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Updated on April 2, 2013
Nobody WANTS an Abortion!
Nobody WANTS an Abortion!


Sprawled near-naked on cold pavement, in shock and petrified,

Believing at that moment it'd be better had she died!

Damaged and degraded - innocence belied,

Her mind and spirit shattered - through swollen lids she cried.


Just sixteen years of age, buying Christmas gifts for friends,

One man's crazed obsession means another childhood ends.


As her brain begins to function - she feels for her phone,

Dials 911 - this small effort makes her moan.

Blackened eyes and bloodied - at least one broken bone,

Yet all she can remember - is the stench of his cologne!


Sixteen years old, her future bright - top of her class in school,

The world was her oyster - how could fate be so cruel?


Police, bright lights, hard questions - a rape kit and a smear,

Wishing she could curl up and simply disappear.

Her horror indescribable whence the Doctor makes it clear,

The monster who attacked her - has left a souvenir!


Sixteen years old, so sheltered - trusted Justice, Truth and God,

Finding out the hard way that the System's badly flawed!


Disgusted and appalled - this much she knows for sure,

A rapist's seed inside her - would never be endured!

Yet Sunday's Sermon speaks of LIFE - Each Precious, Blessed, and Pure,

It's meant to be - don't question it. His wrath you shall incur!


Sixteen years old, just barely - loved her Country, Kin and Church,

Needing empathy and guidance - yet they left her in the lurch!


Once sparkling with potential - eyes now a vacant stare,

Ostracized and shunned for ending the nightmare.

Revolt and shame her life-mates - the sentence so unfair,

Zygote staunchly defended - The woman?

Not a Prayer!


Long LIVE Roe v. Wade...

Nobody WANTS an Abortion
Nobody WANTS an Abortion

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      Jackie Lynnley 4 years ago from The Beautiful South

      Sure...

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      Hi, Jackie! Thanks for becoming a 'follower' (such a nasty word, eh?)

      Sadly - it was just in time for me to NOT be writing at the hub any longer..lol..

      i have a blog that - if i do say so myself - is becoming very popular AND - it's only a click away!

      Let' me knwo if you'd like directions! lolxx

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      Jackie Lynnley 4 years ago from The Beautiful South

      This is a hard one for me. I can imagine being in such a dilemma and all the horrible feelings one would have but with all that is available today from day one, certainly abortions will be millions lower. It really should be.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Dreamseeker: i believe abortion should be 'allowed' - period - but, within certain perameters. And that's when the religious right pipes up and says - 'WHO'S to set such peramaters'? therefore - nothing gets done - as is their agenda as women continue to suffer..

      yes, best we ALL live by THEIR beliefs - they think that's the fairest way..

      sigh..

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      dreamseeker2 4 years ago

      No woman who's been a victim of rape should have to endure bearing a child. I don't care what they may believe in...it would be nine months of hell on earth. How sad is that?? In cases such as this...and incest, an abortion should be allowed, no matter what church they belong to. Shame on those who point the fingers! Voted it up, for sure. Powerful message to us all.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Vicki: My dear friend - you have been soooo supportive since the moment we 'hub-met'! I cannot thank you enough!

      i hope you will follow me to my new hub - where nobody will be breathing down my neck to make sure i don't dabble in - OMG - ADULT CONTENT!

      be aware that that encompasses politics, rape, child abuse, abortion, gay rights, etc..

      ya know - the important stuff..

      Feel free to talk about the color blue at any time - however..

      lol

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      Vickiw 4 years ago

      How do I love thee? Let me count the ways . . .

      You are courageous. You tell it like it is, and in your own inimitable style.

      You are funny. You are passionate.

      You have a wicked sense of humour that gets every one going.

      You need to be encouraged in your efforts to make duscussion happen.

      Like your other fans, I love reading your witty, on-the-ball Hubs.

      You bring your own beautiful, heart-felt, cutting edge attraction to HP.

      We hope you will grow older, but not any less passionate, writing for us and those on the outside looking in!! Never leave.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Lisa: Your words of encouragement are very much appreciated! If you didn't know this - you do now..lol

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      Lisa J Warner 4 years ago from Conneticut, USA

      Wow ~~~ A difficult subject organized and yes I agree with the word powerful. voted up and shared. You can write girl!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Wildove5: Hello, beautiful! So nice to see you - and - thanks for the vote..

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      wildove5 4 years ago from Cumberland, R.I.

      Incredibly powerful! Voted up!

