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Why marijuana shouldn't be legalized

Updated on January 4, 2010

Marijuana shouldn't be legalized...

I notice that many people agree with legalization of marijuana, yet only a handful of people have a correct understanding of the drug and the effects. Take it from an ex full time stoner, and a friend of many other full time stoner's.

To clarify what makes a 'full time stoner', is waking and baking, going to work stoned, smoking during the day, and going to bed stoned. So basically, your high most of the time, about 60-80% of the time. I spent five years doing this, my partner spent ten years doing it, and if we could take it back, we would.

Smoking weed is not considered by the full-time stoner as taking drugs, it is a relationship.

Most people will be aware that one of the effects of smoking weed is short-term memory loss: In the beginning of smoking weed regularly, one will find that they might forget what they were saying halfway through a statement, forget where they put things, and forget what they were watching on T.V less than 20 seconds ago. Little things like that, but over the years of continued pot smoking, one can expect their past to all become a bit hazy.

To impose this memory loss due to smoking pot, can become very harmful to ones self, as the fragments of their past and themselves, are forgotten.

To say that an effect of marijuana is short-term memory loss, is actually very misleading. Because this short-term memory loss, leads to continual memory loss if you smoke daily, which gradually results in an individuals inability to make rational decisions. This is because you will become very unsure of yourself, and your own ideas, if you are always changing them, due to forgetfulness.

A lot of stoner's, contradict themselves and change their minds very often. My partner for example, he's 24 years old, he's been a builder, a fisherman, a computer techi, a real estate agent, a truck driver, labourer, fruit picker and more..Where did any of these things get him??? NOWHERE. Because he's constantly doubting himself, and changing his mind, because he has forgotten the part of him who knows what he wants.

Often the full-time stoner in employment creates a vicious cycle for themselves,with their flighty attitudes. This vicious cycle will either be, attain employment, leave or get fired for not turning up often enough, get another job, or get unemployment benefit, and then the same thing will happen again. Few stoners will be capable of actual careers.

Unlike other drugs, you are in control of your actions when you smoke weed, but you are not in control of your train of thought.

Getting high, causes the brain to conger up all kinds of ideas, that you would not have thought of if you were straight. A lot of stoners have some brilliant ideas, but 99% of the time, these ideas do not get put into action because marijuana robs you of motivation and energy.

If there's one thing that all stoners have it common, it's an 'I'll do it tomorrow' attitude. They say 'I'll do it tomorrow' often, but tomorrow doesn't come for the full time stoner, they are trapped in fantasy world.

It's so sad, the amount of people who smoke weed, whom cut themselves off from people they love and care for, because they simply don't have the motivation to even be bothered talking half the time.

Smoking weed is indulgent, which leads to other over indulgences. Generally in the form of food or alcohol. Food tastes better when your high, many a time have i made gone for late night missions to Maccas! Luckily i have a fantastic metabolism, so i didn't really ever put on weight due to the munchies, but i know many people whom have.

Also because of this over indulgence, most people whom smoke weed will live paycheck to pay check. They tend to live beyond their budget, due to their over indulgences and unrealistic views.

Unrealistic views are mainly about not having an understanding of the importance of certain aspects of ones life. For example, living pay check to pay check, the stoner doe's not respect money, or having an understanding of the importance of it. The stoner wants money to get things they want, without realizing that you NEED money to survive, and you NEED to save money, to secure your future...Responsibility...what's that?

You've probably seen in movies when people get high, their laughing and having a good time. Although that reaction is common with marijuana, don't be fooled, it doesn't make one happy. It makes one numb. Any concerns a stoner may have, are irrelevant once they get high, but problems don't just disappear. The stoner suppresses emotions, and when they don't have a next a hit, these suppressed emotions can come down on them like a ton of bricks, causing depression. So they keep smoking to numb, as they often can't handle realistic human emotions when they are straight.

So if smoking pot was the social norm, i believe there would be a higher rate of unemployment, more people on the streets, more businesses going bust, more people that are hurt by the stoner's laziness, and more people with chronic depression!


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      Henny 3 years ago

      Slam dunkin like Shaquille O'Neal, if he wrote inivamrtfoe articles.

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      trichromium 3 years ago

      I agree with some things you say is can relate but disagree with most of what you say. Its misinfo like this that helps drive the war on drugs..

      Saying growers steal power is a lie , some illegal grows circumvent meters to avoid detection is using too much power. But not only would they not have this issue if they chose to grow legally or it became legal in their area.

      I think also ur bf is lazy and indecisive and possibly also young... Lots of people go thru a lot of jobs

      Anyways the for sharing


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      trichromium 3 years ago

      I agree with some things you say is can relate but disagree with most of what you say. Its misinfo like this that helps drive the war on drugs..

