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Submitting Articles To Magazines Requires Patience

Updated on September 30, 2013

Laying the Groundwork

How patient of a person are you? This is an important question, so think before you answer. Are you the type who expects instant results? If so then why in the world are you a writer? Seriously, what have you seen so far in this writing world that makes you think anything happens quickly? We build our platforms and we network and we put together a website and we, of course, write, and then we write some more and twiddle our fingers and give ourselves twenty lashes for being stupid enough to think we could make it as a writer and….and….and….

Nothing happens!

Welcome to the world of writing, where dreams are huge and reality has the taste of ten day old linguini with clam sauce.

Nothing happens and when it finally does, it happens in such small, miniscule, seemingly insignificant increments as to leave us questioning our sanity and looking for a good bottle of single malt.

Yes, welcome to the world of writing.

So having said all that, today I’m going to talk about one aspect of writing that requires even more patience than you have already exhibited….. magazine submissions.

If you are a writer then at one time or another you have dreamed of having your byline appear in Ladies Home Journal or National Geographic. Admit it, you have! There is no shame in admitting this fact. Maybe you have your sights set on Hotrodder or Field and Stream, or any of the other major periodicals, but most if not all of us have that dream….and good for us, because dreams feed the soul of a writer during those lonely hours of solitude when it’s just you, the computer and your dog, and even the dog is getting on your nerves.

You know I speak the truth!

I am not here to shatter those dreams, but I am here today to inject you with a couple milligrams of reality so you can plan accordingly.

Are you ready?

The proper attitude to adopt when sending query letters
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The Submission Process

I have written about this in some length so I will just briefly highlight the process for you.

You have an idea. You want to write about the wildlife in Topeka, Kansas, and you think Kansas Magazine (yes, there really is a Kansas Magazine) will be interested. You write your query letter, possibly the most important letter you will ever write, and then you sit back and wait for the immediate response from the editor of Kansas Magazine.

Or you send a query to the Topeka Capital-Journal newspaper pitching this wildlife angle and looking for a series of articles in their newspaper, and then you sit back and wait for the immediate response.

And a week goes by and nothing; and another week goes by and nothing; and your kids have birthdays and nothing; welcome to the world of magazine submissions.

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The Bitter Pill of Reality

The first thing you must realize is that magazine editors literally receive thousands of query letters per month….thousands! Many of those letters are written by experienced writers with bylines to their credit and many who have a working relationship with that particular editor.

You, on the other hand, have a dream and little else.

Logic dictates that just sifting through all the query letters will take an editor a fair amount of time. I have found one month to be a reasonable amount of time to wait before I hear back about a query. Any response quicker than that is like a cherry on an ice cream soda.

Be patient!

If you do not hear back within a month then one of two things has happened: one, they did not like your idea and are too busy to respond; or two, they lost your query. At this point you probably should follow up with a second email asking if they received your query and are they interested.

Now hooray, your idea has been accepted and you come to agreement with the editor about your article. You write it up, it’s pure genius and you submit it to them. At this point it will either be accepted as the first draft or you will be asked to make revisions. Let’s say revisions are needed; you make them and send it in again and it is accepted and…..it is scheduled for the August edition of the magazine….six months from now.

Be patient!

Now we get to the matter of payment. Some magazines pay upon receipt of the final draft. Some pay after the publishing date. Even if a reasonable payment date is set, some magazines are slow in paying.

Be patient!

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More Reality and a Reasonable Game Plan

If you are just starting out in the magazine world, you need to be aware of this and work accordingly. I have said often that submitting to magazines is a numbers game. The more mags you submit to the better your chances of being published, and if you are a relative unknown to editors then you are going to have to submit, submit and submit again before you finally get your break. The percentages of success are very low for those just starting out in this game so embrace that fact and work with it.

Because you will need to submit to many magazines, you need to have a system of keeping track of your submissions. I make a simple online chart that tells me the date that I submit, who I submitted to, the title of the article, when I received a response, if I have received payment, etc. I then check that chart weekly to keep track of the submissions and decide when it is necessary for me to make a follow-up contact with that editor.

If I receive a rejection then that is a good thing because at least I received a response of some kind. I put those rejections in a separate folder on my computer for future reference. I also have a separate folder for rejections that state they like my writing but this is just the wrong time for my idea. Those are great rejection letters because they have stated that they like my writing. That is pure gold for someone who wants to break into this business. Trust me when I tell you that editors rarely send those types of letters, so if you receive one then celebrate. You now have a contact who you can submit to again.

