Tobacco Lovers say Aye!

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   Nickny79posted 16 years ago

   I'm a huge fan of pipe tobacco--any fellow lovers?  or haters? 

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      kmackey32posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I like cigarette tobacco..

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      GusTheRedneckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I am currently at least a million years old and have hopes of getting to a million and one years... however... I, like so many others of my generation, used to smoke cigarettes, cigars, and pipe tobacco like crazy (since I was 12 years of age) - like it was going to come up short of supply if we didn't hurry up and smoke it all up first. Unfortunately back then those ciggies cost but 12 cents a pack, give or take a little. I'll be lucky if I make it another year because all of that tobacco smoke did bad stuff to my lungs.  I finally learned about how stupid I was back in 1964... like, that is getting close to 50 years ago.  But I was too late.  The damage had already been done.  So, possibly the next best thing to do back then was to flat quit smoking tobacco.  I did.  The next, next best thing I could do was to try to help other people learn some (at least) of what was so doggone bad about smoking tobacco. However, this is no place to preach at tobacco smokers.  For the braver among them, I will only suggest that they take a look at some good information.  Simply go on Google, Bing, or any of the search engines and enter this article title: "Cancer risk in relation to radioactivity in tobacco" - it is from Radiologic Technology, 66(2): 217, 1996. You have to understand that, back in 1964, many of my friends and I really tried everything we could to quit smoking.  We knew it was not good for us even then.  We got fat on eating candy, and our jaws ached from chewing gum, but it took learning about the really bad stuff in tobacco smoke to make us stop.  If you must know it, even today, so many years later after quitting smoking, I find myself patting my shirt pocket for that missing pack of cigarettes whenever I have a nice cup of hot coffee.  You got it... I really loved to smoke tobacco.  I still have some of my old smoking pipes in a box as keepsakes. Someone once told me that I am like the preacher who admired the devil.  Maybe so, but you know what they say, "The devil is in the details." Check it out.

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   hubby7posted 16 years ago

   Hi Nick. My late father was a pipe smoker for much of his life. In fact, his friends used to call him "pipe". Unlike cigars, which I think have a repulsive smell, pipe tobacco, on the other hand, can have a sweet smell. I recall my father taking me downtown in Chicago to go to a pipe tobacco store in order to buy--you guessed it--pipe tobacco! One thing more: I recall my mom once bought my father a water pipe (a bong). I myself am and have been a non-smoker for all of my life and will remain so. Sure, I could take a puff or two if I so desire, because a puff or two doesn't a smoker make. Smokers are people who habitually use the drug. This I would never do. And it is this that I am strongly opposed to. Score one for the anti-smokers!!!
   
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   Looking at your picture, Nick, you are young and remote from the consequences of tobacco and, thus, are, it seems, cavalier about them.  People who are older and closer to or caught up in the consequences of a lifetime of smoking, cannot afford to be so. As Bertrand Russell once observed: The further we are from the threat, the less fearful we are. The nearer we are to the problem, the more fearful we are.

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   Nickny79posted 16 years ago

   Liberal propaganda.

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   hubby7posted 16 years ago

   Liberal Propaganda? What do you mean by that? And please tell me what statements specifically that I made are propaganda. One last thing, as I am sure you know: Name-calling is a ploy, not an argument!          :l
   
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   Nicole Winterposted 16 years ago

   I wish I'd never started smoking.  I suppose pipe tobacco is probably healthier than my hand rolled cigarettes, (finally stopped smoking Marlboro reds and am purely on the hand rolled cigarettes full-time,) but I'd like to just be able to stop entirely.  I don't think anything hubby 7 said was propaganda in the least, he made a healthy decision to never start smoking & I admire him for that.  As I admire you, too, Nick for smoking pipe tabby rather than regular smokes with all their nasty additives and gunky crud.
   