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      Liz Elias 4 years ago from Oakley, CA

      So well and powerfully put! Brava, brava!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @MizBejabbers: Wow = you certainly have your finger on the pulse of the nation, my friend! That must be VERY frustrating and saddening for you - as it is for me...

      I certainly don't paint you with the same brush - i LOVE your country - i am in shock and awe at what i've watched over the past 12 -15 yyears...

      i kept thinking...wellll..ya know - they'll pull their heads out of their asses soon cause - ya know - they HAVE to see that they're destroying themselves from within..

      but..sadly - i was wrong..

      again..costa rica looks good! lol

      https://snt134.mail.live.com/default.aspx?id=64855...

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      MizBejabbers 4 years ago

      I don't know what is happening either. A few years ago these same people surfaced and called themselves "the Moral Majority", but they were shouted down by reason. Now they seem to have overridden all reason. There are two factors going here: one is greed and the other is a proliferation of fundamentalist religion. Even our more forward-thinking politicians are so discouraged that they are bowing out and going home. Please, don't paint us all with the same brush. There are a few people like me left in every state, but we are rapidly becoming the minority.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @MizBejabbers: I'm so glad you found value here - this was a very difficult account to write!

      i don't know what's happening in your country, my friend - i've a looooong history there and yet - i have lost both respect and hope - of late..

      it's truly as if you're collectively lost your minds and the almighty dollar has replaced the human heart...

      Grrrrrr to the woman. SHAME on her - period! Shame!

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      MizBejabbers 4 years ago

      THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Everyone needs to read this, especially the narrow-minded legislators in my state who overrode the Governor's veto of two very restrictive anti-women, anti-abortion laws. To top it off, one sponsor of one bill was a woman! This woman had stated publicly that she had an abusive first marriage. Unbelievable!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Mazzsays: Thank you, and - welcome!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Sueswan: Exactly, Sueswan..apparently - there is no limit to how many different ways man - and god - can make women suffer..

      Grrrrr...

      thanks for wading through the muck here, my sweet friend!

      AND for sharing, of course..

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Deergha: Your comment stands out, my friend - i feel the passion behind your words!

      Thanks so much for your unerring encouragement, Deergha - it's most appreciated - from the heart!

      And thanks for sharing!!!!

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      Mazzsays 4 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

      Very engaging.

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      deergha 4 years ago from ...... a place beyond now and beyond here !!!

      Much is already said above...and truly speaking do I have words to express my precise feeling after reading your this poem?????

      ...sorry dear Leslie......not finding words exactly. Just i can feel that its direct from your heart to cry for those unfortunate ones and to reach many hearts here. Thanks for sharing this one always.

      Standing Ovation to you my dear friend for this master stroke !!!!

      I do dare to share all across and votes all +++++

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      Sueswan 4 years ago

      Hi Leslie

      My heart goes out to that 16 year old rape victim. Hasn't she suffered enough and the fact there were not any prayers for her was disgusting in my opinion.

      Thanks for your passion and caring.

      Voted up and sharing

      Take care :)

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @DDE,

      @WayneWilkins: Hello, friends - thanks for taking the time to stop by!

      I agree - the world is full of ALL kinds of people - good and bad - men AND women...

      hubs, buds!

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      Devika Primić 4 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Incredible when I started reading I couldn't explain the way I felt sometimes men can are not worth knowing, but not all men are the same, there are all kinds of people in this world that one confronts and when you meet the wrong one all can go wrong.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Blondey: Hello, dear - your words touch my heart and i am deeply humbled! thank you, Rose.

      I agree - we would make an amazing team - we already do!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Carolinemd21: Hello, dear - so nice to see you again so soon - don' t think it goes unnoticed or unappreciated!

      Glad you 'enjoyed' this hub- altho - there's not much 'enjoyable' about it..

      just wrote another abortion hub - this time from the point of the zygote...

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      Rosemary Amrhein 4 years ago from Boston, MA

      Leslie,

      I'm very honored by your comment and pleased !

      No, I just added some more info to it....that should make things a bit more CLEAR.

      Yes, we have the right to differing opinions, and you for one Leslie are good about agreeing to disagree. I respect that in you. :)

      You are one of the rare ones, Leslie. And I do value that about you. ;)xo

      Indeeed--"critical thinking caps"! LMAO or LMFAO either one you got me ROFL!!!

      We would make a powerful team,,,,I always thought that...lol.....love ya lots! thanks for keeping my back!!!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Blondey: Hello, sweet friend - i am VERY happy to see you!

      Yes..i know you're getting flack - but - none from me, did you notice?