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So Is the Picture Clear to You?

In my opinion, and granted this is just my opinion, if you decide you want to channel your efforts into being a magazine writer, you should be sending out query letters daily. A reasonable number, depending on your time availability, might be three query letters each day, or fifteen per week. Yes that may sound like a lot, and it is, but all it takes is one editor who is impressed with your work to start the ball rolling. Once you get one article published then more will follow.

How long does this process take? Realistically? It could take a year or more for you to break through the logjam of other writers, to establish a bond with editors and to finally receive a steady stream of work. Does a year sound like a long time to you? Only you can answer that question, but I can tell you with certainty that there are no overnight successes in writing. Everyone pays their dues in this field of work, so plan on putting in the time.

One final note and I’ll close for today. Start small and work up to the Bigs. Find small, local publications and pitch to them; the important thing is to get published and build your platform. Once you actually have a platform with some bylines, then you can start pitching to the big name magazines.

That’s all, folks! Get busy working on those query letters and then remember….above all…..

Be patient!

2013 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”

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      Janine Huldie 3 years ago from New York, New York

      I worked for the editorial department of an electronics magazine company back when I was younger and you are so right that they get thousands of inquiries a day. It was part of my job to help accept or reject articles for these magazines. Back then, it was snail mail, but now the internet has changed so much of this processI am sure. But your advice is great and spot on. So thanks Bill and wishing you a great Monday now!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you for confirming that, Janine, and for always being here. Have a great week ahead my friend.

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      Michael-Milec 3 years ago

      Good morning Bill,

      Excellent as always. All I could do is to vote " None; I haven't tried. "

      Voting awesome and useful .

      Have a prosperous week.

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      Shauna L Bowling 3 years ago from Central Florida

      Bill, how do you go about finding the smaller publications? Can you point me in the right direction?

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      DJ Anderson 3 years ago

      Another great article, Bill.

      You are just determined to make decent writers out of us, yet!

      I love your convection.

      Yes, I am being a tad facetious. It's Monday morning--what can I say?

      Just a little middle school deja vu.

      DJ.

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      Eric Dierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      For some reason that long wait and knowing it ahead of time relieves the pressure. That is in thinking about it. Most things that take a while to cook taste better.

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      Robert Burroughs 3 years ago

      Bill, another great article.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ahhh, good morning MIchael...thank you my friend for stopping by on this Monday. I hope you have a blessed week my friend.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Sha, all I know to do is go online....for Washington I just google "Washington magazines" and a list pops up. :) Hope that helps.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      DJ, I happen to love facetious...keep them coming.

      Have a great week my friend and thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Slow cooking, Eric, keeps the juices in and the taste delicious. :) Thanks buddy.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you rtburroughs....have a great Monday my friend.

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      Mel Carriere 3 years ago from San Diego California

      As usual some very useful and encouraging info. A year does not sound like a long time to wait, although the time period of course varies by the persistence of the writer. Do the tips you give here also apply to fiction submissions?

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Mel, fiction is a tough gig and a world of its own. The number of magazines that accept fiction is much smaller but yes, the waiting period should be the same. :) Thank you my friend and have a great week.

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      Shauna L Bowling 3 years ago from Central Florida

      Thanx, Bill.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You betcha!

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      Randi Benlulu 3 years ago from Mesa, AZ

      Hmm...haven't really thought about magazines, but now I'm thinking! Thank you for all the great info!

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      Jo Alexis-Hagues 3 years ago from Bedfordshire, U.K

      Bill, another gem to add to my Billy file. :) It's a great feeling to see your work in print, it can also prove to be a good motivator also.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      My pleasure, Randi, and thank you! You are a fine writer...I think you might find some success along this avenue.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Jo and yes, most definitely....it can also be a valuable stepping stone to bigger things. :)

      blessings to you always my friend.

      bill

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      Robert Burroughs 3 years ago

      On my second viewing I watched the video, it was very insightful. I am going to follow your advise, I am also going to work on getting my articles to a higher quality standard so that they have a better chance.

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      Randi Benlulu 3 years ago from Mesa, AZ

      Thank you, Bill!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You are very welcome, Randi!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Sounds like a plan, rtburroughs. There is money to be made out there; it is not easy breaking in but once you do, and editors know who you are and trust in your work, then it becomes much easier. :)

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      CraftytotheCore 3 years ago

      Very valuable information. Before writing on HP, I kept a personal blog on blogger. I wrote up an interview with businessman. Low and behold, he gets business from my blog. Just last week a newspaper was looking for my blog because the company owner is being featured in one of their editions! I never dreamed my blog would lead to anything, but it has helped that man's business. I doubt it will lead to anywhere for me, but hey, it's cool so say the least.

