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Social Issues: The World Has Changed And We Don't All Fit In A Box

Updated on January 27, 2013

You probably think this is another article about politics, right? Not this time. It is an article inspired by a stupid remark made by former Presidential candidate Mitt Romney about 47% of the population but I don’t want to talk about politics; not today.

For weeks on end I felt like I was beating my head against a wall. Everywhere I went, I had to argue about this Mitt Romney statement. Was I the only one that saw that remark as purely divisive? Accurate or not, I have a pet peeve about generalizations. I hate them. Generalizations take individuals, in all their uniqueness and squeeze them into a “category”. It bugs me.

Okay, I can’t write this without providing an example and the best one I have is Mitt Romney’s recent statement that 47% of Americans don’t pay taxes and feel entitled. Now I won’t dispute that 47% don’t pay taxes because I’m not smart enough to know any better. But I don’t believe for a minute that they all feel entitled to housing, food stamps, and health care. So let’s think about those that are receiving government benefits for reasons other than just being lazy ass, entitled, worthless human beings. I’ll give you a few examples to think about.

SOME personal stories

Tom: Three years ago my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Because she had had a suspicious mammogram six months before the diagnosis, my insurance company said it was pre-existing and dropped our coverage. We drained our savings, borrowed from family, exhausted our credit cards and, lost our home. We owe $335,000 for her surgery, radiation, and chemo treatments. We’re renting a room now and without food stamps, we would starve.

Frank: I’m 83 years old and my wife died 8 months ago. I thought we had life insurance but she forgot to make the premium payments. She had Alzheimer’s. She forgot to pay the rest of the bills too and now I've spent all our savings trying to catch up the late fees and pay for her funeral. She didn't mean to do it. She just forgot. I don’t know how I’ll make it this winter without fuel assistance.

Jennifer: Things were going great until Mom had the stroke. We tried to take care of her at home but it was too hard. I couldn't lift her from the wheelchair to the bed. A nursing home was the only option. She didn't have any insurance and she’s too young for Medicare. I pay them $4100 a month from my savings. I didn't have that much to begin with but it was an IRA and they charged me a 10% penalty for early withdrawal. I sold my car and now I ride the bus to the nursing home. The social worker gave me some vouchers or I wouldn't be able to go. I wish I could have cared for Mom here.

Michael: When I got laid off 11 months ago, I didn't worry too much. I was a good employee with a proven track record of success. It never entered my mine that I wouldn’t’ be able to find a job because of my age. Hell, I’m only 54. I’ve got plenty of good years left in me but I can’t even get an interview. When I didn't get the job I interviewed for last week, I called them and asked what had gone wrong. They said it wasn't anything I did; they just hired a younger worker who didn't need so much money. I asked if we could discuss it but they said no, they had so many new college grads looking for work that they just weren't interested in someone who would take the job and stay ten more years. It was just too costly in the long run. We would have been okay but my wife lost her job three weeks ago. We were already behind and it’s already gotten worse. Her company didn't give her a severance package. I’m getting unemployment but it’s only $220 a week. That won’t pay our mortgage and utilities and, it runs out in 4 more weeks. We won’t make it without food stamps and fuel assistance unless we find work in the next month.

Alisha: Don’t judge me. I know it wasn't smart but it’s done now. I know it shouldn't have happened but he said he loved me. No one has ever loved me. Not ever. We were going to get married. That’s what I thought anyway. And then he beat me. He broke my jaw and my arm. I was in the hospital for a week. That’s when I found out I was pregnant. He said he was sorry, in that letter he wrote me from jail. Do you think he really is? It would be a lot easier if he came back. My Dad threw me out and won’t let me come home. I found a part time job but I have to work second shift and can’t find anyone to keep my baby, not anyone I can afford anyway. Wick pays for the baby food and I eat when I can. I’ve applied for food stamps. Do you think they will give them to me? It was my fault. I thought he loved me.