      Saying growers steal power is a lie , some illegal grows circumvent meters to avoid detection is using too much power. But not only would they not have this issue if they chose to grow legally or it became legal

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      Perseus 4 years ago

      I have to commend you for writing this article. It really opened my eyes I swear as if you were quoting my exact experiences. This article has really helped me kick the habit and I've been clean for 6 days with many more to come

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      skinsman82000 4 years ago from Frederick Maryland

      Linda is exhibit A that you shouldn't smoke crack...

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      Linda 4 years ago

      Marijuana Is stupid it is really dumb like who tf wants todo that to thee bdy and ther brain because more than likely if you do mrijuan you do hter drugs

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      TangerineSky247 5 years ago

      Here we go again. The never ending debate on marijuana legalization vs. continued federal prohibition. I'm for legalization because I fail to see any logic in the reasons given for prohibition. If the gateway argument is valid then why are nocotine and alcohol still legal? Can anyone logically argue that those two substances are not significant gateway drugs? If the possible negative effects of long term marijuana use are the problem then why aren't the "annointed ones" concerned about the proven long term effects of many legal prescribed drugs that are often prescribed to treat the same or similar ailments? If it's recreational use of cannabis they are concerned about, what about recreational use of many prescription drugs? A lot of people seem to be still missing the boat on this issue. It boils down to money and their inability to completely control the manufacturing of cannabis, which goes back to money again. They don't want people being able to manufacture their medicine or feel good substance in a small closet. That's a huge threat to established interests. The pharmaceutical industry, the alcohol industry, the tobacco industry and the prison industry all heavily support, fund and lobby the continued prohibition of cannabis because its legalization would negatively impact their profits/funding. It's a very complex web of entrenched business/money/power interests ensuring that cannabis stays illegal. These powerful interest groups have perpetuated many clever myths about cannabis to the naïve public, influencing public opinion toward continued prohibition. All their arguments about morality, safety, possible long term harm and etc. are just a smoke screen. Pun intended :-)

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      ANON 5 years ago

      1. How is anybody supposed to take you seriously when you make so many grammatical errors?

      2. That's your experience with it, and only your experience. It does not apply to everybody. Hell, all my friends smoke, and they are all making good grades as engineers in college.

      3. You being lazy and forgetful is just all a projection of you. The weed just intensifies it. You would be lazy and forgetful without it. Like I said, everyone I know that smokes is super hard-working and gets their shit done. Oh, and also, I have LOTS of good memories from being high. It's really not hard to forget if it really means something to you.

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      Carlotta 5 years ago

      I have been a "stoner" as you call it for a long time I'm 33 and have never had an ill effect from weed. I graduated top of my class in Nursing school I have a healthy career. I have no problems with my memory at all, and I am very active in life. I've had jobs were I have had to quit and found no real problem stopping. I have many "stoner" friends and family that are equally as brilliant as any other people I encounter in my day to day. I find people that have a healthy relationship with weed to be less stressed, healthier and way less drama in their lives. As all things in life moderation is key. I think smoking weed is not a great thing for the lungs but in this day and age there are many ways to "use" marijuana. I believe it should be legaleized for all the amazing things hemp can provide for our country.

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      Roman 5 years ago

      I'm in a way glad marijuana isn't legal. If it were legal with me being 18, I would have a much harder time getting it. It would only be available in stores that check ID instead of from my dealer friends. Oh yeah and @ninja368, if marijuana was regulated like alcohol, like all the acts attempting to legalize it are trying to do, public consumption wouldn't be allowed so that way kids wouldn't get high walking down the street. Dumbass.

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      ninja368 6 years ago

      Two words why is should not be legalized (and this isn't going into the failed Netherlands experiment and all the other issues): contact high. Cigarette smoke when inhaled is harmful, but usually only if you're huffing it. One whiff of pot smoke can get you high. If they legalize what will happen? you'll get every stoner on earth lighting up around stores and walking down the street. Not only is this a bad influence on kids (would you want your five your old seeing some guy doing an illegal substance in plain sight?) but they'll be blowing their smoke in people's faces both intentionally and unintentionally. This is a violation of someones right to be sober and once again what about kids? What if some 5 year old happens to walk through a cloud, breaths a bit in and gets high? Nope. Sorry. It needs to stay illegal.

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      goroniac 6 years ago

      This is a good opportunity that "whom" is used in the sense of a direct object, or in conjunction with a pronoun as an indirect object. For example:

      "The man whom I met in the subway is Amish."

      This phrase uses "whom" in the correct context. The phrase itself is a paradox. Furthermore:

      "The young lady, with whom I was speaking, is of the opinion that pepperjack cheese is the best variety of American cheese."