   --- NAW

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      hubby7posted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the kind remark, Nicole. I'll say one more thing: Most of my hubs are about empowerment. It's about you taking control of your life. Smoking, I consider a disempowering activity. Smokers lose control not only of their health, but also of their pocketbook. In the beginning, they act from a position of empowerment in choosing to smoke. Later, the smoking--their addiction--takes control of them, so to speak, in  telling them to "buy me!" Not only are smokers forced to buy smokes when they really don't want to, but, in addition, to their forced spending on smokes nearly daily, they also are forced to pay the high price that government imposes on cigarettes. And NO, that is not all: They will have to pay an even higher price for insurance, possible lung cancer, heart disease, and other illnesses associated with a smoking. The choice is ours. We are all adults. We choose. I do not mean to step on any toes I am merely stating the facts, and only the facts. Smoking destroys not only your health, but also your pocketbook!
      
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   Nickny79posted 16 years ago

   Hubby, what you say is all well and good, but I invoke my Right to Privacy under the 14th Amendment with regard to smoking.  If it's OK for women to mutilate fetuses in their bodies by invoking the right to privacy, I sure as hell should be able to enjoy a cigar on occasion without interference.  Thus, it's really none of your business or the gov'ts.   As for insurance, AIDs victims who engaged in promiscuity ALSO raise the price of insurance for everyone, and yet we would never dare regulate people's right to have high risk consentual sex (e.g. homosexual sex, unprotected sex, anal sex, group sex, etc.).  And finally, ad hominem attacks are perfectly legitimate since by attacking the credibility of ones opponent, one by extension undermines the credibility of his opinions.  Lawyers as a matter of course make arguments not only to refute the logic or authority of someone's argument, but also their credibility in giving it.

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      Rochelle Frankposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      "Legal" doesn't necessarily mean "OK" in any of the cases you cite.

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         Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Huh...  Yeah.  That's a big chunk of 'stuff' there.  lol I wonder how presenting all that in such a manner would work out in real life...probably would have a tendency to drive someone insane, I'd imagine.

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      ryankettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You have an absolutely disgusting attitude. You start a thread on smoking, somebody is kind enough to reply to that thread with your opinion, and you accuse him of 'propoganda'. Now you are spouting on about your right to privacy. Your 'right to privacy' disappeared as soon as you pressed 'submit' and told the world that you are a smoker. Why you would then starting talking about abortion and aids is beyond me, if you ask me..... you have some serious issues. Take you pipe and smoke it.

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   Nickny79posted 16 years ago

   Is anyone aware of medicinal uses of tobacco?

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      tobacco loverposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Why, yes!  It keeps me from going insane.

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   AEvansposted 15 years ago

   My husband is dying from tobacco it has many chemicals placed in it, I am against it sorry. My recommendation is if you enjoy it quit or you could be in the same predicament. I wrote about it, http://hubpages.com/_dwn4bbs4rxf1/hub/C … ung-Cancer due yourself a favor and try to quit.

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      Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes.  A client (and a friend) of my bf's is also dying of lung cancer.  She smoked years ago, beat it once, but it is back...she probably only has a few months.
      
      I think perhaps in the future, they'll find some people are more genetically susceptible to this kind of cancer, while others are not (ie, my mother smoked for 20 years...quit a while ago...and has not had one health problem her entire life, and she is 61.)
      
      Yeah, we all reminisce about our father's/grandfather's good smelling pipe tobacco, but bfd.

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         AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I didn't mean to rain on this forum I am normally a very happy person, I guess I am heartbroken as I watch my husband fight for his life and he is fighting with all he has I hope he wins I really do, but I see it before my eyes. I will try to be cheerful from here on out.

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   Leta Sposted 15 years ago

   That's all right.  Check your hub. 

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      AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Checked it and thank you please talk to your little sister for me , tell her to try Nicorette, a patch anything, chew gum for goodness sakes but put that thing down!

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         Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

           Yeah, she already has a 'smoker's cough.'  Sigh...  I will & do.  Thanks to you, too.

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            AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I hope that she stops, the cough comes if she is lucky she will get emphysema and then she will be on occassion. If she is not lucky with that cough lung cancer will rear its ugly head. Both are bad I will pray for her and I hope she quits Lita. I support you with getting on her 110%.