So, what's my point?

My point is that none of these stories is the same. They can’t be lumped into the category of people who feel entitled. They just can’t. There are hundreds of thousands of stories like this: hard luck stories. They are real life stories. They are stories about people who need help and…here’s the catch.

Our world has changed. Fifty or more years ago, communities of people would have reached out to help. Churches and civic organizations and run-of-the-mill everyday people would have fed, clothed, transported, and donated to these people in need. But not today. Oh no, we’re too damn busy and selfish and greedy. We don’t have time for each other. Hell, we don’t even know each other. We pass on the street or in the grocery store and we don’t even look up. We might miss a text message or an alert on our smart phone. And God forbid we look up and see someone we know, they might want to chat and we sure don’t have time for that.

Most of us don’t even know our neighbors. We know what they drive and where they work but we don’t know what they care about or if they are hurting. We don’t know because we can’t slow down when we get home from work to say hello across the fence or speak as we come down the walk of our condo.

For those who want to complain about what government is doing, ask yourself if you’re willing to pick up the slack. Until you are, you better be glad that government is doing something. Our cities are ill prepared to handle the increased numbers of homeless that will result if these folks don't get a little help.


There is a role for government too

No one hates big government more than me. Ask anyone who knows me. And if you want to talk about the abusers of government resources, I’ll agree, there are way too many. I’ll almost choke as I say this but…that’s why there needs to be better regulation of these social programs. Government employees need better management to make these programs more effective and efficient.

Can’t government employees be trained to think outside the box? Does everyone who applies for government assistance need to fit in a 6” x 6” x 3” box? Can’t they ask questions or design a form that allows an INDIVIDUAL to explain their circumstances? We aren’t all the same. We don’t all fit the category. We’re not all 5’8”, 135 pound, blue-eyed blondes who work at MacDonald’s. We’re people, real people, real people who sometimes have problems we didn't ask for. 47% Mr. Romney? Maybe in your world but not in mine.

Guilt by Comparison

My friend Bill Holland wrote an article that got stuck in my head. You can click the link on the right to read it. As I began to write today, I found myself feeling a bit of guilt. This piece I've written is somewhat contradictory to Bill's piece where he puts the responsibility for caring for each other back where it should be, on us, as individuals. I've struggled with this most of the day because although I completely agree with Bill, I don't think there are enough individuals yet who will step up to the plate, not enough to handle the load anyway. As a society comprised of "individuals", we have a ways to go.

I hope you will read this and then read Bill's beautiful hub and began to think about what you can do to help us as a nation move in a more positive direction of taking care of our own. I know I have my own work to do.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    cmccarty6687, hello! Your comment brought tears to my eyes. You have earned your way and I applaud you. Your scholarship was not a hand out. It was an investment in a young future and it has obviously paid off. There is plenty of money in this great country but until we learn to manage our resources better and develop a system of fair taxation, we will remain "broken". I agree totally that we should help each other and I know you will do more than your share. Kudos to you and your dear mother for your courage and sense of values.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    Martie, you are so right. In truth, most of us are one paycheck from needing help. One catastrophic illness can wipe out an entire life's savings. One lost job can put an entire family on the street. We certainly don't need more government but we sure need a government that works. With all the excess I see around me, I'll never believe we can't take care of those who need it, if we just quit wasting it on those who could help themselves a little more. Thanks for the great comment.

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    Cortney McCarty 4 years ago from Kentucky

    When I was in high school we received food stamps because my mother worked in the cafeteria in a public elementary school. A large majority of her check went to health insurance for my mother, my sister and myself. What was left was not enough to cover everything it needed to. My mother worked hard at what she did and was still a wonderful mother. There was no sense of entitlement there just providing for her family the best way she knew how.

    When I went to college I attended Berea College where every student is given a full tuition scholarship and they must qualify financially. So i received a 4 year Bachelor's degree owing $250 upon graduation. This was essentially a hand out but in a different way.