      This is also a valid context for "whom." This is a fragile topic for a grammar guru. I oughta start a damn Youtube Channel. :p

      BTW I smoke week frequently--It's the gateway to POSSIBILITIES. It's up to us as the pot-smoking demographic to define how ganja is used and what doors it opens, AS OPPOSED to those who are prone to abusing the drug, and write extreme articles such as this. You act out of fear because your own sense of temperance is off-kilter. Moderation is key. ;)

      Be Well.

      One Love.

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      Ole 6 years ago

      So marijuana shouldn't be legalized, but alcohol should stay legal? I think its worse beeing drunk 80-60% of the time than high.

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      NickS 6 years ago

      I don't want to be a pain in the ass but, everything you're posting, Marcel, is totally anecdotal. You're spouting misinformation based on unscientific interviews with a select few people.

      For starters, not everyone who uses marijuana loses control of their funds. Other than a couple breaks, I've been smoking on a daily basis for the past 6-8 months. I'm not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to this, but I do know for a fact that my spending habits have not changed. I spend while keeping enough money for me to put towards bills and legal activities such as dinner with friends. Only those who don't plan for their financial future end up without jobs or money, and they would more than likely be throwing it away even if they never experienced marijuana.

      Secondly, don't contradict yourself on addiction. An addiction is all based in the brain, whether it's physical or mental. If you haven't noticed, everything you feel, everything you see, and everything you do is controlled by your brain (oh my god, we're being mind controlled by our brains!). Without it, we would be unable to move or function in the least, unless placed upon a life support machine, where the body remains alive even if the mind no longer exists. The only reason a physical addiction is so difficult is because it's a much stronger addiction that may cause the brain to affect other parts of the body if you're lacking the substance.

      Note, I do not know everything on this subject perfectly but am a Psychology major, with my current class being Cognitive Psych. Please remember that correlation is not causation, and that no two people experience an event or chemical the same way, therefore, two people will never do or feel the exact same things while under the influence. Review your content before responding, please.

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      DavidECU 6 years ago

      Even though i haven't been smoking for 5 years this heavily i have been for about a year and do no feel anything you described that intensely...i smoke multiple times a day and experience the same level of motivation i have towards school that i had before i started hell i even say its better now just that im older.....Though i agree i do forgot things a lot and misplace things but i still no myself and what i want.....I am overweight but still i am very active and marijuana hasn't stopped me at all i smoked then do a class of Taekwondo then right after an exercise class and i have only seen an increase in my athletic ability still smoking a lot. stating that you think it should still be illegal totally surprises me knowing you used to smoke the same amount has me cant use see how Hippocratic and how unconstitutional many marijuana laws are?????

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      skinsman82000 6 years ago from Frederick Maryland

      Good article even though I don't necessarily agree with your message. I strongly believe that most not functioning well on marijuana wouldn't be functioning well with or without it. But I also know that it can affect some differently than others, so they shouldn't do it. Some people can't have caffeine, smoke cigarettes, or drink doesn't mean that no one else should be allowed to do it either. We should have the freedom as people and have the choice to figure that out for ourselves...and I don't even smoke pot, ha.

      Again, not flaming here. It was a well-written article, and I'm now following you.

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      imarijuana 6 years ago

      You over consumed why didn't you just wait to smoke a j a day why all day everyday that's your fault!

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      lovable people 6 years ago

      its clear to me that if people don't abuse the drug then there should be no problem with it being legalized , if someone causes it to them self to have to smoke it every single day its there own problem as with other drugs , it should be legalized to bring in more money, and it would make people smarten up because now no one would/could sell pot really if it was sold legally

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      geordmc 6 years ago from Beliot, Wisconsin

      Obviously many people still do not understand the benefits of the plant itself. I have stated in other hubs that the plant has over 22,000 uses. If you want the economy to flourish it needs to be legal, period. With industries ranging from food production to biodegradable plastics to the auto industry this plant can furnish jobs to hundreds of thousands of people who are willing and looking to work.

      The country is looking to expand its tax base this is a good way to do that.

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      Steph 6 years ago

      fo me it doesn't matter anymore if weed will be legalized or not. Those people who like to buy it, will always find ways to find marijuana wether its in the streets, coffeeshop, garden, indoorplants etc...Thankfully i stoped smoking weed some month ago, here is my complete story

      So don't try to stop smoking weed without any help or advice from neutral persons. Tanks

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      geordmc 6 years ago from Beliot, Wisconsin

      I am 56 yrs. old and have been a daily user for over forty years and there is nothing wrong with my memory, short or long term. I have always out performed others in what ever field I worked in.Only on weekends do I 'Wake & Bake" but I find that my thoughts are clear and concise. However, Others might not have the same reaction that I have had. Too bad for you, Ha Ha.