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    kmackey32posted 15 years ago

    Well I would rather a family member die "happy" and do what they want to do, rather than me lecturing them about what could kill them. I had an aunt who was addicted to being healthy, she was always into sports until she got sick. She did NOT ever pick up a cigarette or ever drink, yet she died of cancer. After this happening, I believe do what you want in life that makes you happy, live your life to the fullest. I currently work in a nursing home and I see some patients who never smoked a day in there lives, yet they are on oxygen, I also see patients who smoke like a chimney and live without oxygen and end up dying of high blood sugar. Whatever makes you happy is what matters and I hate it when others say you need to stop that, its going to kill you because we all gotta go someday why not go "HAPPY"!!!!

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       Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       RAmen

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       AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Your comment is arrogant and it does not make me happy to watch my husband die! I am a ER nurse (R.N.) and of course you have a handful of valid points however I do not find any humor with it. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to express mine, a silly rebuttal is not necessary.

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       tobacco loverposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Happy indeed.  We are born and then we die.  Everything in the middle that we do is just to cut down on the boredom.

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    Ultimate Hubberposted 15 years ago

    I am yet to meet a bigger fan of cigarette smoking THAN ME in real life.
    Forgot to write 'than me' before.
    
    Although I have seen one on T.V. , Larry King. Who was smoking all the way to hospital in the ambulance when he had a heart stroke kind of thing. Heard he used to smoke more than 3 packs a day.

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       kmackey32posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       So I have seen people have strokes who never smoked a day in there lives!! I guess this subject just bothers me because it seems doctors are labeling everything as caused by smoking and I know patients who have died of the same thing who have never smoked a day in there lives yet die of the same thing.........

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          Ultimate Hubberposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          lol... Cigarette smoking is definitely dangerous and it has been proved. But despite knowing this I smoke a lot and I have been smoking a lot since I was 19. I am 24 now.

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             kmackey32posted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Yea and there are many things that are dangerous too like to many cheeseburgers from mcdonalds... If you worked with the elderly you would understand where I am comming from..

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                Ultimate Hubberposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I got your point. But I believe there is nothing worse than ignorance.
                So all I say is one must at least believe what I am doing is wrong and do whatever one likes. Know smoking is bad for health and smoke!
                Cheers!

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          AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Yes they can die of the same thing due to second hand smoke, working in places with chemicals, pollution etc. The chemicals in a cigarette are also quite toxic, you do know that they also place embalming fluid in them as well? If you work in the health industry and have any knowledge then you will realize that cigarette smoking is dangerous maybe you should try being a secretary and backing a CEO working in the health industry and not backing it makes me also wonder if you have any compassion for people's lives. I am shocked that you would find my comment to be a joke and would rebuttal with a grin which is shameful.

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             Derrikposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               The problem I have with your comment is that you are implying that you disapprove of my smoking.  But who are you to tell me what to do?  You are NOT affected in the least by anything I do, nor is anyone else, so what right do you have to "disapprove"?  If I smoke, it is MY decision, and mine alone.  I do not agree with abortion, but a woman who wants one is making a choice, and I have NO RIGHT.  IF there is a God, and IF abortion is wrong, it will be between her and God in the end, what business do I have dabbling in the matter?  It is the same with smoking.

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                AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Derrik,
                It wasn't your comment that I disagreed with and smoking is your decision maybe you should go up and read all of the comments that I wrote. My husband is dying and was a heavy smoker and you are here getting upset. I too was a smoker in my 20's and I am a non-smoker now so I am certainly not telling you what to do, it is your life and I believe I never commented on any of your responses, people like you who do not dabble are possibly the same ones who complain if something goes wrong in the World I simplply stated my opinion just like you are doing right now, no comment necessary you have also made your point.

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    kmackey32posted 15 years ago

    LOL I just had to write that before I went night night Misha, tomarro we gotta chat but its almost 3am here now and I am tired.

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    goodfriendiamposted 15 years ago

    I smoke, but personally would like to quit, its actually lately giving me an awful taste in my mouth. But I have been doing it for so long. I hope to one day just be able to walk away and be done with them. I have tried some many times, that I think I will wait until I no longer have the will to.
    