    You see at Berea College the scholarships are from very generous donation mostly from Berea Alumni. They understand the importance of what they were given and want to pay it forward to others that need it. This is a small scale model of what i wish we saw more of in this world.

    Since graduating Berea College I have worked hard sometimes multiple jobs while pursuing a Master' degree to make something of myself. I am essentially a product of handouts and will always do whatever I can to help others in need.

    Is the welfare system in this country flawed? Yes. Does it anger me to see those who take advantage of it? Yes.

    But I would let a scammer get a part of something I give everyday to know that there is also someone in truly hurting getting the assistance they need.

    I do not understand the wealthy populations obsession with holding onto their money. I hope to one day be well off financially but I make it a resolution that I will always use what I have to help others when I can.

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    Martie Coetser 4 years ago from South Africa

    There are indeed hundreds of thousands of stories like these. I bet all of us have one or two similar stories - about unexpected bad luck. And then, to find a way out... to survive. Especially hard for those who had tried to take care of all possible adversaries... Unforeseen disasters: Medical fund goes bankrupt, affirmative actions, retrenchment, fire, an accident, etc. etc. and all of a sudden one is part of the lazy asses, entitled, worthless human beings...

    So terribly sad. Life is not fair!

    Excellent hub, Irc7815!

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    Thanks for caring and sharing torrilynn.

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    torrilynn 4 years ago

    I feel that society is always changing and that these issues

    should be taken seriously.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    @ Levertis - I more than appreciate your comment and agree with you on every point you have made so well. Your 40 years of service more than paid for the little bit of help you received. You cannot put a price on what you did to help children with disabilities. Your education was a worty investment and if my tax dollars helped you while you were getting that education, then I too am proud to have been a contributor. I too feel strongly that these programs are needed but must be better regulated. Thank you!

    @ web923 - thank you so much for the visit and for the support of my thoughts.

    @ macteacher - thank you for your thoughtful comment. Yes, we needed to learn some lessons and still do.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    dwachira - hello, and thank you for the visit and the comment.

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    Wendy Golden 4 years ago from New York

    Great hub, thank you for reminding everyone that misfortune can strike anyone at any time. It's not fair to judge people for needing help because so many have lost so much in the last few years.

    Our nation is in real trouble and I'm afraid things may get worse before they get better. There were some lessons we all needed to learn as a country and we're learning them now, although it's very painful. We're going through a period of real turmoil - and it's up to us whether we grow from it or not. Thanks for such a thoughtful hub. :-)

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    Bill Blackburn 4 years ago from Twentynine Palms, California

    Linda, in carpenter terms... you hit the nail square on the head! Excellent article and I wholeheartedly agree with your position.

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    Levertis Steele 4 years ago from Southern Clime

    What a great hub that everyone should read! Stereotyping is a monster that bashes a bunch of categories for what one does. I know single moms who are on government assistance while attending college full time. Some even have part-time jobs. I know many young dropouts who have finally grown up and are working on a GED or in a junior or senior college while receiving assistance. Some are working on trades, and others are seeking a four-year college degree. Unfortunately, some get that GED or graduate college and become a member of the "can't find a job category," so they continue on assistance. Some eventually get a job.

    When I graduated college, I wanted a Master's degree. I did not have educational assistance, so, I worked part-time and received $50.00 in food stamps a month to help with food. That was allowed for full-time students who lived alone without help. I was such a student because my parental support ended after college. I completed graduate school, got a professional job, and retired recently after many years of service.

    My point is that there are many people who use government assistance because they need it as a temporary step-up to a financially secure life. I was appreciative of the help, and I am proud to have been a taxpayer for nearly 40 years. I have given back way more than I used of the government in two years. I am not ashamed of that. I am grateful because it provided needed help while I was working hard to help myself. Besides, I was not taking “an arm and a leg.” I paid my bills myself, including my apartment rent.