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      Elizabeth Parker 3 years ago from Las Vegas, NV

      Excellent advice. I can't really say that I've tried yet. I only submitted once and that is hardly trying. But ironically I bought the book the Writer's Market over the weekend! So glad to see it listed here. I had the 2010 version, but over the past three years, I kind of let it sit on the shelves. Now with the new 2014 version, I plan to get busy reading. Ah, more reading! :) Thanks for posting another useful hub!

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      Ann Carr 3 years ago from SW England

      Superb pointers for people to follow. I've been lucky enough to have two out of three articles published by our local 'Somerset' magazine. I would add that it's fairly essential to add photos if you're talking about a geographical area. Research, too, not only into the subject but also into the magazine is a must. It's such a great feeling to see your work in print, to know that someone values it enough to print it. Even the money was second to the recognition, in my mind.

      Another useful hub for every writer, bill. I think all these should be put into a portfolio by all of us who read them - I tuck a few away on my laptop as useful reminders to prod me into production! Great stuff as usual. More power to your elbow, as we say! Ann

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Brandi, who knows where that might lead for you. We build our platform and every little bit of exposure helps to establish us as serious writers. I think that's great and thanks for sharing that experience with me.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      God, Liz, I've been singing the praises of the Writer's Market for over a year now. I've used that for three years and I would be lost without it. So glad to hear you bought the updated one. Your articles are perfect for magazines, Liz, and I'm not just saying that. :) Stick your big toe in the water and find out the temperature.

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      William Kovacic 3 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

      Hi Bill,

      Never really thought much about it before, but you've given me some things to think about - another challenge. Thanks.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ann, I have never heard that but I love it...more power to your elbow. LOL That's great!

      Thank you of course. Yes, I have written about quality photos and research before; today I wanted to answer some questions I have received about the time frame one can expect when submitting. Thank you for adding those points in your comment and congratulations for being published...you are right....the money is second. :)

      Thank you Ann!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Lifegate, you are very welcome. Thank you Sir!

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      Marlene Bertrand 3 years ago from Northern California, USA

      Great information. Patience is something I have a lot of these days. It hasn't always been that way, but since I announced that I wanted to be a writer, patience seems to be a by-product of the conviction. And, I like what the guy in the video says about being an expert in one particular field. It makes sense to be considered the "go to" person in the editor's mind.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      It does indeed, Marlene. All it takes is establishing a rapport with one editor, but without patience that will not happen. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope your week is a great one.

      bill

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      Jackie Lynnley 3 years ago from The Beautiful South

      Is it kind of like hurry up and wait...hurry up and wait? J/K. My middle name is patience. Always a ball of fire bill! ^

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      livingsta 3 years ago from United Kingdom

      Great advice Bill. Thank you for sharing this with us.

      Hope you had a good weekend and a good start to the week.

      Sending you smiles and blessings :-)

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      Melissa Propp 3 years ago from Minnesota

      Wow, it really is a long process...thank you for breaking it down so well. As always, this is very helpful advice and it is very much appreciated!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Jackie, that is exactly what it is, and patience is a valuable asset if you should decide to take this route. Thank you as always my ball of fire friend. :)

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Dahlia, I did have a nice weekend albeit a wet one. Fall has definitely arrived here.

      Thank you as always and hugs and blessings are headed your way.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hey Melissa...thank you! It is a long process, but once you get the hang of it it becomes a continual process that has a life of its own. :)

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      Mary Craig 3 years ago from New York

      I'm not sure what's best about your hubs Bill, the hub itself or the wonderful tips you give in the comments...even the facetious ones ;)

      Every writer has a dream and I'm sure some dream of writing magazine articles but, it is not always easy to find out how to really start that journey...well, here's our Bill giving us that information! Great way to start the week.

      Voted up, useful, awesome, interesting, pinned, and shared.

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      mylindaelliott 3 years ago from Louisiana

      I clicked none on the poll because I have only had 2 articles published in magazines. I've been writing on and off for years... I just have to write though...

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Mary, many of these writing hubs are written for that very reason....I had no idea how to do any of this stuff when I started out, and I stumbled around trying to find answers....well here are the answers now for all of you. :) Thank you dear friend. I hope it is drier there than it is here.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      mylinda, I don't know any other way to get results. Good luck and thank you!