      Why? because i respect your opinion as you respect mine - and as long as we can discuss issues with compassion for each others feelings and beliefs - all things are possible...

      our beliefs and opinions can shift - but only if we keep an open mind and put on our critical thinking caps! LOL..

      Don't back down, Rose - but - don't let 'em beat the crap out of you either!

      I'll come by and get your back whenever you want - now..won't that be powerful - considering we're on opposite sides of the issue! LOL

      xx

      ps..i shared yours but..i couldn't 'like' it - i hope you understand...lol

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      Rosemary Amrhein 4 years ago from Boston, MA

      Hi Leslie,

      I found this to be very poetic, well it is a poem after all...I just mean you expressed your thoughts so nicely and well and creatively!

      I'm getting flack over at my hub lol..about the same thing...but hey I won't back down! I have a right to my opinion!!!

      ttys.

      Rose

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      Caroline Marie 4 years ago from Close to Heaven

      Wow Leslie this poem was so amazing. I love your poetry. It is very inspirational.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @WayneWilkins: OMG...that is HORRIBLE! i can hardly read it without feeling ill...

      abortion is SUCH a touchy topic, and yet - it makes no sense to me that the woman's needs are completely discounted and the embryo's become all that counts..

      if someone can make that make sense in my head - then - maybe i can see their perspective..

      I'm certainly NOT for full or even near-full term abortions - unless under dire circumstances, of course - and - i certainly don't want abortion used as birth control - but - NONE THE LESS - it remains MY body until we are TWO bodies - and until then - i make the decisions..

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @VirginiaJennings: Hello, Virginia and welcome to my little corner of the hub! Your views are stated intelligently and succinctly - and i respect the differences we hold and find hope in what we agree on!

      Thanks so much for taking the time!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Bizarrett81: Hello, and welcome my friend! I agree - i also don't agree with abortion past a certain point. I feel that if you can't get it done while in the first 2 -16 weeks - there has to be extenuating circumstances of some nature...

      i wouldn't want to see it go anything over your 20 week mark, for sure - but ALWAYS leaving room in case of emergency!

      Love your comment! I hate assholes!

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      Virginia Jennings 4 years ago

      Now- I will freely admit that I have never been raped- and I hope never to be as my husband would likely end up in jail (he'd probably kill someone)

      However I am reading this post after having a baby myself and just recently watching October Baby- it was a very touching story about a girl who survived a failed abortion. I have also had to have a D&C because of a failed pregnancy... I was pregnant for 5-6 weeks before I miscarried. I had talked to him/her letting him/her know that I was doing my best to keep him/her. That I hoped he/she wasn't in any pain. The heartbreak, knowing my body had failed my baby (I had health issues that was keeping me from conceiving).

      I got to see my wiggly little baby at 8 weeks on the screen which is just 4 weeks after I saw that positive pregnancy test. I feel very connected to living things- I can't even stand to see animals killed for food. (which has no bearing on this subject other than their death atleast would be doing some good)

      I believe all life is sacred. I don't believe in abortion. While I DO believe a raped woman should at least have the choice to make that decision for herself- since I have never been in her shoes; I don't think abortion for other than medical reasons or rape should be done. PLUS I would also still like to hold out hope that even if a woman was raped and could still carry the baby to term she would. I'd like to think she would maybe even write a kind letter to her baby letting him/her know that the circumstances are just too painful to keep her/him but that the mom is allowing her/him to be adopted into a loving home.

      I believe every life is created for a purpose. That failed pregnancy prepared my body to accept the successful pregnancy that came two months later. I know my views may be very utopian but they are what they are.

      No one should have to die for another person's transgressions.

      My heart goes out to any woman who has been raped and is stuck trying to figure out this very emotional, very tough decision. A decision that will weigh on their minds for YEARS to come. A decision that because of the hormones flooding their body they may not even be fully prepared to make objectively. It is a sign of the times, the world we live in today :( *hugs*

      Families, please be more supportive when someone comes to you trying to make this decision, help them weigh all the options before hand instead of judging them after the fact.

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      bizarrett81 4 years ago from Maine

      Love this... such a great message and one I don't think people really consider. If I was raped and became pregnant, I would not want the baby, it would be impossible to move on from the ordeal. I dont believe in abortions after a certain point (In Maine it is illegal after 20 weeks, which I agree with, after all at 20 weeks I found out I was having a boy and could see his whole little wiggly body on the screen). But I also believe that every woman should have a right to do what they want with their bodies, and while I personally would never go down that road if I got pregnant, I would want the option there for if something like the above poem happened. Because sometimes a woman can take every precaution in the world, can be abstinant, and then an asshole can come along and take that from her, and should she have to bear his child? NO

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @DrCil: Hello again, my friend - i am grateful that you chose to come back for a...'second helping'...lol..

      btw...i do write some stuff that actually considered funny...LOL..

      i don't wear my 'libra' on my sleeve every single second, ya know...