    After getting the Master’s, I worked with children and young adults with disabilities for many years. Some became successful, some became semi-successful, and others did not reach independence. The second and latter are receiving government assistance according to need. There are many other individuals, even older, who receive disability benefits due to an early disability or ones due to aging. This includes the mentally and physically ill. Some people, like myself, are able to ignore the ignorant as they participate in name-calling, but many cannot do it and suffer humiliation as a consequence. Some even commit suicide. As Tyler Perry said, " It is not the name you are called, but how you respond to it." (paraphrased). If I am called a dog and starts barking viciously in response, then . . . . If anyone on government assistance is called "lazy," and he is lazy, then he has earned the name.

    Can you imagine how a truly needy person feels when he/she is forced in a category with lazy people and downgraded as misfit and lazy? That is a cruel thing to do to anyone.

    Yes, there are many lazy people who should not be getting government benefits, but whose fault is that? I like what you wrote:

    "...that’s why there needs to be better regulation of these social programs. Government employees need better management to make these programs more effective and efficient." Enough is said here, lrc7815.

    Thanks for writing and sharing this needed hub.

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    [ Danson Wachira ] 4 years ago from Nairobi, Kenya

    Hi Linda,

    I read all these five different stories and i couldn't stop wondering how governments can be so ignorant to care for its citizens. I wish and believe Tom, Frank, Alisha, Michael and Jennifer days will get better and although there are many cases like this in the world, hope and struggle is all what is left. Voted up and useful.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    Mary, my heart aches for your brother as I am in a similar situation. I was laid off in April 2012. I can't even get an interview because my resume (although impressive) screams "over 50". At a recent metting with the Unemployment Representative, I was advised to "dumb down" my resume and delete all of my work experience prior to 10 years ago. I spent 38 years working in health care. That IS my background and they are telling me to pretend it didn't happen in order to get an interview. It makes me livid.

    Thank you for telling it like it is. I wish your brother the best and am glad that he has your emotional support. That is so important.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    Mary615 - I apprecite your visit and your comment. I worked in a hospital for 38 years and walked away in 2009 because we were no longer caring for people but instead, were stealing from them. It broke my heart.

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    Mary Craig 4 years ago from New York

    After reading all the comments here Linda, its hard to add anything new so I'll just add my piece anyway. You and Bill are both right. I know from personal experience, my younger brother (56) has been out of work for over two years. He got laid off when his company 'downsized'. He's been everywhere, including McDonald's and can't get a job. Is that his fault? He lives with me now but gets assistance to pay for his car insurance, medical bills, etc. My husband and I are both retired so can't do much more for him. It stinks. We do what we can but sometimes its not enough and we (we as in the general public) need government assistance. On the other hand I know people who are getting disability, which pays more than enough to live on, while there is nothing wrong with them and I won't mention the generations of Welfare recipients!

    Stop this nonsense of not hiring someone over 30, stop this nonsense of not hiring someone who's been laid off, stop handing out disability like its candy....you know the drill.

    This was a great hub and I agree with everything you've said.

    Voted up, useful, awesome, and interesting. Shared as well.

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    Mary Hyatt 4 years ago from Florida

    Great Hub! I am reading the latest issue of Time magazine where they have devoted the entire issue to the problems of our health care system and the fees hospitals charge while making huge profits.

    We spend more in the US than other countries and get less for our money. I have two friends who just declared bankruptcy because of medical bills.

    Voted UP, etc. and will share.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    Shauna, I am fine. No worries. I always trust that things will be fine and they usually are. I share those numbers only out of humor because I really think HP is a joke when it comes to rewarding good writers. I stay here because I can express myself without too much scrutiny. I'm glad CrowdSource is working for you. I'd rathe starve than write SEO type articles. For me, it's almost worse than going to the dentist which I detest. lol

    Thanks for the encouragement sistah! Meet you in the bell tower at 0900.