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      Mary Craig 3 years ago from New York

      We haven't had rain in weeks. Its unseasonably sunny and warm. They're talking about 80 tomorrow! Stay dry.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Oh my goodness....summer is definitely over and gone here. :)

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      Heidi Thorne 3 years ago from Chicago Area

      Dang! No overnight success? :) But overnight successes usually are the product of working over night, over night, over night... just like any other endeavor. Great advice as always.

      BTW, tillsontitan, it's same here in Chicago. Had a spot of rain Saturday night, but definitely drought-like and warm. But we'll be wishing for this in January though. ;)

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Heidi, you better enjoy that weather while you can. When we get tired of this on the coast we will send it your way. :) Don't try to thank us! LOL

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      Abby Campbell 3 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

      Hi Bill. It's my goal to submit to magazines, but time is limiting me right now. If I ever get there, I will let you know how it goes. For now, thank you for a very useful and interesting hub. Have a great evening, my friend! :-)

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      Crystal Tatum 3 years ago from Georgia

      Another excellent article, Bill, our writing guru. I love magazine writing, or rather, reading magazine writing, as I've never tried to get published in that particular area. Feature writing is what I love most. I'm pinning this one, largely so I can reference it later. Thanks for the sound advice, though I admit, being patient is a hard pill to swallow for me. I am one of those instant gratification type folks!

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      Chris Mills 3 years ago from St. Louis, MO until the end of June, 2017

      Thanks Bill, I needed that.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hey Abby! Good to see you back among us. Thank you. Your health articles are perfect for periodicals; I hope you find the time to test the waters.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Crystal, I hope you give it a try soon. I already know you are a fine writer; now you just have to work on that patience thing. :) Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You are very welcome, Cam, and thank you!

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      Faith Reaper 3 years ago from southern USA

      Great tips Bill for those interested in writing for magazines for sure! There are two I would love to write for that are right up my alley so-to-speak : )

      I know a lot of good photographers around HP Town who should submit their photographs to magazines too. I bet the magazine would snap them up in a minute ... or maybe after the patient waiting period!

      Up and more and sharing

      Blessings, Faith Reaper

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      Linda Crampton 3 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

      Thanks for sharing more of your knowledge and experience, Bill. The information is very useful, as always.

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      Nellieanna Hay 3 years ago from TEXAS

      Billy - I so enjoyed the way this began, I thought you were practicing becoming a comedy writer! I love your approach. You could be one, but, then, your versatility is a fact!

      I may have mentioned it before but my first (of 2) attempts to submit to a magazine was at the tender age of 12. That was also my first and last attempt to drink strong drink till 30 or so years later, during which I totally refrained, even at college!

      But at the time of this experience, I was multitasking. Was writing a short story to submit to a contest sponsored by Seventeen magazine, was cleaning up the dishes from my parents' Christmas dinner for friends, after they had all gone out to the farm to fish. Yes, it was warm enough to fish in San Angelo, Texas, at Christmastime.

      My parents were not drinkers. Mother was a teetotaler and Dad only very occasionally had a glass of blackberry wine or a cordial glass of cognac. Those supplies were kept in a high cabinet out of sight and almost out of reach without a ladder. But there'd been eggnog served for the Christmas celebration. Not all of it was consumed at dinner, so 12-yr-old Nellieanna was disposing of the remains by drinking it. It was like a milkshake with a kick. Very tasty. I'd washed all the other dishes except the punch bowl so I was sipping eggnog and making my way down the hall to my room where I was writing the story for the competition. That hall became increasingly treacherous as the story become increasingly outlandish.

      After the punch bowl was empty and I managed to wash it and get it into the drainer to dry, I decided to investigate the upper cabinet, from which I sampled the blackberry wine and cognac, still trudging up and down the hall to my room & story-writing between samplings.

      Mother said I was knocked out and my face was some unnatural color when they returned from the farm and found me sprawled on my bed among the pages of my story. The experience ended any desire I'd ever have to drink anything alcoholic till I married into a drinking family in which it was required for membership. That membership was doomed, along with regular drinking for me.