      Now onto why it should be made legal, Did you know that pot seeds have the highest nutritional value than any other seeds or nuts? This means that pot can literally feed hungry people around the world with out harm.Small minded people that think it should be illegal just don't know all the facts and are afraid to see they're wrong.

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      Chris  6 years ago

      Increase of use would occour but only shortly, once the Hubb a bubba of weed marijuana being legalized use would drop dramatically, more so than # of people using it today while its illegal. Look at other western nations that have legalized pot, why are we so different were both western cultures nothing would be different its human nature. Once the "its cool to do thing" passes use would drop.

      Cigarettes use to be cool too but once strictly regulated use among teens DRAMATICALLY dropped.

      It should be a choice for adults to make, this shouldn't be a nanny nation.

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      caitlin 6 years ago

      You may be right in what your saying, but smoking weed effects everyone differently. You should have noticed that? I've smoked weed for just shy of two years, and yes, my memories a little hazy. But I've learned to deal with things differently, been more creative, learned things, and also forgotten things that were messing me up inside.

      So maybe your opinion is valid, but it's no place to say that it should be kept illegal. Because it only effects a small amount of people the way it effected you, everyone I know that smokes, is perfectly fine. + that's quite a lot of people.

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      Chontey 7 years ago

      This really helped me with my homework at school, I'm 13 and i want smoking cannabis to carry on being illegal.Most of my friends want it to be legal as they think they will get a better marks.They also said it would be pointless reading this but it was inspirational and i want cannabis to be illegal!!


      P.S: i will notify you's when i get my result :)

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      Midianite 7 years ago from Australia

      @ marcel285

      Up until recently I was in the exact same position as you (toking allll day), all of the points you made here are valid and gave me a totally different outlook on smoking.

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      CJamesIII 7 years ago from Minneapolis, MN

      I appreciate your candor and your journey. But I feel that your experience might be in the minority. I have smoked on and off for years, I was a bona fide "stoner" in college, but my experience is the exact opposite of yours. I was depressed near the end of high school and in college, it was a clinical depression, nothing to do with any substance (was not yet using regularly) and my doctor actually told me he thought the weed was actually helping to motivate me. Since then, I graduated college with a high GPA and no problems. I was a professional actor for many years and never had a problem, always got the job (I was a very lucky actor, but I worked hard) and I have published two books of poetry and have a novel on the way. A study in the 1990's stated that people who smoke marijuana outperform their peers at work by more than 30% (yes, in part to pay for the habit) but nonetheless outperform. I have outperformed my peers at every retail job I have ever had. The bottom line is that it would be great financially for our country (as the California resident pointed out) and in 10,000 years of usage, not ONE single person has ever died from using marijuana. Any deaths noted automatically have an extra element like alcohol or a disease. Let's not even get started about how prescription drugs have nasty side effects, and how they can screw you up! I hope we come out of the dark ages soon.

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      Isaak  7 years ago

      I am all for legalization i am only fifteen but have been smoking since i was 11. I am actively motivated, maintain a 3.6 GPA and am high 16 hours of every day 365 days a year. Pot can be abused based on the user ive seen it contribute to ruining peoples lives not because its harmful or wrong but b/c they need a substance to abuse and pot was the one they chose. Yes all of you have valid points for why it should be legal and illegal it can take away motivation and realistic views but so can star wars or yoga anything in this world can be turned to heroin. My brother who is 25 has never smoked never been drunk and rarely has sex but is in love with japaneese cartoons and video games he works at a grocery store and lives with his friends parents, does not go to college and does not have a car but he is happy and its not my place to tell him or anyone else how to live there life but should video games be illegal because he as one individual let it control his life my opinion is no. Theres the personal defense i use for pot smokers and legalization. Now toward the economical side of it our economy is in the shitter right now and i believe marijuana's legalization is the answer it would create a wide range of jobs from growers to dispensers to restaruants and so on. California since medical legaliation has generated over 80,000 jobs relating to marijuana and its dispensing and if taxed it could have generated 12 billion dollars in 2009 now call me crazy but that's some big tax help for our government. That's my two cents PEACE!

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      greenies 7 years ago

      yall need to smoke some bud

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      DefyingGravity 7 years ago

      I like your post. I think its helpful for people to hear the truth from someone that has been in their shoes. I agree weed should be illegal. People who smoke weed frequently are not motivated and lazy just like you said and in that state what are they doing to contribute to society? We have enough idiots in the world without having to deal with potheads. And to the person who said if tobacco and cigarettes aren't illegal why should weed be? My answer to that is then why don't we legalize meth, coke, hell even murder? Because its STUPID and UNNECESSARY!!!