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    Shauna L Bowling 4 years ago from Central Florida

    Linda, your day is just around the bend. Set your goals and they will come. I know they will because you are strong and determined.

    Congrats on your earnings from HP. I've been a member since October of 2011 and am only half way to earning the first payment of $50. I did enjoy a hubscore of 99 for 3 days in a row recently (it's down now) and I have no idea how that happened, but it certainly doesn't put money in my pocket!

    I'm writing for CrowdSource. I had to submit an original article (through a subsidiary of theirs called Write.com) and be approved before I could write for them. The whole approval process took about 2 weeks, but I'm making money. They pay $11 per 300 word article (you have thousands of topics and styles from which to choose) and a $50 bonus for every week you have 25 articles approved. Our dear friend Bill sent me the ad they posted in Craigslist back in January. I don't know if they are still looking for writers, but give it a shot. I've earned over $1,400 since the last week of January.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    Shauna, have no fear. I don't judge. In fact, I understand. I quit my job of 38 years in 2009. I was making $80 gramd a uear. O meeded a cjamge/ Tje economy crashed and I could not finf a job. I finally landed what I thought was a great job and was laid off in April 2012. I spent my savings while paying $650 a month for health insurance plus rent and utilities. It took me 7 months on HP to earn $50. lol I earned another $50 on Textbroker. Finally, I took on a project that is giving me a little income now but it is temporary. I have not applied for assistance - yet. The day may come though. I am selling my lifetime accumulation of stuff on ebay trying to hold the hounds at bay.

    Yes, ther are abusers and there are those who really need a little help. I would not want to be making the decision about who is really in need and who isn't.

    Congrats on your book. That is super exciting.

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    Sheri, what a sad state we are all in. Thank you for sharing your story. I hope many will read it and be put on notice that stealing cards from Canadians is wrong and will soon not be an option. I hope they will start holding our own government accountable for helping to provide care here in our own country. What a mess.

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    Shauna L Bowling 4 years ago from Central Florida

    Linda, there are certainly those who take advantage of the system, but not all fall in that category, as you say. I have a story to tell of my own and I'm not proud of it, but it is what it is; I did what I felt I needed to do.

    I quit my $900+/wk job in mid September of 2012 to pursue my freelance career. I was just fed up with the corporate crap and knew I'd never have a shot at my dream as long as I stayed in the trap. I cashed in my 401k and that's what I was living on. In October of 2012, I earned a grand total of $66.50 - for the entire month! I have a mortgage to pay, overhead and have opted to pay 3 of the credit cards that have balances. I've let 3 others go by the wayside. Shame on me, but hey!

    I applied for food stamps in October. I was granted $85/month until April of this year when I come up for review by the state. I swore I would NEVER rely on government help for anything, yet here I am.

    I'm pleased to say I will probably be denied come April. My freelance business has soared and I've published my first book as of February 25th. I've gotten a 100% return on my investment and am now operating at 100% profit in only two days since my book was published.

    My point is, sometimes we find ourselves in need. Fortunately, help is available. For those who abuse the system, I just want to scream.

    To the accusers of the world I have this to say: Don't judge a book by it's cover. You don't always know what's inside.

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    Sheri Dusseault 4 years ago from Chemainus. BC, Canada

    Your writing on this is beautiful. My heart goes out to those poor people. I am Canadian and we ALL have health care and I am so grateful for that. I have loads of american friends and have heard some heart breaking stories. One was a woman had brain cancer, had insurance and was treated and beat it. Five years later it came back and she was refused coverage. They were in their sixties, both worked hard thier whole life, but lost everything. She died and he is in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. We actually have a problem here in Canada that relates to your problem there. Desperate sick Americans are coming up and stealing our care cards (the cards we show to hospitals etc.) and getting cared for in our system. Not that I blame them, just think it is so very sad. Our government is actually coming our with new cards with pictures and all sorts of security to combat this. Anyway, great hub and all the best.

