it isn't  - it is not a product that you will die from lack of. Healthcare is a need that the gov't is morally required to provide. Having a for-profit system of health insurance that rests on the backs of death, disease and pain is immoral and evil and should be eliminated.
   
   Perhaps the best introduction to the Kaiser HMO and Kaiser Permanente Medical Care Program is the summary by Edgar Kaiser that the less Kaiser does for patients the more money it makes.
   
   http://www.kaiserthrive.org/kaiser-permanente-history/
   
   Ehrlichman: “… the less care they give them, the more money they make.”
   
   President Nixon: “Fine.” [Unclear.]
   
   Ehrlichman: [Unclear] “… and the incentives run the right way.”
   
   President Nixon: “Not bad.”
   
   In 2005 the United States and the other member states of the World Health Organization signed the World Health Assembly resolution 58.33, [16] which stated that nations should "transition to universal coverage of their citizens... with a view to sharing risk among the population and avoiding catastrophic health-care expenditure and impoverishment of individuals as a result of seeking care." [107]
   
   Compared to the 34 nations of the OECD, the United States had the third highest rate of infant mortality (behind Turkey and Mexico),
   
   http://healthcare.procon.org/#Background
   
   Then again: There isn't a single government agency or division that runs efficiently; do we really want an organization that developed the U.S. Tax Code handling something as complex as health care?
   
   I think people look at the VA in horror - radical right-wingers say that  - 'they signed up for it, they knew the consequences and therefore they knew ahead of time what they are getting into'. All gung hung for war but not  for the aftermath of taking care of our disabled vets.
   
   A true shame.

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      Austinstarposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      So, did you save money with the ACA or not? And thanks for the review on the healthcare crisis.

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   lisavollrathposted 8 years ago

   Up, by about $30 per month---because that's what I pay for my insurance. As a self-employed woman over 50, my previous attempts at getting health insurance presented me with options that cost more per month than my mortgage payment. With the ACA, I can now use a tax deduction to pay most of my premium each month, leaving me with a small bill I can afford.
   
   Prior to the ACA, I went through cancer surgery with no insurance. It wiped out most of my retirement fund. If my cancer had recurred, or I needed chemo or radiation, I would have lost my house. Now that I have insurance through the ACA, I no longer have that fear hanging over my head.
   
   So, I'm paying $360 a year, but I can actually go see a doctor now, without wondering if I'm going to lose my house. I'd say that's money well spent, wouldn't you?

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   Annsaloposted 8 years ago

   No I have not saved money. In fact when I went to the Obamacare site, all of the low monthly payments we qualified for had outrageous deductibles.
   What is the point in having a low monthly payment if I have to pay 10K just to be able to use it!?!?
   Also our regular insurance that only had a $1500 deductible, became non existent this year. I am now stuck with a deductible that is 3K per person up to 6K, I can't use it even for well visits or prescriptions until the deductible is paid, and we are putting out $400 a month for a family plan.
   This was the cheapest plan we could find, and it happened to be the one that my husband's job offered. My state also refused to expand medicaid so we don't qualify for that either. We can't find any doctors within an hour that are accepting new patients. When I ask why they all blame Obamacare, though I admit I don't understand how.
   I am 100% in favor of health care reform, but this was not healthcare reform. This did little to nothing good. We need real reform which makes drug and medical costs cheaper, health insurance more affordable, and something to hold people accountable for their bills without forcing everyone to sign up for something.

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   tamarawilhiteposted 8 years ago

   No. Family coverage up 10% in premiums for a higher deductible, lower coverage.

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