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      hot dorkage 7 years ago from Oregon, USA

      You are focusing on the effects of abusing MJ. and I've seen the phenonemenon you describe. It seems to me the younger the user the more likely they are to be a full time stoner. Yes it can bake the life out of you. But I disagree that it should remain illegal. I agree w/ Chris Geo, legalize and regulate it then we won't have that cut stuff and we will have some quality control and we can put a stop to the illegal drug trade.

      I made a personal decision to boycott rec drugs unless I knew everyone in the supply chain personally, because I did not want to contribute in any way to the horrible violent illegal drug trade.

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      thom 7 years ago

      justed noted that you don't live in America, but the point was made for the current issue in my country :)

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      thom 7 years ago

      responding to marcel285: "I don't think that everyone should quit, did i say that?"

      Yes, when you have a post entitled "Why marijuana shouldn't be legalized", it means you want to take it away from everyone, you want to remove other peoples access to PERSONAL LIBERTY. This is America, we should be able to do what we want as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights and personal liberties of others.

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      Tina 7 years ago

      Marcel you make a lot of valid points. I have shown this to the people that have bashed me for being against prop 19 in California. You hold my sentiments exactly. Thank you for this article.

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      Smoke weed :-) 7 years ago

      Interesting article although what happened to you is not always going to happen to someone else.

      You talked about MJ affecting your boyfriends employment when there could very well have been other factors involved.

      I for one am a 32 yr old father, have worked for the last 10 years in a good IT job. Own three cars and a house.

      I smoke daily every day after work never at work! Its something I do to wind down from a days working and helps me to relax.

      Someone else commented that moderation is the key to life - for me to have a joint after work is moderate enough for me to relax and chill out without effecting my everyday life.

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      aubrey 7 years ago

      This is very true in many ways,however, this is only on a basis of a continual smoker. It's like an alcoholic with alcohol. There will always be someone who abuses the freedom their given, that is unstoppable. There are many people who endulge occasionally and are fine in society and several powerful people smoked or smoke marijuana occassionally and if thecreative ideas thought of during the time of consumption are remembered, which usually is possible with occassional use, then many things can be done with that bextreme amount of creativity. I will admit that overindulgance can make you numb, but a nonfrequent use of marijuana is like nothing but social drinking and is nothing but something to loosen you up for say a party or something. Only a dependence on marijuana is as bad as you portray it to be.

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      tony0724 7 years ago from san diego calif

      Marcel that was a very Intelligent little hub.Aside from all the factors you mentioned I would like to add one for the guys. I read a scientific journal a year or so ago that stated that men who chronically smoked MJ were found to be more succeptible to testicular cancer. That I would hope would make any man wanna put it down.

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      Susan Reid 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

      I just stumbled upon your hub and am glad I did! You point out some very, very valuable points about the effects of chronic marijuana use. Many people will argue that it's ok because it's "natural" or "isn't addicting." It IS addicting. I've met many, many addicts/alcoholics whose drug of choice was weed (usually in combination with something else like booze).

      I livein CA and it looks like the state is on the verge of voting to make weed legal. We already have pot dispensaries everywhere. Weed basically already IS legal because so many people have medical marijuana cards. They use their cards to buy weed -- all perfectly legal -- and then sell it or give it to others. The problem is this weed is extremely potent. The weed of today is NOTHING like what the stoners of my generation smoked back in the day.

      I'm glad you have figured out a better way to live.

      God bless! MM

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      henry 7 years ago

      I couldn't stop smoking marijuana after trying to quit. Smoking weed was something I did every single day until it got the best of me and messed up a lot of areas of my life that I now realize were very important... Look, weed sucks bad ok... It feels good the first couple of times then turns on you like an enemy you thought was a friend. Just read this story and you'll know what I mean...

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      chris geo 8 years ago

      It's simple. Legalize it and you take away the black market which breeds violence. Keep it illegal and you spend BILLIONS of tax payer dollars trying to stop something that grows naturally throughout the United States anyway!

      And I happen to prefer the more potent strands! Why would I want to smoke an entire joint when I can smoke two puffs and get a nice effect? Although the carcinogenic properties are already low, smoking two hits vs. a joint or even vaporizing it is HIGHLY preferred. Less smoke= less carcinogens. It's simple.

      Did you know Marijuana was made illegal by someone who testified that it makes white women seek out relationships with black men?? That was one of the driving factors behind making it illegal! Have we not evolved beyond that yet??

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Lynda Gray, Fair enough to have your opinion that i am wrong, but hey everyone has their opinions about this issue...How much do you know about actually growing weed? No offense, but i think if you knew more about marijuana and actual production of it, that you would not say that 'dealers' and 'addictive chemicals' to it..It is mentally addictive, but that is not the same as a physical addiction, like being addicted to tobacco.