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    Margaret Perrottet 4 years ago from Pennsauken, NJ

    Sorry about that - I submitted the comment, and somehow it got cut off. I was trying to say that if you want a comprehensive rundown on who doesn't pay taxes, I did an article for Yahoo in 2011 breaking it down. It is mostly senior citizens, fairly low income families with children, or students who aren't paying any taxes. Here's the link:

    http://voices.yahoo.com/who-doesnt-pay-taxes-91212...

    Good hub, and you really do have to think about who some of these families might be before passing judgement. Voted up!

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    hi mperrottet! Was there more to your message? I'm interested.

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    Margaret Perrottet 4 years ago from Pennsauken, NJ

    If you want a pretty comprehensive rundown on wh

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    Linda Crist 4 years ago from Central Virginia

    Thank you Alecia. It's very easy to get caught in the trap of the big picture, isn't it? I learned from a receptionist at a physician's office today that her mother lives across the street from my elderly parents. She told me that every time my Dad goes for a walk (he has Alzheimer's) that her brothers follow him at a distance to make sure he makes it back home safe. Needless to say, I was moved to tears and so very grateful . It makes the world a better place.

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    Alecia Murphy 4 years ago from Wilmington, North Carolina

    I'm so glad I found this hub. Instead of focusing on how politics are dividing the nation, I love how you through the onus on us as a people. I wholeheartedly agree that everyone spends so much time on themselves instead of looking around at the problems our neighbors face. Thank you so much for sharing your perspective.

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    Oh Robwrite, I so agree with you. I'm starting to get very frustrated that Obama is being blamed for higher numbes seeking government assistance. Of course the numbers are rising. More are unemployed, more have lost their homes to failed banks, more have given up their private insurance to pay rent, yada yada yada. We, us, me, as a society, can and should help our families and neighbors but we can't carry the world. What would the numbers be if we took all the money that charities spend in third world countries and helped our own people. There, I've said it. lol

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    Rob 5 years ago from Bay Ridge Brooklyn NY

    Good points. I agree that generalizations are rarely a good thing. I think, overall, there needs to be more compassion in the world, especially by the high-up people like Romney, who seem to be severely lacking in it.

    Rob

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    Hi Wayne. Oh what a topic this is. There are so many things to consider. I wrote the hub primariyl because I was tired of arguing about Romney's intent. Honestly, I think he just got comfortable and didn't think about what he was saying. I still despise generalizing. :-)

    But you know, the solution is managing those government funds and we have to make a decision. Do we want government run programs or not? Are we, as a society, willing to let people die from exposure and starvation because we don't have the time or the tools to determine who is really worthy? Who decides who is worthy? If we, the people, aren't ready or willing to take it on, then government has too. So, do we opt for government run programs because we don't want to take responsibility for other human lives? That's one dilemma.

    The next one is, how to hold government accountable for "proper" management of social programs. I don't have a clue.

    I don't think either candidate, Obama or Romney is bad at the core. They just come from different sides of the track and personally, I don't trust that Romney has a clue about what's best for those that are genuinely between a rock and a hard place. I don't agree with all things Obama either though. I just know that something has to change and I'm not sure it's going to, no matter who wins. It may just turn a different color, shape, or texture and that worries me. Thanks for the great commentary!

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    Wayne Brown 5 years ago from Texas