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      Dr Cil 4 years ago

      So beautiful, yet so very sad! It has to be devastating for such a thing to happen to anyone!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @GennaEast: Hi, Genna! I agree - abortion must be a last resort - but it must be an available resort..

      I love your open-mindedness and am humbled by your kind words...

      Thanks so much for visiting - the light's always on, dear..

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Tobusiness: Hi, Jo! So nice to see you my friend..i absolutely adore your poems - they're hilarious!

      Proud of me? gosh, geez, golly...i'm not great at accepting such a beautiful statement - but - thank you..

      Altho - it's not like i can help myself - things that aren't right - niggle at me..

      there are ways to make them better - i know there are..

      even if we have to change one mind at a time...slowly...it's better than not..

      Thanks for taking the time, Jo!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Blondey: Hi, hon...SUCH a touchy subject, i understand that..

      But, when someone puts the words 'no right' in the same sentence as 'women' - i gotta tell ya - it starts a-twistin' into a knot..lol..

      I certainly would never advocate using abortion as birth control - unless of course - those extremist republicans got their way and there WAS NO CONTRACEPTION - or a HUGE penalty for using the devil's protection...LOL..

      it's touchy, yes - but - men have full sovereignty over their bodies - so should women..

      btw..i'm all in favor of time limits for abortions as well - after that it's too damned bad!

      12 weeks? dunno...but having it open ended is ridiculous - unless a life is in danger of course..

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      Genna East 4 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      Dear Leslie; I don’t know how to express more than what has always been written in the commentary above. I was so moved by this poem, my tears are blurring my vision.

      While I am not in favor of abortion and hope that it is a last resort, it needs to be safe, legal and not something others decide. (Whenever someone mentions abortion, one hears the argument that pro-choice individuals support partial birth abortions. Well, I don’t know anyone who supports partial birth abortions unless it is to save the life of the mother.) I am a mother, a soon to be first-time grandmother in just a few weeks, and a Christian who believes in the value of life. I am a strong supporter of the morning after pill, and do not ascribe to the “a fertilized egg is a person.” This is a woman's decision with God, not her government, nor the public.

      Your courage in writing your thoughts with such a candid, creative and eloquent mind is very welcome at HP! :-)

      Cheers to billybuc and others for their support.

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      Jo Alexis-Hagues 4 years ago from Bedfordshire, U.K

      ImKern, better late than never, hey!.... What an amazing piece, there are always certain subject matter that are guaranteed to touch a nerve in most of us. However, a woman's body is hers and hers alone as is a man's. We may choose to share it, but NO ONE!!!....NO GOVERNMENT NO PREACHER and most certainly NO COWARDLY RAPEST have the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. In the case of the rape of a young girl, who is almost herself a child, it is obscene to force her to live with this. How do the children of rape get through life knowing that their very existence is as a result of an obscene violent act by a father against a mother. A mother who will probably never be able to set eyes on this child without remembering the disgust and pain. Rape is an act of hate, every child deserves to be loved.

      ImKarn, I echo what Becky said, I'm also very proud you.

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      Shining Irish Eyes 4 years ago from Upstate, New York

      I am sharing this powerful poetry as I strongly believe women have the right to choose their own course. Furthermore, until men have the ability to become pregnant, they need to butt the hell out of the situation. How they think they can even give their opinion on a strictly female issue is ridiculous.

      I read some comments on here and my question to these people would be: "What if the women was told that the fetus will kill her if she continues to carry it? For example a tubular pregnancy. Is that a sin as well?"

      Voting up and sharing.

      Damned! I am proud of you girl!

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      Rosemary Amrhein 4 years ago from Boston, MA

      I think if it's a choice the woman makes and she's irresponsible, she has no right to kill the error...It's really a matter of whether one agrees it's killing life. I belive some scientists says life begins at conception...I'l have to look that up to be sure. If life begins at conception...also, many abortions I've heard go to after 3-4 months, or even up to 7-9mo? Isn't partial birth abortion when the baby is ready to be born but the docotr inserts something which kills the baby and then it is taken out deceased but it would have been fine? I'm not sure if the doctor uses an instrument to crush the baby's skull and body?

      Either way in that case it sounds brutal and i belive the baby can feel it too, especially since it sucks its thumb inside the mother and so on.

      I think that must be a horrendous thing.