      Legalization, i don't think it has much to do with medicinal use, because that is another story. It is legal for medicinal use in a lot of places, and yeah it is good.

      I think that if you had had years of first hand experience with marijuana, then you would realize that what i have said about it, is factual information. Read some of the other comments, there are plenty of people who know all about the effects of abusing marijuana..

      At the end of the day, marijuana is just as much a drug as LSD is. They both do exactly the same thing, alter ones state of mind. Do you think we should legalize that too?

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      Lynda Gary 8 years ago

      Please be careful when you put yourself out there on a topic. You have an obligation to provide accurate factual information, if you're going to venture in that direction.

      For example, you said that marijuana does not contain addictive properties. WRONG! While the natural cannabis plant, alone, is not addictive, the dealers of the drug ADD addictive chemicals to it. If it were LEGAL, we could regulate the industry such that it was much more safe and so that those in need of this medication can safely obtain and use it.

      Please see my article: which includes a comprehensive list of ALL of the known diseases and symptoms that are helped by cannabis.

      To say something should not be legalized because there are some people who abuse and misuse the product is unreasonable. If that were the case, we'd need to criminalize sex, alcohol, computers, food ... You get the point.

      The medicinal benefits of this natural herb far outweigh the arguments you've made. Just ask any cancer patient or other terminally ill patient whose quality of life drastically improves when they use cannabis therapy.

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      Tony McGregor 8 years ago from South Africa

      I'm no expert on this and am also not a user. However I think it should be legalised. If tobacco cigarettes are legal tghen marijuana should be also. I think strict controls on public use of both of these drugs are appropriate - I would hate to sit having a meal in a restaurant and have to smell the smoke of either weed. I just don't like it and it seems an invasion of my space.

      But the other side of this story is that because it is illegal in so many places it acquires a kind of special aura of daring and exoticism which make it attractive (which the tobacco companies have to spend fortunes on creating through advertising!) and it places the growing and supplying of it in the hands of often unsrcupulous drug dealers who use it to ensnare young people (again the tobacco companies have to spend fortunes on advertising to achieve the same thing) and then to lead them on to harder drugs.

      Growing marijuana is relatively easy and so users coulod produce their own if it were legal and they would then not be prey to the peddlars.

      Also in some cultures the use of marijuana is a cultural thing and so the people are made criminal for practicing their centuries-old culture. Not really a great thing.

      So I think a legalised but strictly controlled use is the best way forward and might indeed reduce drug abuse.

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

      Love and peace


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      thisisoli 8 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!)

      I am an occasional smoker, although not for a year now (need to be careful getting in to the US) I think that like anything marjuana is fine if used in moderation. If you become a full time stoner though you will start to suffer from side effects, just like you would if you were to stay drunk for 80% of the day every day.

      Moderation in life is key to health, the body can handle a lot, but if you overdo anything it can be harmful!

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Thanks for reading and commenting Ideamorphist. I find that for everything that can be said about pot, a fair debate can be had.

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      IdeaMorphist 8 years ago from Chicagoland

      I'm not of the same opinion as you as not only do I know some very responsible and successful "daily stoners" but also one family friend who greatly needs it for a lifelong disease, Multiple Sclerosis. It is the ONLY thing that can stop him from shaking.

      I personally believe that this drug affects each user on a different level, and if it is not for someone they will know it. On the other hand there are some people who would not function the same without it. Call it an addiction, medication or just plain ritual. In fact, you may be surprised how many well educated and high funtioning people of the world are stoners, but just afraid to admit it because of the legal recourse.

      I am thankful that you shared your opinion so I can understand more of the "other side" of the view. I think it really does go back to an idea of democracy. If you don't support it that is fantastic, but please don't fight against the people who are benefitting from it.

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      Moulik Mistry 8 years ago from Burdwan, West Bengal, India

      Great thoughts, I do quite agree with you...

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Red- You make a good point. In the grand scale of things,because marijuana is a lesser drug than others, and doesn't do as much damage as others, the legalizing issue can be seen in the light of: 'What's the big deal? Also you could be right about the third world countries. Although, because it is only a C class drug, and the effects are minute compared to most other drugs, the effects of abusing marijuana are still very real, and i'm not sure that the grand scale of things really justifies it at the end of the day. Reason being that, if marijuana were legalized, the coke heads are still going to be coke heads, the heroin addicts are still going to be addicts. Legalizing marijuana isn't likely to make the A class drug addicts opt for weed instead, because of this reason, i don't believe that it's justified to legalize in comparison to effects and other drugs.