    The shame of it all is where we have come to today. No doubt (and excuse me for generalizing here), we are a compassionate people and our hearts go out to those in need. Given that, we seem to be easy targets for those willing to throw their self-esteem aside and hide behind the face of those who really are in need to make their gains. I cannot tell you how many times I have been approached at a gas station for money to buy gas to go into a car that was many years newer than my own. Look at all the stories of people pretending to be homeless who, when exposed, claim to have made more than 50K a year panhandling....tax free. I am in no way saying that we do not need to help people who are truly in need, but we have to do something about those who are "gaming" the system. The temporary housing assistance program saturates some apartment complexes in my area. The government is picking up 90% of the rent tab. My wife manages property invests for a California investment group. One of the houses they own out there was rent under the section 8 clause to a single lady at $1500 per month. The government paid all but $100 of it which was "her responsibility". She was eventually evicted for failure to yet left driving a new car. As I see it, the folks who are truly getting hurt here are those who really do need the help....these other folks may as well be stealing from them. Out of it all, those who can make ends meet start to become very calloused when they witness this gaming of the system and watch some walk around with a new iPhone wearing high dollar tennis shoes yet buying groceries with a WIC card. Those seeking assistance since Obama took office has grown in leaps and bounds and the effort continues to grow those rolls. This was Romney's reference as he outlined his strategy to attract voters. He was basically saying that it was futile to attempt to attract votes away from Obama in that sector as the minds were already made up that Obama would give them more and Romney would not....whether true or not. So, he essentially said that his plan was to go after the undecided voter with his funds and his efforts. For me, that was the limits of his intent. Good hub! ~WB

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    Hello Imogen French! Thank you for visiting my hub and leaving such a thought-filled comment. I agree with you totally that our politicians forget who hired them. But then, is that our fault for not reminding them? Hmm, perhaps another hub in the making.

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    Imogen French 5 years ago from Southwest England

    It is the same the world over - here in the UK people have lost their jobs, lost their homes, been left holding the baby, been affected by ill health and so on, things that happen to them through no fault of their own, just for fat, arrogant politicians to imply that they are scrounging from the taxpayer's purse when asking for welfare payments. If our governments want us all to work, pay our taxes and contribute to our society ( as most of us would like to ) then they need to ensure there are enough jobs for us all, stop keeping us trapped by poverty, provide good healthcare and give us a decent society to live in. They seem to forget they are employed by us to run our country! Too many politicians are just full of rhetoric and statistics and have no understanding of real life down on the ground.

    I pray for you that Mitt Romney doesn't get elected - everything I hear about the man repels me! There should be more people like you and your friend Bill in the world, and we'd all be better off! Thanks for a thought provoking hub :)

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    Oh MizB- you are so eloquent. Tell us what you really mean. lol

    I am totally with you on this one. The more I thought about Bill's hub yesterday, the more this one haunted me. There is, an in most things, a balance to be achieved. But what the hell do we know about that in this country?

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    MizBejabbers 5 years ago

    Mitt Romney’s problem is that he was born with a silver foot in his mouth (like George Bush, thank you Ann Richards). Whatever he meant by that statement, he shouldn’t have said it until he thought it through.

    I read Bill Holland’s hub yesterday and I agree with him. I also agree with you. Both hubs have to be taken into context. I am Libran, so sometimes I want to pinch the heads off leaders of both parties.

    I have compassion for the truly needy like the examples you named in this hub, but I have no warm fuzzies for those who refuse to get an education, refuse to work, and burden the system. We have the misguided belief that we have to take care of them because we can’t let their children go hungry. A lot of these children go hungry anyway because our aid is misspent for things like drugs, alcohol, tobacco, big screen TVs, and IPhones.

    As far as the truly needy go, I think the rich should pitch in to help. Oh, I forgot, they do, and they can produce receipts from big ticket charities to prove it. When you study many of these organizations, you find that only 1% to 5% actually go to helping people. The rest of the donations go for big salaries, big buildings, and big advertising budgets. I would like to see them channel their money to local organizations and local storefront churches that are close to the people they serve. I say “local storefront churches” because we know where the mega churches put their money.

    Oh, by the way, that includes the Morman Church. A family member spent a year in that church and left. In addition to his tithe, he was actually expected to donate the living expenses for several months for two missionaries (a heck of a lot more than his tithe), but he couldn’t afford to donate one month. The bishop told him he would be “blessed”, that God would make up the money. The missionaries’ living expenses don’t all come from tithes of the membership but from extra donations from the members. I’m really glad to see that Mitt Romney can afford to support his church in the manner in which it has become accustomed.