      But you probably would not agree with me no matter what. on this issue anyways, that's ok "we can agree to disagree"..

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Blondey: Yes dear..it is tricky...but...the fact remains - if 'religious organizations' are sooooo worried about the zygote - WHERE is their compassion for the actual, full-grown woman? when MEN are condemned for slipping on a condom or getting a vasectomy - at least THEN it would be a balanced bias..

      As it stands - it's just another opportunity for men - and religion - to control the female flocks...

      xx

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Healthylife2: Thank you! I adore folks who try to NOT judge - or - try to judge with empathy. It's beyond the ken to think that anyone would have more control over MY own body - than ME!!! I can't even comprehend it! But - that's not the only problem : how society looks at the crime of rape is also soooo wrong - it's the ONLY crime where the victim has to prove her innocence. You can have your bicycle stolen or get mugged - and have WAY more credibility than a woman who's been raped! It's absolutely insane!

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      Rosemary Amrhein 4 years ago from Boston, MA

      ;) :)

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      Ken Taub 4 years ago from Long Island, NY

      and I love you both...

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      Rosemary Amrhein 4 years ago from Boston, MA

      Thanks Leslie,

      I understand.....more than you know....I guess I've just been hesitant about it but I do understand. It's tricky!

      love ya too. :)

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Blondey; ime thinks we'll have to agree to disagree on this tender topic, my friend..I'm so sorry for your experience - weather you were or were not pregnant - i understand your regrets..

      Now..if you agree that 'hurting the mother' includes her emotional well being - then - we could agree to agree..

      lol..

      either way...love ya!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Blondey: I agree - they are jerks, but - they also have a genetic interest, soooo...

      ASLEEP? now, that's what i call dirty sex!

      Sooo..what you're saying is - The battle of the sexes 'RAGES' on?

      thanks for taking the time to stop by, my friend! Always a pleasure..

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      Rosemary Amrhein 4 years ago from Boston, MA

      I do want to say that Catholic and Christian at least now, do offer many services of help and comfort and counseling to woman in these situations if they choose to keep the baby or not.

      I understand in cases of rape or incest people would understandingly not want to have the baby. But for the sake of both sides- some would anyways becasue of their own opinion on things. I won't tell people what to do- i'm saying what I feel. amen.

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      Healthy Life 4 years ago from Connecticut, USA

      I love that you take on the brave and exciting topics! I can't imagine anyone feeling that they are in a position to make such an important decision for someone else. Having to deal with rape and a possible unwanted pregnancy adds to the horror of it all. You really have a gift for making people feel another person's pain. I'm just one of those people that doesn't judge others and would only help someone make a decision if asked but I know that is not the case with everyone.

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      Rosemary Amrhein 4 years ago from Boston, MA

      I was pressured into taking the MAP which I took. But at the time I thought it was a form of birth control. The pharmacist told me it was, and my trusted sister and friend told me to take it. I think if I was pregnant, it ceased the baby to exist, but I doubt I was. Either way I took it two hours after the fact. I did feel regret for awhile after. But imagine how I'd feel if I actually went into a clinic! My sister who told me to take the pill, had one in a clinic, many years ago, and to this day cannot forgive herself. I also still think it's bad no matter what the circumstance- because human life to me is human life, that's all. Only if the case is it would hurt the mother, then she should choose if she wants to live or the baby. I think abortion, like the suicide pill, and the killing of elderly or handicapped people is wrong. God decides when it's time to die.

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      Rosemary Amrhein 4 years ago from Boston, MA

      I think men who pressure their woman to get an abortion when the woman doesn't want to are jerks. Especially if the woman tells the man at the start of the relationship she would never get one. And especially if he gets her pregnant while she's asleep. Men can be really selfish. I don't believe in abortion myself.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @DeborahBrooks: i so understand, dear!

      I adore your spirit, girlfriend - now - just keep it tied DOWN until you're alllll better! Geez..you're worse than a kid who wants to go out and play......waaaahhh...

      (lol..you know i'm teasing...xx)

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      Deborah Brooks Langford 4 years ago from Brownsville,TX

      Leslie this still stirs my soul.. just had to read it again.. Blessings to you for writing this.. I love your boldness

      I think I have cabin fever.. being sick I haven't been able to go anywhere

      cant get in to see the doctor. ugh!!

      Happy New Year please be safe

      Here is to many more New years for both of us..

      Sharing and loving

      Debbie

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Oldalbion: Sigh...we know all men aren't the same - omg! The problem is that too many are! Rape is by FAR the #1 crime - and by far the most under-punished!