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      Sharif Selassie 8 years ago

      I think the thing that is not being talked about is the fact that marijuana in the grand scheme of things is the lesser drug--y not legalize it--we have cigarettes that kill people everyday and liquor that kills everyday--So y not marijuana which doesn't kill anything but a couple of brain cells and a little drive--The other legalized drugs crush way more than that--I personally believe the only reason for not legalizing it is to freeze out the 3rd world nations who would profit from it being legalized--What do u think?

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      cheaptrick 8 years ago from the bridge of sighs

      My business partner and I own several employee intensive projects that provide jobs for many people.We develop alternative Businesses such as Legal indoor farming in abandoned buildings we purchase.I have Fired people who come to work stoned,that is irresponsible and we do not tolerate it.I work with Felony convicted teens in my spare time as well.I've seen first hand the damage addiction does in peoples lives regardless of the substance they choose to abuse.I am well educated,pay Lots of taxes,work with folks who have difficult lives,and try to be a responsible citizen.

      And I've been smoking Weed for forty years...

      Your passion is admirable,Keep searching and one day you will find yourself...


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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Damn right Richie, it's all good if you don't have any social responsibilities, which most of us do.

      People whom claim it doesn't effect them in negative ways, are not being honest with themselves as far as i can see of the people whom i know, who smoke.

      If it was all fine and dandy, then it would never have been criminalized to begin with.

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      Richieb799 8 years ago from Cardiff, Wales UK

      I agree with a lot of what you say here, because this is what happened to me, but I haven't smoked it for about 4 years and I quit smoking, smoking was the hardest.. But what I always say is that its ok if your Bob Marley(I love bob) or a great musician who jams all day on an island, but its so hard to maintain in the fast pace of today's society if your smoking it, that's the hard facts.. some people may be able to have it occasionally, but I know people who claimed that and then went onto have a problem..good hub!

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Well yes. This hub focuses on the abuse of marijuana, not casual consumption, nor the benefits of medicinal use.

      That's not to say that it doesn't have benefits, it most certainly does.

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      AnywhereGardener 8 years ago

      Well if you use it in moderation and for pain release and relaxation wouldn't that work? It is when you constantly smoke and become a "stoner" that the problems developed correct?

      I agree with IzzyM that young people while their brains are still developing could be damaged by this so over 21 only.

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Izzy M, Quoted by you : if it were legalised, youngsters should be told in no uncertain terms why they can't have it.

      One of my main points exactly.

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Tina, i agree that it is suitable and good for medicinal use, and it is fine for older people usually. I'm not sure that it's a gateway drug though. I don't know anyone whom smokes that pot has lead them to taking other drugs. But most of the people whom i know smoke it, the amount they smoke has increased as time goes on.

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      TINA V 8 years ago

      Marijuana can be useful to people with asthma because it can help them with their breathing problems. However, I agree with you that this should not be legalized. I also agree with IzzyM that those who are 25 years of age should not touch these stuff. It can affect their brain development. It can also tempt them to try other drugs.

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      IzzyM 8 years ago from UK

      Excellent hub, Marcel:)

      I personally don't think anyone under 25 should touch this stuff,because their brains are still developing. You have highlighted the dangers.

      I've taken weed, but to me its not a social drug when I couldn't remember what I was saying half way through a sentence! I could never get fond of it, but I know plenty of people who are, but the only ones who seem to have a real problem with it are the young, like yourself and your partner. I agree with you it shouldn't be legalised, or if it were legalised, youngsters should be told in no uncertain terms why they can't have it.

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Well i agree with you Kirrsten, better education about it would be helpful! But like any answer for weed, an argument can be had there. If teenagers were educated about weed in high school, i think that may influence some otherwise wouldn't be smokers, to smoke it.

      Some people can handle weed, and it can destroy the personality of another. So i don't think that weed should be encouraged, education in schools could well encourages people..I had a few stoner teachers in high school, particuarly MR. Tree. That's what people called him, coz he was always baked. If he had half the chance to educate about it, i'd imagine he would encourage students to smoke pot, and if they did, some students would wag school. That's inevitable.

      The worst thing that i got from weed, although i got over it after several years of smoking, is anxiety. It caused me to become quite scared of people, i'd freak out in the supermarket, when before i ever smoked it, i was a fairly confident person.

      I see pot smoking as a relationship, rather than taking drugs. It takes time to understand one another, like any relationship. So to overcome the paranoia that many people experience, it takes time. And in the time that it takes, you lose a bit of whom you used to be, and become someone whom you don't like, because it's not you.

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      kirstenblog 8 years ago from London UK

      This is going to be a controversial hub! I agree on some points and disagree on others. I agree that there are some real and serious risks for someone who chooses to smoke weed. An underlying and dormant mental illness can be triggered, especially with some of the strong stuff that is going around these days. My real mom and adopted mom both smoked back in the '60's and what we got today is MUCH stronger! I do think that this is most likely because governments do not have any control over it, criminals do.