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    Mhatter99 - I've seen that happen in every organization I've ever been involved in. It's very sad.

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    William Young - See, when rational minds come together, they can find common ground. You and I don't agree on everything but we can have a conversation without accusing each other of evil. You should run for public office. :-)

    You mention Elizabeth Warren's speech at the DNC. Again- I don't like generalizations. So, it's safe to say that I did not agree or support everything I heard from the DNC. There is misconception and misrepresentation on both sides. You bring up a good point though and it is what worries me about Romney. Like George Bush Jr, he doesn't say what he means, much of the time. I think he is a poor orator and can inflame without meaning to. I worry about that on the international relations stage. Great dialogue though and I appreciate your viewpoint and that you took time to read and comment on my little rant.

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    Hello peanutmaster! Thanks for reading and commenting. My best wishes for your family.

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    Martin Kloess 5 years ago from San Francisco

    Here is a story: I am a Freemason. We have a big dinner (300+) once a month. I joined 1990. We used to cook, serve, and clean up after ourselves, But over time we became spoiled, complacent and out of touch. As this was happening, "doers" (for better or worse) took control. When the membership woke up they were less important than the "doers" and became turned off.

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    William Young 5 years ago from Eaglle Grove, Iowa

    Irc7815,

    You state your case beautifully, and I should point out that I have absolutely no problem with my tax dollars being spent to help people who are in need. I don't want anyone going hungry in this country. While I agree with the spirit of what Mitt Romney said, he could have probably found a better way to frame his wording, I'll grant you that. I'm not going to sit here and say that he was taken out of context and all that jazz, because I get so tired of hearing politicians on both sides of the aisle use that excuse. But I will say this. I don't think Mitt Romney was trying to imply that half of all Americans are freeloaders. I think he was trying to make the point that ever increasing dependency on government for assistance is not the sign of a economically strong nation. There are certainly millions of people out there who need government assistance, food assistance, unemployment assistance, and like I said, I certainly am fine with my tax dollars being spent to help those people during that period that they NEED help. But wouldn't that be a great day in our country when we reach a point that no one needs government welfare.

    As for the idea that Romney is dividing the country, there is no question that on it's face the "47 percenter" comment could be construed as divisive. But for the Obama campaign to run a campaign ad accusing Romney of trying to divide the country into classes is laughable. Barack Obama and the Democrats are the KINGS of playing the class warfare divisiveness card. I would encourage you to listen to Elizabeth Warren's speech again at the DNC Convention and tell me she's not pitting one class of people against another. That was ALL her speech was about from start to finish---It's us against all those evil rich people out there---that was her whole speech. That's not leadership. That's not what the greatness of America is about. That's pandering of the highest order. ---Anyway, I greatly enjoyed reading your hub and my heart and prayers go out to all of those people whom you talked about!

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    peanutroaster 5 years ago from New England

    My parents retired in Florida are part of Romney's 47%. They don't feel like victims and they certainly don't feel like moochers. They spend money and pay sales tax. But they don't pay Federal tax.

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    Bill - we is partners! lol

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    Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

    I think you beautifully got your point across, Linda, and thank you so much for your kind words. You are absolutely correct; there are not enough individuals right now to make a difference when dealing with a problem of this magnitude. That's why we have to keep pounding this point home. :) I'll do my part and I have no doubt that you will do yours. Excellent hub!

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    Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

    Thanks Millionaire! Sorta got on my high-horse didn't I? Yikes, it's been a day. :-)

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    Shasta Matova 5 years ago from USA

    While categorizing people sure is easy, it does tend to lead to incorrect assumptions. Yes, there is fraud and greed and a sense of entitlement in the poor, but so is there fraud and greed and a sense of entitlement in the rich. You've brought up very important points here. Voted up.