      The numbers don't lie - now - it's time to wake up and smell the destruction!

      Please - share if you care!

      Happy New Year, my friend - be safe, healthy, and content!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @GypsyRoseLee: forgive you? silly woman - for WHAT? I'm pretty laid back as far as 'tit for tat' goes dear...

      i want people to read me because they LOVE what i write - and NEED to read it..CAN'T WAIT even...

      perhaps even toss and turn at night wondering when i'm going to publish something else??? OK, OK - clearly i've gone...over the cliff here..lol..

      In any case - i'm glad that this packs a punch - it was meant to shake from complacency..

      grrrrr...i hate complacency...lol

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      Graham Lee 4 years ago from Lancashire. England.

      Hi Leslie. a powerful and heartwrenching hub. It makes me want to shout from the roof tops that men are not all the same. Absolutely first class. Well done.

      Graham.

      Voted up and all.

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 4 years ago from Riga, Latvia

      Forgive me Leslie. Somehow this got by me. Vote up. Powerful stuff. My heart goes out to women who have to suffer that way. This gets to the heart of the matter and packs a good wallop. Passing this on.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Ray: Grrrrrrrrrrr.....where the hell have you been? Loll...don't answer that - i already know the laundry list of issues - including locking yourself in your attic with a dead phone and no neighbors!

      I'm just happy you're alive AND loving on my writing!

      kissesxx

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      Ray 4 years ago

      Small wonder you have many dedicated followers luv...The wording of your writings ,poems or otherwise,always strike a cord. That in turn gets people thinking ...and reacting !

      So talented !

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 4 years ago from United Kingdom

      Ha-ha. Tempting as that offer is, I think the Aztecs already beat us to it. Or was it the Mayans? choco-chilli is a good name, though. It's fun to say.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Topquark: Well, hello! You're the first to mention that 'comment'! Thanks for noticing - and thanks for being an intelligent, critically thinking human being! Bravo!

      Please - come again - the light's always on!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Btrbell: Sigh...a toughie, this one, Randi...beat the crap out of me..

      I do sooooo appreciate your kind, supportive words...kinda makes me wanna think about writing another one..

      And - the pleasure is allll mine, dear friend! You good peeps!

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      topquark 4 years ago from UK

      "Nobody wants an abortion"... so true. A woman wants an abortion like an animal caught in a trap wants to gnaw its own leg off. Women need abortion to stay available as an option.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Phoenix2327: Mmmmmmm...i like that choco-chili - let's patent it! Lol..

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      Randi Benlulu 4 years ago from Mesa, AZ

      Amazing poem, my friend! Up, up and awesome+ You have such a talent with words and a great grasp of what really matters. Proud to know you!

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 4 years ago from United Kingdom

      I don't mind vanilla but with the endless array of flavours in the world, why stick to just one? I enjoy reading your hubs. They're sort of like chocolate and chilli. Delicious with a bit of bite. Yum.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Born2care2001: Lol..i'm gonna have to have a word with Nellieanna - bless her adorable heart! She's clearly started a rumor that's catching fire with no kindling..lol..

      I'm STAYING! You're stuck with me - stuck like glue! we clear?

      Lol..

      now..let's kiss and make up...

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @CatherineOtto: Honey - if everyone agreed with me - what a boring world it would be! Better as well - but boring..lol..

      I know we have tons in common - and i appreciate a good conversation with an intelligent, civilized friend..

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Bravewarrior: I know you do! Why limit a womans right to choose but nothing on the man? It's CLEARLY biased based on who runs the world and makes the rules..

      we need to be ever vigilant here, i fear..

      for some reason - they feel they need to control us - i've often wondered if it's an issue of fear.. ya know? uh-huh...

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @MartieCoetser: Hello, my friend - as mentioned above - this hub's been 'down' for about 18 hours now..sigh..it soooo irritates me, but - i do my best to invoke patience...ohmmm...(grrrrrr....lol)..

      Nellieanna's yo mama? You lucky lucky girl, you - she is amazingly wise and unbelievably beautiful!

      You've already informed me that 'our friend' above has been banned - but none the less - you know i appreciate your having my back!

      Warm thoughts and best wishes!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Phoenix2327: Hi! I'd have responded soon, but - they 'unpublished' the hub! I seem to displease the powers that be on a regular basis - i'm not 'vanilla' enough...

      sigh...i do try - can you tell? lol

      I appreciate your encouraging words of support, dear and i will do my damndest to be heard! like i always say - share if you dare..lol..