      I like you spent many years smokin morning to night. My first time I remember well, this girl Starla smoked with me the first time and I thought the police would start circling lol. I didn't actually get any effect that time but I the next day. For me I had felt lied to by the schools and media, I did not have a bad experience, did not hallucinate or any of the other bad things I had been told would happen. I thought if they lied to me about this then what else have they lied to me about? The gateway that they talk about, this was it, I had broken the law and the only bad thing that happened was that I lost all trust in those who had educated me that its effects were like some combination of LSD and heroin. I never tried heroin, thankfully, but I did in the end try just about everything else I could get my hands on :/. This is I believe one of the dangers of just banning the stuff instead of honestly educating people and letting them make their own decisions. Another danger I see is with the stuff that's laced. I have had PCP and goodness knows what else in weed that I smoked, it gave me the runs! Eeek! When criminals control this stuff that is the risk, something the government would not allow if they controlled it.

      A friend of mine back in HS who did not smoke but hung out with us stoners was a great example of why someone would choose not to smoke. It made her hallucinations much worse and coming down was physically hard on her so she didn't smoke but was OK with us that did. We used to say that we had to take chemicals to get what she had naturally! At the end of the day I think that accurate and honest education will help more then banning this plant. It is good when people like us do stop smoking tho and find out who we really are :). I do smoke from time to time but it really is not that important to me and there are things I like much more :D

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      I don't think that everyone should quit, did i say that?. I'm simply informing people whom want to know, what happens when you over use marijuana.

      There's no such thing as a marijuana 'addict', because it doesn't contain any addictive properties. It's only mentally addictive, which doesn't mean a lot, because the mind is strong and can make up it's own decisions, unlike the body.

      Jelousy? Mate don't accuse people of such things when you don't know them from a bar of soap, i don't have a jelous bone in my body.

      I am happy that i don't smoke it now. But i'm not totally against it either, i'm very sure that we will reunite again one day. I mainly quit because i need to focus on my careers.

      There's another good reason why i don't think it should be legalized, i can't say anything about it though..Other than, people STEAL power to fund their indoor growing..And guess what?? The price of power is expected to double within the next 5 years..Well if it was legalized, then more people will be running a bunch of 1000 watt lights at 8-12 hours a day, waste of power if you ask me.

      But then of course on the other hand, if it was legalized, people might grow it outdoors, rather than wasting power, which is limited in a lot of places.

      But i do believe that if it's legalized and accepted socially, then more people will will smoke so freely. That could be a good thing, in regards to war. But the economical system would suffer. Every pot smoker knows that weed lowers your inabitions and zaps you of motivation, hence a lot more people calling in 'sick' to work, a lot more often. Buisnesses going bust..It's a good debate, and i actually do stand on both sides of the fence, although i think the negatives outweigh the positives.

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      johnwindbell 8 years ago from - the land of beards and buggies

      Why is it that addicts, when they quit, (or rather 'nip it in the bud') think everybody should quit whatever caused them problems? Frankly, I think it's jealously. They wish they could use it in moderation.

      Be happy with your sobriety, dude, and abide with everybody else that doesn't see it like you.

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      PB_Smith 8 years ago from Southern California

      I completely appreciate that the focus of this hub is abuse. I guess what I mean to put it another way is that those who want to smoke pot are smoking pot regardless of the laws. Legalizing it would not result in an overnight drastic increase in users, but it would deal a very crippling blow to the criminal element that makes a fortune from it being illegal. That in itself would saves lives and money.

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      Also, this hub focuses on abuse on marijuana, not casual consumption.

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      marcel285 8 years ago from New Zealand

      thanks for your comment. Yess what i was doing was abuse. My partner and i have been stoners for years, hence we have A LOT of stoner mates. This is not pureely based on MY experience, it is a combination of other peoples issues with it that are also implied. This is based on about 30 people whom i know. Not just myself, i did interviews.

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      PB_Smith 8 years ago from Southern California

      A lot of valid points, but one thing you seem to overlook is that it is YOUR experience and it IS NOT indicative of the majority of marijuana users. I know people in both camps, daily smokers and occasional smokers. I personally think that you and your partner have more of a substance abuse issue and marijuana is the substance that you chose to use or rather abuse. Legalization does not equal rampant abuse. You had no problems finding it and abusing it did you, so why would you think that the legal status would make any difference to others who use it? Legalizing it has many more benefits in general than keeping illegal.

      I commend you on coming to terms with abuse and realigning your life, but your situation does not apply to everyone.