      But back to age 12. I submitted the story to Seventeen, and PATIENTLY waited for a reply. When it finally came, it began, "We can't all be champs. . . . " That ended my optimistic ambition to be a magazine contributor. Well, I did send in something to Reader's Digest once, later, which cinched it for me, though I've nothing but admiration and respect for those who go for it. I simply figured writing for magazines just wasn't my forte, and retreated into my private literary shell, where all my writing other than personal letters remained buried until I joined Hubpages over 3 years ago. I'm still being amazed at being able to do it here! :-)

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      Nellieanna Hay 3 years ago from TEXAS

      PS - apologies for sounding flippant about a very serious and important avenue of professional writing, which your hub has outlined and covered so well! I enjoyed reading it and listening to the excellent video. It simply triggered that old memory so vividly I was into sharing it before I could stop myself. I guess it somewhat brought on the euphoria & the subsequent sense of defeat of that youthful moment in time!

      I will save this advice in case I do decide to try again. I know that I'm not the same person now & suspect that magazines aren't the same either! I remember when Saturday Evening Post published short-short stories contributed by outside wanna-be writers. Now, for me, - it's just a question of whether writing for magazines would actually be my forte if I got really serious about writing for publishing. But it's not beyond the realm of possibility and your clear instructions would surely help!

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      Jayme Kinsey 3 years ago from Oklahoma

      Very timely hub! I've just begun the process of choosing magazines to be potential victims of my writing attacks. I've sent off to a few already, but it has been way to soon to know if success is anywhere in the future. I am working hard to "forget" about the submissions already sent and focus on the ones yet to do. Now I know that is pretty much the right thing to do.

      Thanks again for sharing some great advice and a little more motivation!

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      Genna East 3 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      Excellent article, Billy. Knowledge of how to achieve success in submitting artcles to magazines is only one aspect; patience is just as important! Up ++. :-)

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      Devika Primić 3 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Submitting Articles To Magazines Requires Patience so true about this approach, writing requires patience overall, well-pointed out with such helpful information.

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      Eiddwen 3 years ago from Wales

      Some more wonderful tips Billy and as I have said before I am sure I learn more from you than from my writing course. Which is going very slowly but I am determined to finish and it can then be knocked off my list. Have a wonderful day Billy.

      Eddy.

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      Vinaya Ghimire 3 years ago from Nepal

      I have been writing for newspapers in Nepal since 2003. However, my articles still get rejected. Over the years, I have learned to accept rejection, and wait patiently for acceptance as well as rejections.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Faith, for sure photographers are needed by magazines and we certainly have some good ones on HP. Thanks for mentioning that, and I hope one day to read your byline in those magazines.

      Blessings always

      bill

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I'm glad Alicia. If these help someone then fantastic. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Nellieanna, what a great story. You had me laughing out loud this morning. At least your learned a valuable lesson about alcohol, although it saddens me that you never tried magazines again. You have such wondrous talent in poetry. I hope you try again my friend.

      blessings and thanks

      bill

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you again Nellianna. I have read some horrendous articles in major magazines. I believe any good writer can be published if they are in the right place at the right time. I hope you try again.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Sharkye, I am happy to hear that you are submitting. Do not be discouraged. Often times, rejections have more to do with your query letter than your writing, so make sure the query letter is done properly. Good luck and thanks for the visit.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Yes it is, Genna. It saddens me that writers get discouraged because of rejection...it is the nature of this business to get rejected often.

      Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Yes it does, DDE...patience and talent and perseverance. Good luck to you my friend and thank you.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Eddy, I have no doubt that you will finish and be better for it. Well done my dear friend and thank you.

      love,

      billy

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Vinaya, what a great comment and one that all should read. Even with your successes you get rejected. That is a very important lesson for all and I thank you for it.

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      Denise W Anderson 3 years ago from Bismarck, North Dakota

      I love your line "..., because dreams feed the soul of a writer during those lonely hours of solitude when it’s just you, the computer and your dog, and even the dog is getting on your nerves." Its great! If we didn't have dreams, we wouldn't be writing. You are so right, Bill! I appreciate your candid articles and down to earth wisdom. Thanks!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Aww, Denise, thank you! I'm so happy that other writers like my writing voice. I try to write so that it seems like a conversation between me and the reader, and it's nice to get affirmation. I appreciate it my friend.

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      Patricia Scott 3 years ago from sunny Florida

      Hi Bill

      Just dropping in to let you know I am thinking of you.

      Great hub. I used to kind of resent those words as if someone was too busy or uncaring to go into detail about my work. But sometimes those two words do sum it up...you got the point across and well as you usually do. No one will leave this hub not well versed in this process. If my plate were not so full, I would pursue this.. Thanks for sharing your expertise with so many.