      Btw - you guys could not possibly get rid of me that easily, even if ya wanted to - my skin is thick - the marshmallow is usually well covered..lol..

      i would miss soooooooo many hubbers - it makes me tear up to think about it...

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      Catharine 4 years ago

      Hi Leslie,

      I value your friendship and opinions too. I simply wanted to clarify my point of view, and yes we definitely can agree to disagree on this. We are on the same page on so many things, and I appreciate your honesty and lack of animosity, as well as your writing ability :)

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      Rev Bruce S Noll HMN 4 years ago from Asheville NC

      Leslie,

      Listen to your heart! Whatever you feel is good for you, I accept! You are talented and no one can take that away from you. You are intelligent and bold and free! What else could anyone ask for? I say, of course, just keep being you...but stay in touch, no matter where! K?

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      Shauna L Bowling 4 years ago from Central Florida

      Leslie, I believe in freedom of choice. No government should impose upon a woman whether or not to carry a child. Rape is scary. You think you're going to die. And the memories never leave you. Ever. Even if you haven't been impregnated, the memories haunt you from time to time.

      Awesome poem of awareness and conscience.

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @CatherineOtto: I know your stance on the topic of rape and agree with you 100%, as you know! I know you read the article i wrote on that dickhead aikins - sooo arrogant that he wouldn't step down until he was slapped down...SIX terms??? He had friends and supporters who believe the same crap he does...trust me on that..

      As far as the abortion issue goes - we'll just have to agree to disagree, my friend!

      You know i value your friendship and your opinions..

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Lovedoctor926: I feel your support, girlfriend - all the way to canada! I also appreciate you verbalizing it every now and then - and you know i feel exactly the same! And - on Epi's behalf - and because i'm politically incorrect - of COURSE you're invited...LOL..

      Mmmmmwwwwwaaaaaahhhh.....xx

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Epigramman: Oh, goody - Nellie's coming...who else E?

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Epigramman: Lol...see what happens when i have a drink? ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....i'm out like a light! omg..i'm the life of the party - can ya just imagine?

      Ummmm....not!

      You're corrupting me with alcohol...(hic..()

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Nellieanna: You can't get rid of me that easy, Nellie! I can't tell you how much i appreciate your passionate, interesting comments! You know what's happening my friend - i like that in a woman...(or a man..lol)

      namaste, dear...

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Epigramman: Hmmmm....where did this comment disappear to? Lol...i found the one under it, but...sigh..

      sadly, ep - being the stubborn type - the more i'm pushed - the more i'm committed to doing it my way....

      powers that be - be damned...(i think..yikes..lol)

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Billybuc: If and when i ever go into battle, Bill - You're coming with me! Final answer! Thanks for your amazing support, my friend!

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      Martie Coetser 4 years ago from South Africa

      Lesley, this is the kind of prose-poem that shocks a reader to a standstill. It rips into the subconscious, pulls bad memories - not only of personal experiences, but also of detail we have heard, read, saw - and it brings us over and over to the point where we just know that all systems fail when it comes to serious evil. It seems to me if man is born incapable of creating a system efficient enough to prevent and fight serious EVIL.

      I see you, Leslie, as a writer with the extra-ordinary talent to confront readers with reality. You call a spade a spade and you force us to react impulsively. Via reaction, we expose our true nature, including our wounds, scars and shortcomings.

      Re learntosuckless - keep in mind that he/she is a new member with only one hub published up to date - and according to the title, a rant. They don't know us or our ways. I guess we should just tell them that negative comments are not welcome in here, but that they are welcome to present their views on the matter as well as their views on people's reaction on the matter in an entire hub, in accordance with HubPage's rules. After all, HubPages is THE site for sharing personal knowledge, perceptions and wisdom.

      Take care, Leslie! Write on, hub on, USE your talents, be happy! DON'T approve negative comments; don't allow anybody to spoil your hubs. Rather discuss them via email with your close friends. (Believe me, I've learned this lesson the hard way. Ask Nellieanna; she's my momma; she treated my wounds.)

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 4 years ago from United Kingdom

      Leslie, I already said this to billybuc and now I'm saying this to you. We need people like you and Bill to poke us out of our complacency and remind us we have social responsibilities (or words to that effect) . Your fans love you for your spirited and inspired writings, for your honest and witty responses and your 'give 'em hell' attitude when visitors don't play nice. (Just take the compliment.)

      At the end of the day, it's your choice if you want to leave, but please remember all those who will miss you. :( (No pressure, just telling it like it is.)

      You're not really going to leave are?!