    Do you know whats funny I had a doctor one time chew by butt out and told me it is so easy as in turning on and off the light switch to quit if you really wanted to. And of course I said are you an ex smoker and he said no. And I said then how would you know what I am going through. And I said what if you where addicted to apples and you just couldn't quit your addiction to them, would you want someone to lecture you. Well of course he thought I lost my marbles because I was comparing, cigs to apples. He never did  get the point. oh well I guess.

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    ralwusposted 15 years ago

    I am a smoker, wish I weren't. I don't think anyone with lung cancer is going to be dying 'happy' and I don't think one can equate cheeseburgers with it. I like the smell of pipe tobacco and used to smoke one long ago. Enjoy the pipe while you can.

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    Derrikposted 15 years ago

    kmackey32-
    
         You just ROCK.  It is apparent to me that you do not approve of smoking but you feel it is each person's decision as to what to do with their lives.  There are exceptions to the rule as always, there are laws in place we must follow, some laws that are necessary, some that are not.  But aside from keeping all laws, we should be totally free to choose how we live our lives.  I smoke, and I am fine with it.  I do not want to quit, at least not now, I actually enjoy smoking.  So what?  So many people think they have the right to fight for ways to keep me from smoking, but they can go to hell!  I do not blow smoke in their face, in fact my smoking does not affect anyone else in the slightest.  So leave me alone all you tobacco haters- do not try to control me and I will not pester you about things I disapprove of that you are a part of.  It is called FREEDOM for a reason.  And kmackey32 you said it.

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    GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years ago

    i'm a cigarette lover but determined to get rid of this vice in the days ahead, and not a tobacco lover. sorry for veering away from the conversation hehehe...

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    Randy Godwinposted 15 years ago

    I grew tobacco for most of my life but not now.  I think smoking is a personal decision to a point.  After one is addicted it then becomes a necessity.  After decades of supporting the tobacco industry the govt has now made an about face and is trying to force smokers to quit by charging exorbitant prices for this product.  In case you wondered, the farmers only get about $2.00 per pound for the tobacco they produce.  With all of the additives included in a pack of cigarettes there is only a small amount of tobacco used.  This means vast profits for the tobacco industry and much taxes for the government.  The addicted smokers are caught in the middle and are being taken advantage of.
    
    Imagine if those suffering from obesity were charged outrageous amounts for food in the attempt to make them eat less.

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       ralwusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Well now there is talk of taxing certain foods to fight obesity. Next will be higher taxes on alcohol and gasoline to fight highway deaths. They taxed our drivers license here years ago to help with sexually abused children. Time for a real Tea Party don't cha think?

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          Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

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    zampanoposted 15 years ago

    well, cough, cough...
    if I hate anything, it is what makes me cough.
    I used to smoke virginia, cough, cough...
    But one day I noticed that I smoked four packets a day...
    cough, cough...
    So I changed to havana cigars.
    It's a lot more expensive, but less prejudiciable to health...
    so I prefer to think. cough, cough...
    Anyways... knowing I'm paying to all my fellow citizens that got cancer, comforts me when I buy my cigars; cough, cough.
    taxes are a lot more heavyer than tar...
    cough, cough.
    Soon, it'll be me... cough, cough. keep buying cigarettes, please, cough, cough...

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    shamelabboushposted 15 years ago

    Cigarettes sometimes can be the only friend around, though we can't deny the destructive consequences...

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    flread45posted 15 years ago

    I smoked cigs for 30 years and if I would not have quit I would be dead by now.Cough and hack all day and night.I hate the smell of cig smoke.
    Thank you for the laws that have banned it from restaurants and grocery stores,etc..

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    Leta Sposted 15 years ago

    lol!  Well, business is business.   I guess that's a moderate stance...
    
    Pipe smoking isn't that healthy, though, as I'm sure you know.  Ever see pictures of oral (mouth) cancer?  Probably one of the ugliest things I have ever seen.
    
    http://www.quitsmokingpainlesslynow.com … Cancer.jpg
    
    *edit:  So I'm saying...any pipe smokers out there should also think about quitting..

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Talking to ghosts? Uh-oh

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    Leta Sposted 15 years ago

    I think there have been a few hauntings, actually, Misha.  Always kinda funny...

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