      Know that many Angels are on the way to you and yours ps

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      PS, I appreciate it any old time you stop by, and especially knowing what a trial your life is right now. Thank you so much for thinking of me. Sending prayers, blessings and hugs your way dear friend.

      bill

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      Suzanne Ridgeway 3 years ago from Dublin, Ireland

      Hi Bill,

      Thanks for another pointer and reminder for magazine articles and the importance of patience. I intend to start looking at local newspapers here in this area or websites of local news/activities/what's on in . . . type ones. My first article I wrote (first one shown here on HP)was published on Epilepsy Ireland in their personal stories segment which I was over the moon about. Then I joined HP wondering if I could write. Now I am looking to my own website, products and more. Patience is definitely something that is needed and hopefully I will continue to have it when on the query letter submissions! Thanks to your great pointers here and on your previous posts I know what to do, how to write letters and how to take positives out of different types of rejection letters. Love how you do this! Thanks my friend for more writing tips!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Suzie! I just sold another article to a local mag for $200....but it took a lot of work to get to this point. I think a lot of writers are not prepared for the time and work it takes to reach the point where you actually sell something to a periodical. I know you understand completely and you are willing to put in the work necessary. Good luck, Irish, although luck really has little to do with it. :)

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      drbj and sherry 3 years ago from south Florida

      You are on the mark with this info, Bill. Writers need talent and also patience ... and persistence ... and patience, etc.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      and persistence, and patience, and persistence, and patience, and.....

      Yes indeedy, drbj...did I mention we need patience???? LOL

      As always, you are appreciated.

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      MG Singh 3 years ago from Singapore

      This is a wonderful post Billy.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you MG...I'm very happy that you like it.

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      Victor W. Kwok 3 years ago from Hawaii

      Great article, bill. And really informative.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you vkwok. I appreciate it, buddy!

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      Nellieanna Hay 3 years ago from TEXAS

      Perhaps I will. Your suggestions make much sense for someone trying it! Thank you, Billy!

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      Aga 3 years ago

      It is a tough world out there! I wish it was easier to break through!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I'm glad to hear that, Nellieanna...best wishes.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Monis, I certainly understand your statement. Good luck to you my friend.

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      Weekend Reader 3 years ago

      Your submission spreadsheet and rejection notices are also valuable when the tax auditor asks whether you are really trying to make money at this writing thing. You don't have to prove you're good, just that you're *trying* hard.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Weekend, excellent point and something I do....thanks for mentioning that.

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      Hawaiian Odysseus 3 years ago from Southeast Washington state

      Hi, Bill!

      I'll cut to the chase with my two questions. (You already know how much I love your writing and benefit greatly from it.)

      Okay, question 1: You mentioned that you save your rejection slips in a file on your computer. Being tech-retarded, I gotta ask (and, Liz, if you're trolling, now's a good time to bash me for being a computer illiterate)--how do you do this?

      Question 2: In your opinion, should query letters be sent via snail mail, or is it acceptable in this day and age to email them to editors? When I was a high school kid and young adult, it was required to submit SASE's for the respective editors' responses.

      Thanks for your time and answers, Bill! I'll be in touch later today...

      Aloha!

      ~Joe

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Good morning Joe!

      Good questions and ones I had to learn from trial and error....but hey, you have me, so we'll just skip the trial and error part.

      As for putting rejections in a file....your email should have a button that says "move"....if you click on that it should give you the option of moving the email (rejection) to a new file...click on "new file" and give it a name and put the rejection in there. How did I do, Liz????

      Query letters are almost always by email now. I don't bother with the agents and publishers who do not accept emails. One could go broke from postage. :)

      Any more questions? You know where to find me.

      Have a great weekend buddy and thanks for the visit.

      Aloha

      bill

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      Dianna Mendez 3 years ago

      As always, I am grateful for your sharing from experience. It seems as if patience is a must when approaching these magazine editors.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Dianna, I think patience is a must in writing in general. Glad this is helpful for you and again, congratulations.

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      Glimmer Twin Fan 3 years ago

      Love the idea of keeping letters so you have a contact. I have tried once to submit a pattern, not an article, but did get a letter saying thanks but no thanks. Have not tried again, but think about it every once in a while. Good tips for me when I do.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Glimmer, it is not for everyone. I don't do it very often and considering that my success rate is pretty good. I'm looking for a way to generate constant income without having to send query letters out all the time. I haven't found it yet but I will. :) Thank you for stopping by and leaving your thoughts.

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