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      Catharine 4 years ago

      Hi Leslie,

      I think it's appalling and inexcusable whenever women are raped, and it makes me sick when people like Todd Atkins claim that a "woman's body has a way of shutting down" conception during a "legitimate rape", implying the heinous lie that a woman must have "really wanted it" if she managed to conceive during a rape. Obviously Mr. Atkins never took high school biology! A US judge was just publicly censored by a judicial board for remarks similar to this, and this kind of misinformed misogyny really sickens me.

      But I do have my own religious views that even a zygote has worth, that life begins at conception and is valuable. It's not a fetus or baby's fault that they were created by a monster, however I DO NOT support rapists having paternal rights. But I have heard of women who made the sacrifice of carrying the baby to term and either giving it up for adoption, or even managing to love the baby for what it is--a valuable human being--despite the crime of its conception.

      The organization I belong to, Feminists for Life, shares stories of women who made that decision. I personally feel that choosing to abort a baby conceived in rape only further extends the cycle of violence begun by the rapist. I am 100% sure you're not going to like what I'm saying, but it's what I believe .

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Learntosuckless.....here's the thing buddy.....between Leslie and I and a couple hundred of our loyal followers, we can get your ass kicked off of this site.....so take your attitude somewhere else where you might be appreciated. This is where serious writers write; writer wannabees can go practice somewhere else....like kindergarten for instance.

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      lovedoctor926 4 years ago

      Leslie, I support you here. You're an amazing writer! Epi, am I invited too? lol. nothing like a classic rum eggnog to make your guests more merry.

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      epigramman 4 years ago

      Hi Nellieanna - you're invited too - how about a rum and egg nog?

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @learntosuck: no..i just don't like assholes...you've been flagged, now go away little boy - you're bothering the adults...

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      Nellieanna Hay 4 years ago from TEXAS

      Whew!

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Epigramman: Just read it Colin - that was very quickly - and beautifully done...

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      epigramman 4 years ago

      Leslie? leaving? She's just over at my place having a rum and coca cola - ole!

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      Nellieanna Hay 4 years ago from TEXAS

      Leslei - - -Never - I repeat NEVER - - fret for a moment about delay or any other byproduct of your being honest and true-blue in expressing your strong convictions, which involve you fully.

      Do not - I repeat - DO NOT leave HP. Your honesty is priceless. But, still, do what you think best, of course. Just one adage: -no one can eat it and have it too. 'Payment' buys - - too much.

      The tragedy in Connecticutt was/is a major priority. All these innocent and courageous lives, victims of another crazed youth. Gun control is an evident need. But I have to question the personal philosophy involved. I admit that my first response is that we've taught folks to resort to violence, in lieu or better responses, if opposed. It's reaping what's been & is being sowed. Ads, cartoons, movies, shows teach this to youngsters.- Why be surprised if they buy into it? Why is this being allowed? Aren't' its consequences dramatic enough yet?

      Couldn't sensible handling of frustration be promoted? Oh, it's not so very cool but, . . . what does it take for reevaluation of what is being foisted on our vulnerable kids at every hand, in the name of sales &/or entertainment? Have we become so purblind?

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Leartosuckless: Lol...well, hello to you too! I see you haven't taken your own name's advice yet? That's ok - we're patient over here at the hub - but - not forever..

      Honestly - i don't like your comment - but not only because of the words - which are untrue - but moreso - the 'tude!

      You've never 'visited me before - have some manners - that's what we do here...if you can't manage that - don't bother 'visiting'...

      Onto other subjects: If you find these words to be 'LOVELY' - you're beyond my contempt..

      And on that note - i doubt i gained a new fan, eh?

      ah, well...such is my lot in life...lol..

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      Karen Silverman 4 years ago

      @Homesteadbound: Hi, Cindy, so nice to see you - unfortunately under these circumstances..

      Thank you so much for your beautiful compliment - it is deeply appreciated, even though i'm squirming just a tad - i'm better at giving than receiving..(compliments too..lol)..

      I sooo hope we're making a difference - i hope i'm not fooling myself into thinking we are- cause i DO think we are...maybe one person at a time - maybe only 1 a week/month/year - but...every one is one more, yes?

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      Terry Chestnutt 4 years ago from Cleveland, Ohio

      Interesting reference to God. What do we do with the fact that hideous things happen in a world perhaps created by God? The God that created the lamb also created the lion, it would seem, and when the lion prays for his meat it is provided. Puzzling, to be sure.

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      epigramman 4 years ago

      Hi Leslie - I just wrote it up - my take on the abortion issue called A life denied - wrote it on my walk around the bay of my lake or my writer's walk as I call it - lake erie time 4:15pm